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Also remember, teams in the top 5 will want to retain their picks and use on players to get the second round compensation if a bid drops before their pick.

If you want pick 1, you also have to factor in possibly pick 20 as well.

And if we had pick 1, I'd seriously consider trading it for pick 7 and 8 or something like that.
And any future pick trading needs to account for Tasmania’s free picks next year.

A natural pick 10 is more like a late teen pick.

Trading for a top 5 pick this year will be very tough and very expensive.
 
The Biggest Question Marks right now (Butters aside).

Wines - another year older, appears to be labouring, with his usual output way down. Big watch.

Drew - does some good things, but lets himself down badly at times with his suspect decision making & disposal by foot. Leadership position has to be in jeopardy. Where’s our next Insider Mid?

Vis - those alarm bells are beginning to ring louder each week. Can’t question his competitiveness & his tap work is okay, but the rest of his game needs a mountain of work. I really want to believe, but it’s time to look elsewhere.

Marshall - got a 5 year extension on the back of a 40+ goal season. Has dealt with his fair share of injuries, still has 3 years remaining on his contract, but looks cooked to me. Too slow & not physical enough.

Luko - At full fitness he’s a better option than Todd, didn’t come cheap, must persevere & hope he comes good.

Berry - written off way too prematurely by many on this forum, & he’s still nowhere near his full potential. He’ll eventually transition into our midfield rotations & be a very good one at that.

Wehr, Watkins, Liddy, Lorenz, Mead & Brodie - all possess serious flaws in their games which gets them badly exposed at the top level. Signing Wehr to 3 years was a massive blunder, put a line through the rest.
 
The Biggest Question Marks right now (Butters aside).

Wines - another year older, appears to be labouring, with his usual output way down. Big watch.

Drew - does some good things, but lets himself down badly at times with his suspect decision making & disposal by foot. Leadership position has to be in jeopardy. Where’s our next Insider Mid?

Vis - those alarm bells are beginning to ring louder each week. Can’t question his competitiveness & his tap work is okay, but the rest of his game needs a mountain of work. I really want to believe, but it’s time to look elsewhere.

Marshall - got a 5 year extension on the back of a 40+ goal season. Has dealt with his fair share of injuries, still has 3 years remaining on his contract, but looks cooked to me. Too slow & not physical enough.

Luko - At full fitness he’s a better option than Todd, didn’t come cheap, must persevere & hope he comes good.

Berry - written off way too prematurely by many on this forum, & he’s still nowhere near his full potential. He’ll eventually transition into our midfield rotations & be a very good one at that.

Wehr, Watkins, Liddy, Lorenz, Mead & Brodie - all possess serious flaws in their games which gets them badly exposed at the top level. Signing Wehr to 3 years was a massive blunder, put a line through the rest.

Not sure I agree with the idea of Berry being a midfielder - assuming you're referring to an on-baller. He lacks the requisite size for that and doesn't have the body archetype that suggests he will ever grow into being a big unit. His strengths are clearly when he can use his speed and agility in space, and that is somewhat the antithesis of being an on-baller in tight close contested phone booths.

Vis needs to go, he's simply not good enough. The Club are stuck with Marshall for the foreseeable future - should have let him go to Hawthorn when they were offering him roughly a mill per year prior to signing his newest deal. Luko has the talent but I don't think he's got the internal desire to be great. The game has evolved and they simply shouldn't be playing all of Drew, Wines and Watkins in the same side. I think this has been a partial product of JHF being underdone this year, but another possibility is that they move Rozee back into the middle next year, though I'd prefer he stay at half back and be a key figure in their transitional ball movement.

There's a lot of subpar players on the list (and that's putting it nicely). Adding Doug, Pilot and Salopek will help improve the list for sure, but that could very well be offset by losing Butters.

I think that the list is going to require on significant internal improvement as opposed to constantly plugging holes externally, at least in the short term.

Imo, if we look at the current list, I see the following players as who could be clear best 23 players in a flag contending side by 2029:

Backs: Bergman, Evans, Farrell, Jones, Lai, Ratugolea, Ramm, Rozee

Mids: Burgoyne, Butters, JHF, Mackinlay, Moraes

Forwards: Berry, Durdin, Georgiades, Lukosius, SPP, Whitlock

The key being could, not that they will realise their potential, or some could drop off as they get older, and some will inevitably leave for a myriad of reasons. With any development of this kind on such a large scale, it's simply a case of continuing to play the young kids in the coming years to find out who sinks and who swims.
 

