2006 Draft profiles (mojo31)

[Ysaye]

Firstly, well done to Mojo31 for all his profiles.

Finally saw Gumbleton on TV today, and must admit he is the most impressive draft prospect I have ever seen playing WAFL. Peel lost today, but as a CHF he continually presented down the spine and took strong marks in contested situations - he missed a easy shot on goal but his skills otherwise were brilliant, especially his handballing and ground skills. I am on dangerous ground, but when he moved into the midfield/ruck he reminded me of Ryan Griffen (Albeit he is a bit taller).

Chris Waterman (Peel Coach) said at half time that he was a natural leader, a future AFL champion and that he would be worth finishing last to pick up at next years draft, which I thought was a pretty dangerous comment for an AFL coach-aspirant to make.

Also from watching that game(draft related sort of), whats wrong the recruiters before the Eagles not to recruit Shannon Hurn?

 

[theorangeapple]

Also from watching that game(draft related sort of), whats wrong the recruiters before the Eagles not to recruit Shannon Hurn?

Looking at Hurn's game today, I think he might make afew recruiters look stupid down the track. I think clubs were scared off by his size and lack agility. And his history of OP.

However, his pace looks good at WAFL level at least and when given a run in the midfield he looks a cut above. I think the club was planning on bringing him through defence but he looks alot better up the ground.

Anyone who can snap a goal from 50m has powerful legs. The only other guy I have seen do that is Steward Dew.

 

[Philhawk]

You are going to have to give me a club or something more. Otherwise I could be hear all day rambling on.

Well, seeing as I value your opinion pretty highly Mojo - hypothetically speaking if Hawthorn could have their pick of any player in the draft, who do you believe they would choose?

Would they go for a small in Gibbs or another KP to compliment Franklin, Roughhead, Dowler and co.?

 

[Ysaye]

Looking at Hurn's game today, I think he might make afew recruiters look stupid down the track. I think clubs were scared off by his size and lack agility. And his history of OP.

However, his pace looks good at WAFL level at least and when given a run in the midfield he looks a cut above. I think the club was planning on bringing him through defence but he looks alot better up the ground.

Anyone who can snap a goal from 50m has powerful legs. The only other guy I have seen do that is Steward Dew.

Yep this Guy is Stewart Dew/Brad Johnson mixed with really good midfield skills. Marcus Drum has looked good, but this guy is going to be a star - I daresay oneday he could match it with the best at the eagles.

Are there any profiles of Moss or Masten around the place? I just haven't been able to see much local footy this season....

 

[theorangeapple]

Yep this Guy is Stewart Dew/Brad Johnson mixed with really good midfield skills. Marcus Drum has looked good, but this guy is going to be a star - I daresay oneday he could match it with the best at the eagles.

Are there any profiles of Moss or Masten around the place? I just haven't been able to see much local footy this season....

If its any consolation, we would have taken Drum before Hurn if we had the chance so Drum must be a good player.

 

[lazer_04]

does anyone think that rick delphine from gippsland power have much of a chance of making the big time? can someone provide some info on the ball magnet

 

[rgauci]

Hey mojo, I am pretty interested in Fremantle's recruiting strategies. Its become fairly obvious we are in desperate need of midfielders with footskills. But over the last few drafts we haven't picked any up. To the increasing frustration of many fans.

It seems this draft is full of key position players. Who are the midfielders with the best footskills apart from Selwood and Gibbs? which i think will go before we get a pick. (EDIT reread the first couple pages, I guess Houli and Proud seem to fit the mark, but i think Fremantle desperately need some pace). Who do you think Fremantle will be targetting?

Also, if you have the time, what is your opinion of our drafting over the past 3 years? I am particularly interested in the lack of midfielders? 3 in 3 years doesn't seem enough, even when we trade for Carr and Black.

2005
Pick 10 Marcus Drum
Pick 26 Garrick Ibbotson
Pick 42 Robert Warnock

2004
Pick 59 Bennet Copping (KPP)
Pick 67 Toby Stribling
Pick 69 relisted a delisted player

2003
pick 10 Ryley Dunn - particularly interested in your thoughts on this pick
pick 12 Ryan Murphy
Pick 19 David Mundy
Pick 27 Adam Campbell
Pick 43 Brett Peake


EDIT: another two quick questions:
1. Any talent coming from Aquinas College (WA) this year? we've seen a few over the years.
2. Also the Murray Bushrangers, Connolly seems to have an affliction in picking up someone from this club?

