Delisted 13. Liam Stocker

[Blue__Balls]

I hope I'm not talking of turn and this may be too much information for lots of readers on here, however my day to day profession involves the analysis, extrapolation and subsequent management of performance data for young athletes (with a particular focus on those that have a genetic ACE I/D polymorphism and the resulting influence on their athletic performance under optimal training environments). I’m currently doing this work for a PAC 12 College in the US looking at the heritability (be that aerobic, body morphology, muscular power/strength) within athletes – notably basketballers and American football players.

I've had a quick scan at Liam's VO2max scores (provided to me by Tom Morris) that he completed in April at the VIS and I don't think his endurance is as bleak as people are making it out to be. He still tested in the above average range for his age group and his somatotype. Looking at his body type and running gait I don't beleive he will ever be within the top range for his age group (>60) but Im sure under Russells system he can build up and run out whole games.

 

[Macca43]

FWIW Raynor ran a 7.57 2km time trial last year Walsh ran a 6.07 this year - they both went pick 1.

 

[Macca43]

Cripps is still a bad runner, by times.

But he plays whole games out no trouble.

Because his tank is huge but his top speed is low.

Stocker a different type, needs to be build for repeat efforts

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The Beep test doesn't measure top speed, it measures you tank - Cripps has built his tank (like Oliver has) I see no reason why Stocker won't do the same.

 

[HavUEvaSeenTheRain]

I hope I'm not talking of turn and this may be too much information for lots of readers on here, however my day to day profession involves the analysis, extrapolation and subsequent management of performance data for young athletes (with a particular focus on those that have a genetic ACE I/D polymorphism and the resulting influence on their athletic performance under optimal training environments). I’m currently doing this work for a PAC 12 College in the US looking at the heritability (be that aerobic, body morphology, muscular power/strength) within athletes – notably basketballers and American football players.

I've had a quick scan at Liam's VO2max scores (provided to me by Tom Morris) that he completed in April at the VIS and I don't think his endurance is as bleak as people are making it out to be. He still tested in the above average range for his age group and his somatotype. Looking at his body type and running gait I don't beleive he will ever be within the top range for his age group (>60) but Im sure under Russells system he can build up and run out whole games.

Thanks mate just one question. When you say above average for his age group does that mean just the general public and not athletes?
If so how do you think he would rate compared to the average kid pushing for a professional AFL career?

 

[MITSUHIRATO]

Thanks mate just one question. When you say above average for his age group does that mean just the general public and not athletes?
If so how do you think he would rate compared to the average kid pushing for a professional AFL career?

There are two separate categories for comparison:

1. VO2max score vs. age group (18-25 years) [which is used to compare against the general public within his age group]

2. VO2max score vs age group and somatotype (body type) [which is what would be used to compare against fellow mesomorphs within his age group and the best comparison used for testing against other draftees]

He tested above average for both criteria back in April.

 

[teagueyubeauty]

I hope I'm not talking of turn and this may be too much information for lots of readers on here, however my day to day profession involves the analysis, extrapolation and subsequent management of performance data for young athletes (with a particular focus on those that have a genetic ACE I/D polymorphism and the resulting influence on their athletic performance under optimal training environments). I’m currently doing this work for a PAC 12 College in the US looking at the heritability (be that aerobic, body morphology, muscular power/strength) within athletes – notably basketballers and American football players.

I've had a quick scan at Liam's VO2max scores (provided to me by Tom Morris) that he completed in April at the VIS and I don't think his endurance is as bleak as people are making it out to be. He still tested in the above average range for his age group and his somatotype. Looking at his body type and running gait I don't beleive he will ever be within the top range for his age group (>60) but Im sure under Russells system he can build up and run out whole games.

Sounds like you need a job at Carlton!!

 

[windows1]

There are two separate categories for comparison:

1. VO2max score vs. age group (18-25 years) [which is used to compare against the general public within his age group]

2. VO2max score vs age group and somatotype (body type) [which is what would be used to compare against fellow mesomorphs within his age group and the best comparison used for testing against other draftees]

He tested above average for both criteria back in April.

