2004 NBA Draft Thread

[tige19]

Who is going to fit the bill for Orlando??? the energetic over confident wants to rule the world and become the greatest ever in Dwight Howard??? Or the mature level headed hard working get up and go and wqill come to play every night guy in Emeka Okafor???
I dont think in the history of the Draft we have ever seen to completley different players both mentally,physically and attitude competing for the number 1 pick.
Chances are both of these players will end up at another club reguardless in years to come so for immediate impact and attitude for Bball every night ill have to go with Emeka.
The guy is more likely going to stay in Magic uniform longer than Howard and will also have the attitude and mindset to bring to a game evrey night.
Tough 1 though!!!

cheers

 

[Portmanteau]

Revised mock posted ^

 

[Carmelo Anthony]

Im changing mine too. With Howard unavailable I think its a lock the Hawks will take the other home town boy Josh Smith before Pheonix can.

 

[Portmanteau]

Originally posted by Carmelo Anthony
Im changing mine too. With Howard unavailable I think its a lock the Hawks will take the other home town boy Josh Smith before Pheonix can.

...therefore unless Washington takes the PG the Clippers don't (Gordon or Livingston), Phoenix will take the leftover under best player available.

 

[Fall Out Boy]

My mock draft (what i expect to happen, not what i would do).

1)Orlando - Emeka Okafor
2)Charlotte - Dwight Howard
3)Chicago - Andre Iguoudala
4)Clippers - Shaun Livingston
5)Dallas - Pavel Podkolzine
6)Atlanta - Luol Deng
7)Chicago - Ben Gordon
8)Toronto - Josh Childress
9)Philadelphia - Andris Biedrins
10)Cleveland - Devin Harris
11)Golden State - Josh Smith
12)Seattle - Al Jefferson
13)Portland - Luke Jackson
14)Utah - Rafael Araujo
15)Boston - Jameer Nelson
16)Utah - Sergey Monya
17)Atlanta - Robert Swift
18)New Orleans - Kirk Snyder
19)Miami - Peter Ramos
20)Denver - Kris Humphries
21)Utah - JR Smith
22)Portland - Sebastian Telfair
23)Portland - Dorrell Wright
24)Boston - Anderson Varejao
25)Boston - Viktor Khyrapa
26)Sacramento - Sasha Vujacic
27)LA Lakers - David Harrison
28)San Antonio - Kevin Martin
29)Minnesota - Forfeit
30)Indiana - Tony Allen

 

[GeeCat]

You expecting Telfair to slip that far down Phat?

 

[Thewlis Dish]

1)Orlando - Emeka Okafor (I still reckon this happens)
2)Charlotte (from Clips) - Dwight Howard (Selection by default)
3)Chicago - Andre Iguodala (Stock is sky high, can step in right away)
4)Clippers - Shaun Livingston (Gordon gone, again by default)
5)Washington - Luol Deng (Delighted he slips this far)
6)Atlanta - Josh Smith ('Other' home town kid)
7)Phoenix - Ben Gordon (Gotta take him if he slips this far)
8)Toronto - Jameer Nelson (Impressed them, can start immed.)
9)Philadelphia - Josh Childress (Will complement AI nicely)
10)Cleveland - Devin Harris (Delighted he slips this far)
11)Golden State - Andris Biedrins (Ditto)
12)Seattle - Kirk Snyder (Adds toughness, McMillan likes him)
13)Portland - Luke Jackson (With Snyder gone, the hometown kid)
14)Utah - Sergei Monya (Worried that Boston take him at 15)
15)Boston - Al Jefferson (Upside is huge, Boston need front help)
16)Utah - Rafael Araujo (Delightted Boston don't pick him)
17)Atlanta - Pavel Podkolzine (They take the chance if he slips)
18)New Orleans - JR Smith (Nice backcourt mate for Diddy)
19)Miami - Robert Swift (They are stoked he is available)
20)Denver - Kris Humphries (Rumoured to love him)
21)Utah - Peter John Ramos (With Araujo, they can take the chance)
22)Portland - Sebastian Telfair (Cheeks LOVES this kid)
23)Portland - Dorell Wright (Able to take a risk here)
24)Boston - David Harrison (A readymade centre, makes sense for the Celts)
25)Boston - Kevin Martin (More help for PP and Ricky D)
26)Sacramento - Anderson Varejao (Can take a chance)
27)LA Lakers - Sasha Vujacic (Word of a guarantee if he slips)
28)San Antonio - Viktor Khyrapa (Most intriguing prospect available)
29)Minnesota - Forfeit
30)Indiana - Tony Allen (Will contribute straight up off the pine)