 

[mattyc2422]

G'day Mojo. Don't want to ask for too much but just wondering your thoughts on Brad Kelleher and Marcus Crook. Both down at Box Hill this year.

 

[mojo31]

Sounds great to me and I'd be rapt to get him after finishing twelth , but are Sellar, Hansen, Gibbs and Gumbleton the players you have ranked better than Thorp?

1) Lachlan Hansen KPP
2) Scott Gumbleton CHF
3) Mitch Thorp KPP
4) James Sellar Ruck/CHF
5) Bryce Gibbs Utility

These top 5 are pretty even and just depends on what a team needs as to who they might take out of these 5.

6) Joel Selwood Midfielder
7) Jack Riewoldt KPP
8) Matthew Leuenberger Ruck

Not as talented as the top 5 but a step above everyone else.

9) Leroy Jetta Midfielder/FP
10) Albert Proud Midfielder
11) Clayton Collard Midfielder
12) Tom Hawkins (F/S) Ruck/CHF
13) Brock O'Brien HBF/Midfielder
14) Eric Mackenzie KPP
15) Clinton Benjamin Utility
16) Bachar Houli Midfielder
17) Ben Reid KPP
18) Andrejs Everitt Utility
19) Chris Schmidt Midfielder

Not a huge gap between 9 and 19 here and for me it is like pick 2 in 2005 for all these prospects.

20) Mitch Hislop Midfielder
21) Tom Collier Utility
22) Grant Weeks HFF/Midfielder
23) Alex Lee CHF
24) Travis Boak Midfielder
25) Ricky Petterd Midfielder/HFF
26) Jackson Sherringham Midfielder
27) Joshua Kennedy (F/S) HBF/Midfielder
28) Gavin Urquhart Midfielder
29) Sammy Sheldon (F/S) HFF/Midfielder
30) Brent Renouf Ruck

This is about the level of 8 to 20 in 2005.

Top 30 as of today. Some of the players have been out injured so a bit hard to rank them.

 

[mojo31]

Firstly, well done to Mojo31 for all his profiles.

Finally saw Gumbleton on TV today, and must admit he is the most impressive draft prospect I have ever seen playing WAFL. Peel lost today, but as a CHF he continually presented down the spine and took strong marks in contested situations - he missed a easy shot on goal but his skills otherwise were brilliant, especially his handballing and ground skills. I am on dangerous ground, but when he moved into the midfield/ruck he reminded me of Ryan Griffen (Albeit he is a bit taller).

Chris Waterman (Peel Coach) said at half time that he was a natural leader, a future AFL champion and that he would be worth finishing last to pick up at next years draft, which I thought was a pretty dangerous comment for an AFL coach-aspirant to make.

Also from watching that game(draft related sort of), whats wrong the recruiters before the Eagles not to recruit Shannon Hurn?

I would not be surprised if he went at 1 this year to be honest. Is the best forward prospect out of anyone. Sharp shooter who is physical and takes contested marks. 196cms and playing seniors for 4 weeks now in the WAFL. Form is not dropping off like it did with Mitch Clark last year.
A long way in front of Kennedy and Ryder and Clark from last year at this stage. If he holds this sort of form then a good chance he goes at 1 (depending on team need I suppose).

 

[mojo31]

Well, seeing as I value your opinion pretty highly Mojo - hypothetically speaking if Hawthorn could have their pick of any player in the draft, who do you believe they would choose?

Would they go for a small in Gibbs or another KP to compliment Franklin, Roughhead, Dowler and co.?

Hawks 2004

Passed on Griffen to take Roughead. Looking to get a structure more over the best avilable player.
Took Frankiln at 5 but that was a given with Tambling gone. Lewis as a big bodied mature player with only decent athleticism was a surprise at 7.
Traded Thompson and went for youth. Serious rebuild.

Hawks 2005

Took Ellis at 3 when it was mooted a bit before they were looking at taking 2 more talls based on what they did in 2004. However if it was not Ellis it would have been Thomas. At 6 they took Dowler and if he was not there then would have been Kennedy. So it was going to be 1 runner and 1 KPP type. Took an utility at 14 with Birchall. Very outside but plenty of scope to improve. Both Ellis and Birchall are about as far away from a Lewis type as can be. So no real definitive strategy about what they are doing.
Then a ruck in Bailey was taken and another ball carrier in Muston. I do not think Beau Muston was in there planning. Just had a look around and what was left with the pick and nobody rated much and decided to take the risk on him.

