Player Watch #16 Josh Smillie - Updated TBC

[captain cotch 9]

I think he will get named in the extended squad but then he will only be an emergancy.

 

[blaisee]

Expect him to make his debut this week

 

[Muddiemoose]

Expect him to make his debut this week

I dunno think he still needs to show a little more at vfl level

Think he will be named in the extended squad tonight but cut tomorrow night when the playing side is announced

 

[Truetiger]

Expect him to make his debut this week

It’s most likely the WC or North game. We need to see more VFL games first. See what happens.

 

[Mr Magic]

Have you watched him play? He's a good kick of the footy. Seems like you've put a whole bunch of words together and said nothing.

yeah I have


When did I say he was not a good kick??

reads like word lettuce from you....

 

[Mr Magic]

I am actually talking Smillie up, if you think I am insulting him you must be poor at ratings and one of those that think the Brownlow is the most important individual medal of the year

 

[Drunken Wookie]

Expect him to make his debut this week

no phone call

 

[THE_GUN]

I dunno think he still needs to show a little more at vfl level

Think he will be named in the extended squad tonight but cut tomorrow night when the playing side is announced

Agreed
Needs to play a full game in the VFL and show he has the fitness to complete the game and perform well
Next Week against the eagles would be my preference after a good game against the Box Hill dawks this week

 

[TheDyerLegacy]

I am actually talking Smillie up, if you think I am insulting him you must be poor at ratings and one of those that think the Brownlow is the most important individual medal of the year

More so around the idea of him playing as a KPP. Basing it on his height? I understand the idea of adding strings to his bow, but as development, his focus should be on his midfield craft, especially building up his running.

Or are you keen on a Sonsie 2.0?

 

[Mr Magic]

More so around the idea of him playing as a KPP. Basing it on his height? I understand the idea of adding strings to his bow, but as development, his focus should be on his midfield craft, especially building up his running.

Or are you keen on a Sonsie 2.0?

KPP are more important than midfielders so by labelling Smillie a midfielder you are insulting him.

I think Smillie is a unicorn. He could be many things. He may not be a KPP, but he may be, I am not putting limits on him.

The point is Smillie has played in his youth as a bigger kid and done this and that. Size would have played a role. Now he is in the professional version where players are a lot better and more competitive where size alone would not be enough of itself.

I am not saying Smillie's pre-draft form is a write off but I am saying he may have to really explore what is best for him, especially at the higher levels to help figure out what is best for him. The bottom line is, for me, what worked in the youth levels, may not apply effectively at the senior levels, but Smillie has skill and a unique set of traits which may be effective if utilised in the best way for him and the team he plays with. So for me it is not a simply as throwing him in clearance, the senior level is more sophisticated and advanced than that where bigger bodies with more seasoned experience and advanced skill sets are already in there competing, It would be advisable for Smillie to develop and hone in his approach and skill set before prematurely throwing into the wolves before he has fully recovered from set-backs and what not.

Michael Tuck played 50 reserves games, developing more and building up in the reserves early on is not a insult

In position less football the separation between KPP and midfielders for some in terms of roles can be rather frivolous, and it is not like Smillie is a midget where he has no KPP scope whatsoever

 

[Meteoric Rise]

KPP are more important than midfielders so by labelling Smillie a midfielder you are insulting him.

I think Smillie is a unicorn. He could be many things. He may not be a KPP, but he may be, I am not putting limits on him.

The point is Smillie has played in his youth as a bigger kid and done this and that. Size would have played a role. Now he is in the professional version where players are a lot better and more competitive where size alone would not be enough of itself.

I am not saying Smillie's pre-draft form is a write off but I am saying he may have to really explore what is best for him, especially at the higher levels to help figure out what is best for him. The bottom line is, for me, what worked in the youth levels, may not apply effectively at the senior levels, but Smillie has skill and a unique set of traits which may be effective if utilised in the best way for him and the team he plays with. So for me it is not a simply as throwing him in clearance, the senior level is more sophisticated and advanced than that where bigger bodies with more seasoned experience and advanced skill sets are already in there competing, It would be advisable for Smillie to develop and hone in his approach and skill set before prematurely throwing into the wolves before he has fully revered from set-backs and what not.

Michael Tuck played 50 reserves games, developing more and building up in the reserves early on is not a insult

In position less football the separation between KPP and midfielders for some in terms of roles can be rather frivolous, and it is not like Smillie is a midget where he has no KPP scope whatsoever

Ok now I am genuinely concerned Señor Magic. The last player you didn't put limits on was Biggy Nyuon.

 

[sawyer]

If Big Smil has a million fans, then I am one of them. If Big Smil has ten fans, then I am one of them. If Big Smil has only one fan then that is me. If Big Smil has no fans, then that means I am no longer on earth. If the world is against Big Smil, then I am against the world.