EDITED

 

[Thewlis Dish]

Originally posted by GeeCat
You expecting Telfair to slip that far down Phat?

I'll be amazed if he slips past Portland at 23, given Cheeks' thoughts on the kid.

 

[Fall Out Boy]

Originally posted by GeeCat
You expecting Telfair to slip that far down Phat?

Yep. Personally i'd have him borderline lottery, but with the slows being put on him for the past few months, he might be one of those that slides well down.

 

[jod23]

Originally posted by Petrie Dish
My mock lottery:

1)Orlando - Emeka Okafor
2)Charlotte (from Clips) - Dwight Howard
3)Chicago - Ben Gordon


My reasoning:

Gordon to Chicago seems weird, but I have heard from several sources that he has moved above Deng and Iguodala on Chicago's draft board. Why, I'm not exactly sure as Hinrich is etched in stone as their point guard, but they may be aiming to replace Jamal Crawford and play an up tempo, albeit smaller, back court.

No chance....

 

[Thewlis Dish]

Originally posted by jod23
No chance....

In Chicago, that's code for "It's on."

Meanwhile, Connecticut coach Jim Calhoun told a Connecticut newspaper that he wouldn't be surprised if the Bulls pick Ben Gordon at No. 3. "I keep getting calls from GMs saying what an incredible athlete he is," he said. "And Chicago is a team that seems to have the most interest."

That said, I've had a change of heart and gone for Iguodala, who has been similarly scorching the workout scene.

 

[Carmelo Anthony]

I think Gordon is a smokescreen, but its true Chicago tried to get him for a second workout but he had to cancel ours and Pheonix's because he has got the flu or something.

He ripped it up at our workout by all reports.

 

[Thewlis Dish]

Originally posted by Carmelo Anthony
I think Gordon is a smokescreen, but its true Chicago tried to get him for a second workout but he had to cancel ours and Pheonix's because he has got the flu or something.

He ripped it up at our workout by all reports.

I think Devin Harris was the only player Phoenix brought back twice because Mike D'Antoni loves him.

 

[Fall Out Boy]

Just edited my mock.

 

[jerry springer]

Originally posted by Petrie Dish
9)Philadelphia - Josh Childress (Will complement AI nicely)
EDITED

like stackhouse,larry hughes,toni kukoc and glenn robinson before him

 

[Carmelo Anthony]

You fergot Van Horn

 

[jerry springer]

Originally posted by Carmelo Anthony
You fergot Van Horn

damn there's another! as much as I admire AI for his heart the man cant pass the ball.

 

[Portmanteau]

...all of those players a prima donnas, though. Childress is a solid kid.

 

[no1bankteller]

Originally posted by Presti_is_god
Any Aussies a chance this draft???

No but David ANdersen had a strong finish in Italy. He may sign with Atlanta, considering that they drafted him last year.

 

[Portmanteau]

Yeah, you'd expect the Hawks would look at him given their lack of er... players and talent. Think he was the Italian League Finals MVP or something along those lines... not shabby at all.

 

[Fall Out Boy]

Draft starts at 9am Melbourne time tomorrow.

