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MS35 said:
Tough one. With 15 runs to get, I was really happy with Swann and Peterson. I was thinking that if Swann stood in front of peterson with his head really close, I could hit him hard and have his head smack Petersons face. Maybe Swann a bit short for that to happen!
So to answer, I would hit peterson.
My question is if you had peterson and tom waterhouse, who would you hit?

Yep, 5th position is up for grabs.
Just looking ahead, i think Warby might end up with 4th and Belgrave will scrape in with 5th.
Warby will end up a game clear in 4th and Belgrave will lose a couple but still make it.
Emerald will battle due to % so really need to win one extra to cover.
Olinda still have Upwey(home), Wandin (away), Warby (away) and Gembrook (away) - all tough games.
Olinda had to beat Mt Evelyn, keep an eye on mt evelyn. If they can apply the same pressure that they did against Olinda on Saturday, they could be a real pain for a few sides in the last few rounds. They showed the same desperation and discipline in round 1 and knocked of wandin. It's a hard way to play football and takes a lot out of the players but on the smaller grounds, they are very dangerous.
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Good answer about hitting Swann with his head going into Pietersen. I'd hit Pietersen any day of the week over Tom Waterhouse, and Swann too for that matter. I don't watch a lot of free to air television, so I don't really have a problem with Tom Waterhouse. I read somewhere that Tom is about to sell his bookmaking business for a gazillion dollars, so good luck to him if he does. Kevin Pietersen is only concerned about one thing; and that's Kevin Pietersen. He really lost me when he was playing for England and sending texts to the opposition about his captain.

I think you've given a pretty good summary on who'll finish fifth. What about the other end of the ladder? Any chance for Monbulk to avoid relegation if they can get over Gembrook next round?
 
Pretty tough road for Monbulk.
Gembrook have the toughest run home with Upwey and Wandin but in reality, Monbulk needs to win 2 more games than Gembrook and Emerald.
They have 2 games that are 8 pointers vs Gembrook and Emerald. They have to target these 2 games, If it was me, I would rest Wragg and Juice to get them up for these 2 games.
All 3 teams are no certainty to win any games except for the fact that they play each other with Monny playing both these sides. The % factor for Monny is the worry with 75% and the other 2 being over 90%.
Mt evelyn beating olinda was a nail in the coffin as far as I could see, if the bottom 3 teams don't throw the kitchen sink at avoiding relegation, who knows what could happen. Emerald vs Monbulk last round could be an absolute cracker if Monbulk can catch a week up!
The last point on Monbulk is L Mac being available. Probably the most important player for them, if he can get out on the paddock, they are a much better side. Would need to check TAC cup draw for that.
 

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no easy games or dead rubbers for anyone. Wandin and Upwey battling for top spot Woori yet to lock in a double chance all other team can play finals and or be relegated.
Top 5 will be
Upwey
Wandin
Woori
Belgrave
Warburton

Monbulk to go down with 4 wins

Peterson gets punched first although if he fell into broad I'd be ok with that.
 
The Finger said:
Gets said nearly every year. Healesvilles side last year was a good side plus their reserves won the flag.
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Agree -, I think H/Ville were the best side to have been relegated.
unlucky for the sides who are or thought they were serious contenders in Div 2 this year.
 
What makes the Healesville relagtion look even more unlucky is their dominance in div 2 this year.
Normally a club on the way down takes 12 -24 months to re group.
Is this a reflection of how good Healesville are or how big the gap has become between Div 1 and Div 2?

If Monbulk can turn 3 wins into 6 wins over the next 5 weeks it will make it real interesting as Monbulk have Wandin and Upwey out of the way already this is not out of the question.
 
RIP Tony S said:
What makes the Healesville relagtion look even more unlucky is their dominance in div 2 this year.
Normally a club on the way down takes 12 -24 months to re group.
Is this a reflection of how good Healesville are or how big the gap has become between Div 1 and Div 2?

If Monbulk can turn 3 wins into 6 wins over the next 5 weeks it will make it real interesting as Monbulk have Wandin and Upwey out of the way already this is not out of the question.
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Its happened a lot in the last few years a team being relegated and dominating the 2nd Division.
 