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The Biggest Question Marks right now (Butters aside).

Wines - another year older, appears to be labouring, with his usual output way down. Big watch.

Drew - does some good things, but lets himself down badly at times with his suspect decision making & disposal by foot. Leadership position has to be in jeopardy. Where’s our next Insider Mid?

Vis - those alarm bells are beginning to ring louder each week. Can’t question his competitiveness & his tap work is okay, but the rest of his game needs a mountain of work. I really want to believe, but it’s time to
Not sure I agree with the idea of Berry being a midfielder - assuming you're referring to an on-baller. He lacks the requisite size for that and doesn't have the body archetype that suggests he will ever grow into being a big unit. His strengths are clearly when he can use his speed and agility in space, and that is somewhat the antithesis of being an on-baller in tight close contested phone booths.

Vis needs to go, he's simply not good enough. The Club are stuck with Marshall for the foreseeable future - should have let him go to Hawthorn when they were offering him roughly a mill per year prior to signing his newest deal. Luko has the talent but I don't think he's got the internal desire to be great. The game has evolved and they simply shouldn't be playing all of Drew, Wines and Watkins in the same side. I think this has been a partial product of JHF being underdone this year, but another possibility is that they move Rozee back into the middle next year, though I'd prefer he stay at half back and be a key figure in their transitional ball movement.

There's a lot of subpar players on the list (and that's putting it nicely). Adding Doug, Pilot and Salopek will help improve the list for sure, but that could very well be offset by losing Butters.

I think that the list is going to require on significant internal improvement as opposed to constantly plugging holes externally, at least in the short term.

Imo, if we look at the current list, I see the following players as who could be clear best 23 players in a flag contending side by 2029:

Backs: Bergman, Evans, Farrell, Jones, Lai, Ratugolea, Ramm, Rozee

Mids: Burgoyne, Butters, JHF, Mackinlay, Moraes

Forwards: Berry, Durdin, Georgiades, Lukosius, SPP, Whitlock

The key being could, not that they will realise their potential, or some could drop off as they get older, and some will inevitably leave for a myriad of reasons. With any development of this kind on such a large scale, it's simply a case of continuing to play the young kids in the coming years to find out who sinks and who swims.

Berry still has to grow into his body & put on some muscle. At 180cm he’s no giant, but Rankine (179), Zac Bailey (181) & Ablett jr (182) Robbie Gray (183) are all living proof that you don’t necessarily have to be tall to play at a high level in the midfield.

Looking at where our List sits right now, what position do you think we should prioritise first?

For me, it’s a no brainer, we need to find an Elite Ruck as soon as possible. A position I think, is the most underrated in terms of being able influence the momentum of a game. Incredibly, we entered 2004 with all of Primus (injured), Lade & Brogan on our List.

I know Dougie is going to cost us a lot in terms of Draft capital, but I hope Cripps & Parker have another ace up their sleeves in identifying a young quality ruckman to add to our List.
 
Vis - those alarm bells are beginning to ring louder each week. Can’t question his competitiveness & his tap work is okay, but the rest of his game needs a mountain of work. I really want to believe
actually think Vis' biggest question mark is actually his competitiveness...he does a ****tonne of watching and not a lot of doing.
 
The Biggest Question Marks right now (Butters aside).

Wines - another year older, appears to be labouring, with his usual output way down. Big watch.

Drew - does some good things, but lets himself down badly at times with his suspect decision making & disposal by foot. Leadership position has to be in jeopardy. Where’s our next Insider Mid?

Vis - those alarm bells are beginning to ring louder each week. Can’t question his competitiveness & his tap work is okay, but the rest of his game needs a mountain of work. I really want to believe, but it’s time to


Berry still has to grow into his body & put on some muscle. At 180cm he’s no giant, but Rankine (179), Zac Bailey (181) & Ablett jr (182) Robbie Gray (183) are all living proof that you don’t necessarily have to be tall to play at a high level in the midfield.

Looking at where our List sits right now, what position do you think we should prioritise first?

For me, it’s a no brainer, we need to find an Elite Ruck as soon as possible. A position I think, is the most underrated in terms of being able influence the momentum of a game. Incredibly, we entered 2004 with all of Primus (injured), Lade & Brogan on our List.