 

[Thewlis Dish]

1)Orlando - Dwight Howard (most upside, question's on Emeka's health)
2)Charlotte - Emeka Okafor (Pick by default)
3)Chicago - Andre Iguodala (Stock is sky high, can step in right away)
4)Clippers - Shaun Livingston (Gordon gone, again by default)
5)Dallas - Pavel Podkolzine (That's apparently why they traded)
6)Atlanta - Luol Deng (Can't pass him)
7)Chicago - Ben Gordon (They love him, have their SF at three)
8)Toronto - Jameer Nelson (Impressed them, can start immed.)
9)Philadelphia - Josh Childress (Will complement AI nicely)
10)Cleveland - Devin Harris (Delighted he slips this far)
11)Golden State - Andris Biedrins (Ditto)
12)Seattle - Kirk Snyder (Adds toughness, McMillan likes him, Jefferson possible)
13)Portland - Luke Jackson (With Snyder gone, the hometown kid)
14)Utah - Sergei Monya (Worried that Boston take him at 15)
15)Boston - Al Jefferson (Upside is huge, Boston need front help)
16)Utah - Rafael Araujo (Delightted Boston don't pick him)
17)Atlanta - Josh Smith (Delighted he slips this far)
18)New Orleans - JR Smith (Nice backcourt mate for Diddy)
19)Miami - Robert Swift (They are stoked he is available)
20)Denver - Kris Humphries (Rumoured to love him)
21)Utah - Peter John Ramos (With Araujo, they can take the chance)
22)Portland - Sebastian Telfair (Cheeks LOVES this kid)
23)Portland - Dorell Wright (Able to take a risk here)
24)Boston - David Harrison (A readymade centre, makes sense for the Celts)
25)Boston - Kevin Martin (More help for PP and Ricky D)
26)Sacramento - Anderson Varejao (Can take a chance)
27)LA Lakers - Sasha Vujacic (Word of a guarantee if he slips)
28)San Antonio - Viktor Khyrapa (Most intriguing prospect available)
29)Minnesota - Forfeit
30)Indiana - Tony Allen (Will contribute straight up off the pine)

 

[Fall Out Boy]

Update, with trades taken into account.

1)Orlando - Emeka Okafor
2)Charlotte - Dwight Howard
3)Chicago - Andre Iguoudala
4)Clippers - Shaun Livingston
5)Dallas - Pavel Podkolzine
6)Atlanta - Luol Deng
7)Chicago - Ben Gordon
8)Toronto - Josh Childress
9)Philadelphia - Andris Biedrins
10)Cleveland - Devin Harris
11)Golden State - Josh Smith
12)Seattle - Al Jefferson
13)Portland - Luke Jackson
14)Utah - Sergey Monya
15)Boston - Jameer Nelson
16)Utah - Rafael Araujo
17)Atlanta - Robert Swift
18)New Orleans - Kirk Snyder
19)Miami - Peter Ramos
20)Denver - Kris Humphries
21)Utah - JR Smith
22)Portland - Sebastian Telfair
23)Portland - Dorrell Wright
24)Boston - Anderson Varejao
25)Boston - Viktor Khyrapa
26)Sacramento - Sasha Vujacic
27)LA Lakers - David Harrison
28)San Antonio - Kevin Martin
29)Minnesota - Forfeit
30)Indiana - Tony Allen

 

[Borgsta]

my feable attempt at this.

1)Orlando - Emeka Okafor
2)Charlotte - Dwight Howard
3)Chicago - Andre Iguoudala
4)Clippers - Devin Harris
5)Dallas - Pavel Podkolzine
6)Atlanta - Shaun Livingston
7)Chicago - Ben Gordon
8)Toronto - Luol Deng
9)Philadelphia - Andris Biedrins
10)Cleveland - Josh Childress
11)Golden State - Luke Jackson
12)Seattle - Al Jefferson
13)Portland - Josh Smith
14)Utah - Sergei Monya (apparently its a cert)
15)Boston - Robert Swift
16)Utah - Rafael Araujo
17)Atlanta - Jameer Nelson

 

[mattyc2422]

If the Spurs are to use the draft, I wouldn't mind someone like Kevin Martin, Varejao, Synder or Viktor Khyrapa (whom the Spurs are supposedly interested, but who knows...)

2nd round, expect Lionel Chalmers (if he drops that far) or some Euro prospect for long term. (Jaber Rouzbahani, the 7'5" 19 year old Iranian - let him play for a Euro team and see if he pans out?)