AFL Player 12: Will Setterfield - not injured - 21/4

[Beerfish]

Contract Status: Out of contract 2024?
2024 My Boy Draft: Pick 17, mcgrath_truther

 

[Foxx]

the three first tackle should of been ball. Rubbish call

Only Ward had prior imo.

 

[Zach Package]

Prior goes out the window if you chuck it, doesn’t it?

I would argue they were all incorrect disposal, having not been knocked out in the tackles.

 

[Chief Hopper]

Seeing Setterfields tackles going un rewarded in that GWS game goes to show
1. Poor umpiring combined with our own poor kicking at goal kept the game a lot closer than it should have been
2. Setterfield tackling is something our midfield has been sorely missing, especially so against the bigger players

Re that news article about Setterrfield being a steal. I think it's more that our midfield has been under performing and dysfunctional for a while. It was crying out for a big bodied mid.
For all the talent of Merret, Parish, Shiel and Caldwell, we hadn't progressed as much as I'd think we should have.

 

[citizen-erased]

Seeing Setterfields tackles going un rewarded in that GWS game goes to show
1. Poor umpiring combined with our own poor kicking at goal kept the game a lot closer than it should have been
2. Setterfield tackling is something our midfield has been sorely missing, especially so against the bigger players

Re that news article about Setterrfield being a steal. I think it's more that our midfield has been under performing and dysfunctional for a while. It was crying out for a big bodied mid.
For all the talent of Merret, Parish, Shiel and Caldwell, we hadn't progressed as much as I'd think we should have.

was also a bit of a case of round peg, round hole for once too.

Setterfield needed a team who needed an inside mid
We needed an inside mid with his profile.

Stars aligned on this one imo

 

[ant555]

Prior goes out the window if you chuck it, doesn’t it?

I would argue they were all incorrect disposal, having not been knocked out in the tackles.

It does but there is also a grey area of the ball being allowed to spill out if there is no prior opportunity. It is this decision that certainly riles up the supporters. To the letter of the law they will clear this one but for 99.9% of us it should be a free kick even though there was no prior.

 

[Old Campaigner]

My controversial opinion is that the umpires should simply stop being so shit

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

Well not to toot my own horn but I'd say I was pretty spot on with Setters, still reckon he has another few kgs to add to his frame to get the absolute best out of himself playing on ball but a big improvement from the cheesestick wing version we turned him into at the Blues.

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Good to see him playing well.

 

[Bjchan13]

Well not to toot my own horn but I'd say I was pretty spot on with Setters, still reckon he has another few kgs to add to his frame to get the absolute best out of himself playing on ball but a big improvement from the cheesestick wing version we turned him into at the Blues.

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Good to see him playing well.

I dont think he needs to add weight. He's big enough already and was when he was at Carlton too which he proved when actually played inside/defensive mid late last year. Wing was never going to work with him but Carlton trying to turn him into a wingman probably improved his running which helps him work from contest to contest as a mid.

 

[Vander18]

Well not to toot my own horn but I'd say I was pretty spot on with Setters, still reckon he has another few kgs to add to his frame to get the absolute best out of himself playing on ball but a big improvement from the cheesestick wing version we turned him into at the Blues.

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Good to see him playing well.

Good take.

As you say, think he could easily add 3-4 kg without it hurting his running.

 

[faible]

Good take.

As you say, think he could easily add 3-4 kg without it hurting his running.

Not every frame carries the weight well, I've long had a theory that the extra weight Fyfe carries is why he breaks down so often. Hird was similar and ultimately stripped weight off from memory.

Dangerfield meanwhile is built like a tank and comfortably carries weight.

 

[Dan26]

I like this stat:

 

[fairbump_playon]

I like this stat:

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Gee with those tackle numbers you could almost say that Will Setterfield is an upgrade on Devon Smith.

Not that there's anything wrong with midget midfields of course.

 

[astrowizzle]

HTB went on holiday over the weekend
The saturday night games were terribly umpired

Holding the ball went on holiday for one team

 

[citizen-erased]

Holding the ball went on holiday for one team

Nah. It was non existent in the saturday night games

 

[Cup_o_Jobe]

It does but there is also a grey area of the ball being allowed to spill out if there is no prior opportunity. It is this decision that certainly riles up the supporters. To the letter of the law they will clear this one but for 99.9% of us it should be a free kick even though there was no prior.

Spot on here.

Looking at some of the tackles last week in particular, II always try to distinguish between the ball getting knocked out as part of the tackling action (where, if no prior, I can live with there being no free kick), and where the player getting tackled feels the contact and then decides to simply drop the ball/let go of it. The latter case always "feels" like it should be an incorrect disposal/HTB free, but is treated no differently to the former case, where as long as there is no prior, the umps just let the game roll.

Those ones always frustrate the hell out of me, but to be fair, it is probably easy to see the difference in the telecast but would be be pretty rough trying to tell the difference between the two in real time, so might need to chalk it up to "don't make the hardest game to officiate any harder" category.

 

[Bipolar Bear]

I like this stat:

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Anything under 3 a game seems a bad stat, apart from for Draper. Those are elite numbers for a ruck.
Remember how good Ryder was at chase down tackles?

 

[eth-dog]

Anything under 3 a game seems a bad stat, apart from for Draper. Those are elite numbers for a ruck.
Remember how good Ryder was at chase down tackles?

Defenders don't really tackle that much.

 

[Bipolar Bear]

Defenders don't really tackle that much.

Yeah, I guess things have changed since my days in that regard.

 

[bombreys]

Don Massimo

Insane that the third one is not Will's free.

Whoever he tackled literally had one hand free and threw the ball up in the air with it. The ball didn't spill out, he threw it. Madness.

 

[donlav99]

Insane that the third one is not Will's free.

Whoever he tackled literally had one hand free and threw the ball up in the air with it. The ball didn't spill out, he threw it. Madness.

i'm no rules aficionado, but i think the rule is "we don't give a fk how the ball comes out, as long as we don't have a stoppage". I might be paraphrasing

 

[ghostdog]

i'm no rules aficionado, but i think the rule is "we don't give a fk how the ball comes out, as long as we don't have a stoppage". I might be paraphrasing

I think it's in the Fox Sports Rules section of the rule book.

 

[astrowizzle]

i dont care if they play those rules as long as ALL teams benefit from it

 

[joey_jo_jo]

i dont care if they play those rules as long as ALL teams benefit from it

Nah I hate it, reward good tackles.
See too many throws/ball drops let go too because the afl is so focussed on avoiding stoppages.

 

[eth-dog]

Nah I hate it, reward good tackles.
See too many throws/ball drops let go too because the afl is so focussed on avoiding stoppages.

I hate the idea that you need to "reward" the tackler unless the player tackled had prior or illegally disposed of it. The reward for a good tackle is a stoppage

 

[Here_we_come]

Has been huge this year and so far is proving himself to be a great pick up and a real bargain.

10 tackles today in a tough wet weather slog, great effort.