I’d say he’s also improved since then. He’s completed a post season endurance training block and his 2km time is down to 6’57”. Not amazing but good enough.

 

[ferrisb]

12, 46, steamed rice, lychees & ice-cream - I'm fluent............

ricist!

 

[BlueTang]

I hope I'm not talking of turn and this may be too much information for lots of readers on here, however my day to day profession involves the analysis, extrapolation and subsequent management of performance data for young athletes (with a particular focus on those that have a genetic ACE I/D polymorphism and the resulting influence on their athletic performance under optimal training environments). I’m currently doing this work for a PAC 12 College in the US looking at the heritability (be that aerobic, body morphology, muscular power/strength) within athletes – notably basketballers and American football players.

I've had a quick scan at Liam's VO2max scores (provided to me by Tom Morris) that he completed in April at the VIS and I don't think his endurance is as bleak as people are making it out to be. He still tested in the above average range for his age group and his somatotype. Looking at his body type and running gait I don't beleive he will ever be within the top range for his age group (>60) but Im sure under Russells system he can build up and run out whole games.

I think you are pulling our leg here, and it was a brilliant well wrote post! Well done!

 

[Nori]

Sounds like you need a job at Carlton!!

Yes, but he would need to change his message, i.e. fitness levels are bleak, Stocker needs to work is butt off to improve etc.

 

[zeeCFC]

Why are people discussing ‘we rated him at 6 dribble’. That’s just marketing spiel to get fans excited. Who knows what the real number was and who cares. A blue now and will be an absolute jet. SOS knows how to find talent, we should just be excited to see what the kid can produce.
Regarding fitness, I think Richmond were just trying to play a little hard to get ‘where the destination club’. Other recruiters might be sucking up to you, however, we are a successful group. ‘You need to improve x y z to make it with us’... that would make most people more keen to get there and make it, all IMO, might be completely wrong

It's true

 

[HavUEvaSeenTheRain]

There are two separate categories for comparison:

1. VO2max score vs. age group (18-25 years) [which is used to compare against the general public within his age group]

2. VO2max score vs age group and somatotype (body type) [which is what would be used to compare against fellow mesomorphs within his age group and the best comparison used for testing against other draftees]

He tested above average for both criteria back in April.

But does that even tell us anything if you are just comparing them to the average Joe?
Surely only comparing him to other draftees is all that matters considering probably 99% of kids who are looking to be drafted are better then average athletes. He will most likely be competing against kids who are in the top 15 to 20% at least not the average person

 

[gardiner stand]

I hope I'm not talking of turn and this may be too much information for lots of readers on here, however my day to day profession involves the analysis, extrapolation and subsequent management of performance data for young athletes (with a particular focus on those that have a genetic ACE I/D polymorphism and the resulting influence on their athletic performance under optimal training environments). I’m currently doing this work for a PAC 12 College in the US looking at the heritability (be that aerobic, body morphology, muscular power/strength) within athletes – notably basketballers and American football players.

I've had a quick scan at Liam's VO2max scores (provided to me by Tom Morris) that he completed in April at the VIS and I don't think his endurance is as bleak as people are making it out to be. He still tested in the above average range for his age group and his somatotype. Looking at his body type and running gait I don't beleive he will ever be within the top range for his age group (>60) but Im sure under Russells system he can build up and run out whole games.

Good ...I think....to many big words for my brain size

 

[thylacine60]

I hope I'm not talking of turn and this may be too much information for lots of readers on here, however my day to day profession involves the analysis, extrapolation and subsequent management of performance data for young athletes (with a particular focus on those that have a genetic ACE I/D polymorphism and the resulting influence on their athletic performance under optimal training environments). I’m currently doing this work for a PAC 12 College in the US looking at the heritability (be that aerobic, body morphology, muscular power/strength) within athletes – notably basketballers and American football players.