I can't see monbulk dominating like hville have should they go down, with the poor reserves and no 18s along with their ageing list, it might be a bit tougher for the hawks
 

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RIP Tony S said:
What makes the Healesville relagtion look even more unlucky is their dominance in div 2 this year.
Normally a club on the way down takes 12 -24 months to re group.
Is this a reflection of how good Healesville are or how big the gap has become between Div 1 and Div 2?

If Monbulk can turn 3 wins into 6 wins over the next 5 weeks it will make it real interesting as Monbulk have Wandin and Upwey out of the way already this is not out of the question.
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As an ex player at H'Ville it was disappointing to see us relegated, pretty impressed with how the club has remained internally strong. (very unusual indeed)
Question has anyone ever given any thought to a single combined Div 1? One game against each opponent - top 8 finals series and potentially a bottom 8 finals series - cash incentives for those finishing in the top 8 or something. A someone said earlier the gap has just got bigger and bigger from what i have witnessed over the past 8 years.
 
Division 1 is strong, even and really entertaining. Not sure you want to mess with that however I agree something needs to be done to bridge the gap soon. The key is juniors and U18's once they sort this problem out then you will find everything else will fall in line.
Either way it wont be an easy fix but it gives us plenty to talk about in the meantime...
 
Warby Hwy said:
And in 5 seasons time they could also dominate the vets..... How would that be at all good for the club in a return to 1st division? Your points are rediculous Finger!
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They both qualify for vets now I think! Not the guys you want to be building your future on the back of. Been fantastic servants but the end of the road is near for these two guys...
 
The Finger said:
Whats your point? Both would dominate 2nd Division if they played next year.
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I think cheap wine beat me to it sorry Finger. How could you possibly not be able to work out a club that is relagated from 1st division with there reserves struggling, no U/18 side and a host of older players benifit from to great players of the last 15 years going down and dominating 2nd division?? Any club that has not been able to field U/18's would tell you how bloody hard it is to rebuild that club when it bottoms out such as Monbulk this year! You wank on about Woori and the way they go about it all the time so surely you could work it out.
 

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Warby Hwy said:
I think cheap wine beat me to it sorry Finger. How could you possibly not be able to work out a club that is relagated from 1st division with there reserves struggling, no U/18 side and a host of older players benifit from to great players of the last 15 years going down and dominating 2nd division?? Any club that has not been able to field U/18's would tell you how bloody hard it is to rebuild that club when it bottoms out such as Monbulk this year! You wank on about Woori and the way they go about it all the time so surely you could work it out.
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What has that got to do with Wragg and Juice not dominating 2nd division if they went down? What happens after that is anyones guess. Maybe theyll recruit heavily who knows. My point was and is that both of those players would domianate.
 
The Finger said:
What has that got to do with Wragg and Juice not dominating 2nd division if they went down? What happens after that is anyones guess. Maybe theyll recruit heavily who knows. My point was and is that both of those players would domianate.
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Nah ya dead right again Finger!!! You've gone out on a limb and predicted 2 players who still perform at exceptional level in 1st division would go down and dominate 2nd division. There's no doubt about ya mate such an astute judge fella. Do ya reckon you'll get your cricket forum going again this year or have ya packed the pads away Mr YVCA?
 
Healesville are the strongest side Ive seen. The year warby dominated would be close, but I think the overall standard in 2nd div is better these days. Seville's side is the strongest its been since we won it in 2003 and I still think healesville's a 5 or 6 goal better side at the moment.

Don't think Monbulk would be as strong as they don't have the same amount of depth. You could ague that they have players that would dominate, but there's been plenty of high quality players that have dominated over the years in sides that haven't won flags.
 
RIP Tony S said:
Not sure their dominance would be what it once was. Age catches up with all of us no matter what division you play in
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Monbulks coach would dominate second divvy surely? ...If he is still coaching them next season?! Shannon Coole is another who is a gun- he would be a force in second divvy.
 

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