0-10 versus bottom 4 sides in the last 3 years

[Buckemenico]

Yes that is right. Whenever we have lined up against anyone in the bottom 4 in that time - we have lost.

Meanwhile , we have beaten or drawn with Melbourne, Geelong, Bulldogs, Port (all of last years's prelim finalists), plus Brisbane, Richmond, Sydney - all in the last 20 games or so.

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

That’s stat is not entirely true.

Will beaten North and Crows in the last two years.

 

[Simon Crawshay]

Although this stat is probably not entirely true it still alarming non the less.

To me it speaks about the mental fragilty of the team (especially the senior players) and inability to cope with expectations.

 

[eldorado]

That’s stat is not entirely true.

Will beaten North and Crows in the last two years.

Was that in round one, when there were no ladder positions?

 

[H00t]

We also beat the 15th placed pies last year to put them in the bottom 4.

Crows were in the 8 when we beat them, then they crashed.

Still it does showcase what people have witnessed. It’s that we can push the good teams but play our worst against the worse teams.

Hopefully Mitchell’s new gameplan can turn it around for us.

 

[hawkman]

Lucky we played North and Port when we did and not a couple of weeks later

 

[lyger]

Augurs well for Richmond and Brisbane games coming up.

 

[Judd2Sewell]

If we are one of the bottom four teams that means that there will be one less bottom four team to lose to.

Work smarter and all that.

 

[cryptor]

This is just an oddity of who we've played and when.

 

[hawkman]

This is just an oddity of who we've played and when.

A little bit but we have also lost to a winless Adelaide and North in the last 2 years

 

[Jables]

Man we've been bottom 4 late in the season the past few years in a row, bottom 5 last season because of a few late wins, what difference does it make? Playing ourselves would help.

Looking objectively at recent seasons, despite being top 4 in 2018, it's quite obvious the club already knew it had to focus on developing young players, the rate we've been developing them is decent and performances against the recent bottom 4 is not how we should measure ourselves, not to excuse all our mistakes.

These are the moments it was obvious guys were being forced to develop in the best 22, year of recruitment and total games that year is relatively unimportant, which is why circumstances like Nash playing 14 games in 2019 is omitted, these are more experiments

2016 - Tim O'Brien

22

Tim O'brien

Age

30

Ht

193cm

Wt

92kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

10.1

3star

K

6.7

3star

HB

3.4

3star

M

3.6

4star

T

1.9

4star

MG

163.8

3star

D

5.9

1star

K

4.4

2star

HB

1.4

1star

M

2.6

3star

T

2.1

3star

MG

119.4

2star

D

7.2

2star

K

3.6

2star

HB

3.6

3star

M

2.2

3star

T

2.8

5star

MG

307.0

5star

, James Sicily

6

James Sicily

Age

29

Ht

188cm

Wt

90kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

18.3

5star

K

12.7

5star

HB

5.7

4star

M

6.3

5star

T

1.5

3star

MG

365.0

5star

D

19.4

4star

K

14.3

5star

HB

5.1

3star

M

5.9

5star

T

1.0

2star

MG

437.4

5star

D

10.0

3star

K

6.0

3star

HB

4.0

3star

M

4.2

4star

T

2.0

4star

MG

173.8

3star

2017 - Burton (traded for 25yo star), Howe
2018 - Morrison (sidelined once we traded for Chad/Scully next year, but clearly fasttracked) , Hardwick
2019 - Worpel, arguably Lewis
2020 - Scrimshaw, Day (unfortunate injuries aside it's obvious he always gets into the team whenever fit)
2021 - Moore, Jiath, arguably Koschitzke
2022 so far (too early to say) - Newcombe, probably a couple more mids by the end of the year.

Tough pill to swallow but the rebuild didn't even come close to starting this or last year and we have clearly been trying to develop what talent we have.

 

[HODGEYROAD]

Absolutely remarkable stat this one.