 

[Cdog71]

Took 5 marks, 23 disposals.
Keep him in the vfl till he gets consistent and gets confidence in his game and his body

 

[JAKLAUGHING]

yeah I have


When did I say he was not a good kick??

reads like word lettuce from you....

And Mayo?! is there Mayo?!

 

[Lord of the Wings]

Cotchin debuted in round 8 after missing the preseason. Smillie is clearly no Cotchin

 

[Drunken Wookie]

The big Smilodon's gonna tear a few sphincters this weekend.

 

[ShereKhan]

KPP are more important than midfielders so by labelling Smillie a midfielder you are insulting him.

I think Smillie is a unicorn. He could be many things. He may not be a KPP, but he may be, I am not putting limits on him.

The point is Smillie has played in his youth as a bigger kid and done this and that. Size would have played a role. Now he is in the professional version where players are a lot better and more competitive where size alone would not be enough of itself.

I am not saying Smillie's pre-draft form is a write off but I am saying he may have to really explore what is best for him, especially at the higher levels to help figure out what is best for him. The bottom line is, for me, what worked in the youth levels, may not apply effectively at the senior levels, but Smillie has skill and a unique set of traits which may be effective if utilised in the best way for him and the team he plays with. So for me it is not a simply as throwing him in clearance, the senior level is more sophisticated and advanced than that where bigger bodies with more seasoned experience and advanced skill sets are already in there competing, It would be advisable for Smillie to develop and hone in his approach and skill set before prematurely throwing into the wolves before he has fully revered from set-backs and what not.

Michael Tuck played 50 reserves games, developing more and building up in the reserves early on is not a insult

In position less football the separation between KPP and midfielders for some in terms of roles can be rather frivolous, and it is not like Smillie is a midget where he has no KPP scope whatsoever

Why are we talking about trying to develop Smillie into anything other than a midfielder? We've got Faull, Armstrong, Lefau, Fawcett, Sims and Bauer to work on as tall forwards. But we don't have any Cripps/Tom Green/Bont type mids ...and Prestia is soon retiring, Hopper and TT are 28+, Dow & McCauliffe are still question marks, Sonsie doesn't look like making it, Hotton is returning from an ACL and Macca sure isn't the answer.

Sure, if Smillie fails as a midfielder over the next 2-3 x years let's look at other roles he may be able to fill. And sure, happy for him to be able to rest at half forward or half-back if required - but all of our energy should be focussed on turning him into an elite midfielder as it's what our team badly needs moving forward.

 

[sregit]

You read Magic’s garbage? Stopped doing that along time ago. He’s a Virus.

 

[Calcium Man]

Why are we talking about trying to develop Smillie into anything other than a midfielder?

Because you’re replying to Mr Magic and therefore nothing discussed will have a basis in reality.

 

[THE_GUN]

If Big Smil has a million fans, then I am one of them. If Big Smil has ten fans, then I am one of them. If Big Smil has only one fan then that is me. If Big Smil has no fans, then that means I am no longer on earth. If the world is against Big Smil, then I am against the world.

Are you Big Smi's mother ?
genuine question

 

[THE_GUN]

Because you’re replying to Mr Magic and therefore nothing discussed will have a basis in reality.

That is a deep dark hole i occasionally go down from time to time also
its an Eary place difficult to get out of at times.

 

[Mr Magic]

Why are we talking about trying to develop Smillie into anything other than a midfielder? We've got Faull, Armstrong, Lefau, Fawcett, Sims and Bauer to work on as tall forwards. But we don't have any Cripps/Tom Green/Bont type mids ...and Prestia is soon retiring, Hopper and TT are 28+, Dow & McCauliffe are still question marks, Sonsie doesn't look like making it, Hotton is returning from an ACL and Macca sure isn't the answer.

Sure, if Smillie fails as a midfielder over the next 2-3 x years let's look at other roles he may be able to fill. And sure, happy for him to be able to rest at half forward or half-back if required - but all of our energy should be focussed on turning him into an elite midfielder as it's what our team badly needs moving forward.

When Smillie was born, he forgot to get the stop sign, be a lessor version of yourself because a Bigfooty poster said worry about how Faull, Arms, Armstrong, Leaf, Fawcett, Sims, Bauer, Hopper, and Taranto are doing in their own development.

I do not our handcuffs on players as a rule, I have not mentioned Prestia as he seems near the end of the road..

I am not into putting roadblocks in front of Smillie's potential greatness

 

[wormy]

Big Smil will be great, just you wait and see.

 

[Disco_Stu]

If Big Smil has a million fans, then I am one of them. If Big Smil has ten fans, then I am one of them. If Big Smil has only one fan then that is me. If Big Smil has no fans, then that means I am no longer on earth. If the world is against Big Smil, then I am against the world.

You sound like someone who bought IFs in bulk at the IF factory’s EOFY clearance sale

 

[PetterdHoisted]

The big Smilodon's gonna tear a few sphincters this weekend.

yep

Serpel will let him stretch his legs this week, and he will get 30+