I know Dougie is going to cost us a lot in terms of Draft capital, but I hope Cripps & Parker have another ace up their sleeves in identifying a young quality ruckman to add to our List.
A young athletic ruck akin to Luke Jackson being hidden in the Barossa Valley League would be nice.
 
Don’t know if anyone has mentioned it but could Charlie Ballard be worth asking the question? Good player but is behind Sam Collins, Mac Andrew and Oscar Adams it seems in the backline for Gold Coast could be a good get.


I’m a fan and we need competent backmen but his form has dropped off since injury and his age profile is wrong for us.



if we could get him for a bargain price based on Gold Coast wanting out of his contract I would be very keen.



Question is which of the Dogs players would Richmond want to downgrade pick 1 to pick 10

None that would be available

Van hattum is a gun, and he’s exactly what Richmond (or dons) need.



We need a quality ruck n its not funny, crickey, id take Witts for a year or two. Sweet is mentally challenged and big Vis doesnt want to improve

We do need a better ruck, might have to patient.

Good news is that 3 Sa rucks are coming ooc and not first 22 at their clubs. One of those (Barnett) doesn’t look much chop, but goad and Dodson are worth looking at. Good age profiles for our list as well:

Then the next two drafts are quite well stocked in high end rucks. Ethan Herbert might even be available to us in this draft ?


And any future pick trading needs to account for Tasmania’s free picks next year.

A natural pick 10 is more like a late teen pick.

Trading for a top 5 pick this year will be very tough and very expensive.


Yep. Top 5 picks are almost impossible to obtain now barring a team trading them out for points , like Carlton and us.

People are missing that when they talk about us being able to match picks and talking about trading up. We can trade down and maximise points that way as well. Teams are going to be keen to move up in the last draft before expansion.

Future picks values are going to be reasonably devalued due to expan picks pushing them back. I would be looking at finals ish calibre teams future 1sts as being close to value to mid second rounders.

Potentially Early firsts should still be rated highly as it’s a pretty decent looking draft at least at this stage.
 
The Biggest Question Marks right now (Butters aside).

Wines - another year older, appears to be labouring, with his usual output way down. Big watch.

Drew - does some good things, but lets himself down badly at times with his suspect decision making & disposal by foot. Leadership position has to be in jeopardy. Where’s our next Insider Mid?

Vis - those alarm bells are beginning to ring louder each week. Can’t question his competitiveness & his tap work is okay, but the rest of his game needs a mountain of work. I really want to believe, but it’s time to


Berry still has to grow into his body & put on some muscle. At 180cm he’s no giant, but Rankine (179), Zac Bailey (181) & Ablett jr (182) Robbie Gray (183) are all living proof that you don’t necessarily have to be tall to play at a high level in the midfield.

Looking at where our List sits right now, what position do you think we should prioritise first?

For me, it’s a no brainer, we need to find an Elite Ruck as soon as possible. A position I think, is the most underrated in terms of being able influence the momentum of a game. Incredibly, we entered 2004 with all of Primus (injured), Lade & Brogan on our List.

I know Dougie is going to cost us a lot in terms of Draft capital, but I hope Cripps & Parker have another ace up their sleeves in identifying a young quality ruckman to add to our List.

The height with Berry isn't an issue, but rather it's his frame. His frame suggests he's always going to be a relatively small player and light on. As for your comparisons - neither Bailey or Rankine play on-ball the majority of games. Ablett and Robbie were extremely strong through their hips and legs. Whilst Berry is young, I don't ever see him building a similar frame to either of those two.

And I don't see it as a negative if he can't play as an on-baller on the regular. If he turns into an elite high half forward who kicks 25 goals a year and has a similar amount of goal assists, that's going to be a very valuable contribution.

I think the team has a general lack of talent across the board, so I don't think they have to "target" a specific area this off-season. But if the talent matches the need, ruck seems the obvious choice as you said. Given the lack of flexibility I suspect the club will have re player acquisition in the next two off seasons, I don't think it's going to be easy to add many top young talents outside of Cochrane, Pilot and Salopek without seeing a few players leave (ie Butters and/or Bergman).
 

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Targets for the off-season.
Zac Bailey
Tom Sparrow
Kade Chandler
Alex Dodson
 

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