I've had a quick scan at Liam's VO2max scores (provided to me by Tom Morris) that he completed in April at the VIS and I don't think his endurance is as bleak as people are making it out to be. He still tested in the above average range for his age group and his somatotype. Looking at his body type and running gait I don't beleive he will ever be within the top range for his age group (>60) but Im sure under Russells system he can build up and run out whole games.

footy

 

[RAPPA]

Let the kid get onto the park and get accustomed to AFL football before judgments are made about his fitness levels

 

[NewDarkNavyBlues]

SOS rates fitness and running capacity pretty highly so I'm not concerned about Liam's endurance, particularly given he has been injured for much of the year. He has a good mature head on his shoulders and a will to improve. That's the key here. Someone like a Pickett may not just have that work ethic or desparation.

Relax people. Pour yourselves a wine!

 

[gardiner stand]

I wonder if Diesel would get drafted in this day and age. Imo it’s all BS like all the champion data tripe. Let me watch em play I’ll tell you if they’re footballers. Bet you Kerridge would blow the computer up and test elite of the elite but you watch him and after 5 minutes you know if he’s elite.

 

[Doro]

I wonder if Diesel would get drafted in this day and age. Imo it’s all BS like all the champion data tripe. Let me watch em play I’ll tell you if they’re footballers. Bet you Kerridge would blow the computer up and test elite of the elite but you watch him and after 5 minutes you know if he’s elite.

It would be interesting to see the Diesel draft combine results. He wouldn't shine, maybe reaction time and kicking. Would probably drop into the 20s for the lucky punter.

 

[gardiner stand]

It would be interesting to see the Diesel draft combine results. He wouldn't shine, maybe reaction time and kicking. Would probably drop into the 20s for the lucky punter.

No combines in those days just lots of eyes on you.

 

[gardiner stand]

SOS rates fitness and running capacity pretty highly so I'm not concerned about Liam's endurance, particularly given he has been injured for much of the year. He has a good mature head on his shoulders and a will to improve. That's the key here. Someone like a Pickett may not just have that work ethic or desparation.

Relax people. Pour yourselves a wine!

Didn’t Cripps come last in the 2km time trial time in his year? Hard work,attitude and desire can fix anything

 

[Opine]

I hope I'm not talking of turn and this may be too much information for lots of readers on here, however my day to day profession involves the analysis, extrapolation and subsequent management of performance data for young athletes (with a particular focus on those that have a genetic ACE I/D polymorphism and the resulting influence on their athletic performance under optimal training environments). I’m currently doing this work for a PAC 12 College in the US looking at the heritability (be that aerobic, body morphology, muscular power/strength) within athletes – notably basketballers and American football players.

I've had a quick scan at Liam's VO2max scores (provided to me by Tom Morris) that he completed in April at the VIS and I don't think his endurance is as bleak as people are making it out to be. He still tested in the above average range for his age group and his somatotype. Looking at his body type and running gait I don't beleive he will ever be within the top range for his age group (>60) but Im sure under Russells system he can build up and run out whole games.

You have an awesomely interesting day job. Love this stuff.

 

[Doro]

No combines in those days just lots of eyes on you.

Yeah, I remember the noise about Diesel from the Bendigo league as a kid- the whole town knew he was special, but didn't have the leg speed to impress in his trials with Parkin first time around. 1 game in to his Geelong career and the regrets began.

 

[Juddernaut08]

Didn’t Cripps come last in the 2km time trial time in his year? Hard work,attitude and desire can fix anything

And Juddy as mentor / inspiration!!!! I love Judd

 

[Juddernaut08]

SOS rates fitness and running capacity pretty highly so I'm not concerned about Liam's endurance, particularly given he has been injured for much of the year. He has a good mature head on his shoulders and a will to improve. That's the key here. Someone like a Pickett may not just have that work ethic or desparation.

Relax people. Pour yourselves a wine!

Having a glass of red right now!

 

[HARKER]

SOS rates fitness and running capacity pretty highly so I'm not concerned about Liam's endurance, particularly given he has been injured for much of the year. He has a good mature head on his shoulders and a will to improve. That's the key here. Someone like a Pickett may not just have that work ethic or desparation.
Relax people. Pour yourselves a wine!

That's just great being smart and all that but why did you care to omit the most important part?...........exactly what wine should we be pouring?