Where's the rebuttal or counter-argument? Where's the cognisance?
Rant again, with no substance other than the ironic use of personal abuse.
Strawman stuff.
Personal freedom or libertarianism is a myth, as is democracy.
Both are unrealistic notions of idealism. They just provide the compass...
In a tearful interview today, a distraught mother Polwarth-Merino cross related how images of her 4 month old lamb was cynically used to promote the gun lobby cause.
"I can't understand how they could fleece such a dewy-eyed darling like my Lambkins." she bleated. "I'd like to ram that gun up...
Keep going.
They've got you now. The Gun Lobby mind controllers now own the sheepdog. Get around back!
May as well mingle with the flock, let loose the old rhetoric and sow the fear factor with wild conspiracy theories. They'll believe anything, you know. As long as it's scary.
This allays the...
Wow!
Chill out, baby!
Obviously struck a nerve.
You ran out of rational argument after your first post, so you've resorted to the old 'I'll just abuse the bastard out of the argument' routine. You actually give a pretty good description of yourself in this post!
Rant. Rant. Rant.
Nurse...
At the end of the day, I don't care about your 'rights' to own a weapon that intimidates and threatens my children or me. It is a simple case of the collective or the cult of the individual.
It is not your 'right' to dictate the level of emotional comfort I can afford my family because you have...
Where do you get this bull****?
Show me the figures to back up your fantasy claim. It is obviously just a perception that you have internalised into a 'fact'. Trouble is, your 'facts' are at odds with the real facts.
This has been the hallmark of your posts. Blurting out hyperbole as though it...
Nonsense again! Hypocrisy again!
1. Pls check your own belittling comments. Offered in the stead of any substantive argument. Hyperbole, bullying and abuse.
2. We CAN'T impose our opinions and haven't done so any more than yourself and H2B.
3. We haven't imposed our will on the U.S., just given...
Typical.
And logical, reasoned and downright intelligent!
Which is decisively rebutted(?) with.....
...which is such a cogent set of counter-arguments that we should withdraw in shame?!! :rolleyes:
Really, your comment about your opponents is no argument at all. It just comes across like the...
What arrant nonsense!!
We made our country safer by removing guns, not piling more into the social environment!!
By arming yourself, you are surrendering to fear.
Taking up a weapon is the ultimate expression of fear; else, why take up a gun?
Then, when you have a gun, everyone around you...
Get rid of the guns, then the need for armed guards (thugs) is out of the question.
Do we have armed guards in our schools in Oz, U.K., France, Germany, Sweden, Italy, Hungary, India, etc?
Do they have a history of children being butchered by armed gunmen?
Do they have a high gun ownership or...
There is something missing in this logic.
It appears that we need to have guns to protect us from people who have guns.
Guns therefore are their own justification.
Insane!
Why not get rid of guns so that we have no need for them? Armed guards in schools, FFS! How insane is that!??
Someone even...
A couple of points that need consideration:
1. Gun ownership is more than just the mortality count. Gun ownership is about power and fear. Despite the cry that it is for security, it is precisely the opposite. You own a gun because you have fear. Or you want power. Either way, the issue is the...
That all agrees with my experience, although I do share GG's fear of what may emerge in the stead of America.
The decline of Great Britain and rise of the U.S. are simultaneous and synergistic.
In both World Wars, the U.S. held back for over 2 years, and built the foundation of its...
Apols.
I responded to your specific homicide question in the first instance, but it was H2B's posts that I had been referencing in the latter part of the post.
Not quite.
It was raised about deaths caused by guns. You can try to keep it to the confines of your comfort zone.
Just like the original graphic you trumpeted as being from reliable sources. READ your data, analyse it first, then propose supporting argument rather than just rabidly sticking it...
Laws are enforced by a number of means. Social pressure, goodwill, fines, imprisonment, etc. In Australia, the gun is the instrument of last resort. Please do away with the melodramatic nonsense.
A truly civilised society originates from a number of premises. Your definition is simplistic and...
????
Gun-related deaths. ANY death with a gun involved as the instrument of death - homicide, accident, suicide. Why just homicides? Mexico may have a higher homicide rate, but we aren't being that specific - and why should we? Mexico is hardly a stable and developed country. Not really...
No. More that the type of mentality that pervades some parts of the U.S. can easily become a norm.
I do have friends there. Some of the Utah Republican/redneck variety, some of the Vermont intelligentsia. Happy to keep them alive, safe and feeling secure.
Wow!
And all this from just ONE post...
Maybe you should ask H2B.
He is the one who seems obsessed with guns.
However, the U.S. is highly influential in our thinking. Witness H2B who seems to mimic the mentality of the American Mid West. It concerns me that we have people like that in Australia - taking their lead from the U.S...
Any weapon, maybe. A weapon can be anything that is used as to inflict death or injury.
A box cutter can be a weapon.
Box cutter deaths are ???
However, only guns are designed from the outset as a weapon to kill (bows, spears and swords are more likely to maim because they are far less...
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