So we have 2 KPP in Dowler and Roughead
2 Utilities in Birchall and Franklin who might become KPP but also might be almost like tall onballers.
1 HBF who is not a midfielder yet but is a great user of the ball in Ellis.
Muston as a bit of a freak who dropped with injury and Hawks loaded up on picks and could afford to take the chance.
A ruck taken pretty early in Bailey to replace Everitt.

So whats the pattern here?

There is none. They are taking the best available player for what they need. They needed a bit of size in 2004 and went that way. They went for skill and run in 2005.

They traded 2 KPP players who would not be around in the time frame when they would have the team who would be challenging for a premiership in Hay and Thompson.

The only thing that stands out for me is that all the players taken are all good kicks of the ball. Kicking still is clearly rated very highly by Clarkson and anybody with a question mark on it will not be picked. So guys like Wade Mills, Andrew Swallow will always be passed on.

Not surprisingly they went after Guerra who is a very good field kick for his small height. Camporeale would have been an option with his skill but he is far to old for Clarksons long term plan. So Guerra at 23 (?) is fine for what they are doing. Matty Lappin also could have been targetted to go into the PSD but he is also to old.

So basically your club will look for best fit/best player who has good kicking skill. No picks will be traded and maybe a mature aged player might be taken from another club but dont count on it. A complete and serious rebuild with no top ups.

Looking at your team. Croad as a versatile KPP who has reached the quality stage. He can be moved around depending on need. Roughead as a developing tall who might be better suited down back based on what I have seen of him so far.
Franklin still to fill out but his style is not really of a KPP. Maybe not the answer at CHF and the bullocking work but as a tall flanker/wing who can lead a long way up the ground and lose his opponents in traffic and run away from them. If he is manned up by a midfielder to match his athleticism he can stay in the F50 and use his height and reach more to advantage.
Dowler is perhaps more of a FF than a CHF. He is a very good mark in contested situations but his body work in congestion is not so good. Prefers space and to be 1 on 1 rather than up at CHF with a mass of bodies around him buffetting him.
Looks more comfortable on the lead. A bit of a mark and kick player at the moment who is pretty athletic and a sharp shooter for goal. Not as good in the physical stakes as for example Josh Kennedy (Carlton) is but has him covered in athleticism and skill.

So Dowler at FF who can move to CHF for a break and as he develops. Croad as a legitimate qulaity KPP who can play botht ends. Roughead as a tall defender. Frankiln on the flank pushing right up the ground. Williams out of the pocket.
So for me that leaves a gap wherever Croad is not. If he plays forward then you are 1 KP defender down and the same if he plays back. So you can either make a decision on where you want to play Croad and then look for the best alternative to replace him in the other position.

If you play him at CHF then Thorp/Riewoldt/Hansen are th best picks for CHB/FB depending on if Roughead takes FB or CHB.

But for me I would play Croad mostly back (his kicking fo goal is getting better but will still will never be great) and look for a CHF. The best one is Gumbleton who is about a rock solid a forward prospect as you can imagine. He can take CHF and Croad can play CHB and when there is no match up for Croad he can go forward with his athleticism and look to stretch opposition teams defenses.

I would not be concerned with your midfield to much. Lewis, Hodge, Mitchell, Bateman and then kids developing under them. Crawford will need to be replaced but you are not relying on him as much anymore. Hodge and Mitchell have overtaken him by a fair margin now.

The ruck situation is not resolved. Campbell is improving but has a long way to go. I dont think Taylor will make it. Spida not sure if he is going to stay or get the deal he wants? McEntee was an ok pick on the rookie list but wont make it if you are realistic. Bailey has a bit of talent but wil take a while.

So Sellar would be a possability but that type of player who is a little short for maybe a full time ruck and as an athlete who can play forward as well is a bit similar to Ryder who the Hawks passed on and went for the giant 205cm Bailey later on. Sellar is 197cms but unless he was 200cm by the draft camp and going to be a full time ruck and had no question marks on that I do not think your club would select him.

Gibbs has the footskills your club looks for but is not the quickest player around. I think Gumbleton, Thorp or Hansen would be better prospects for what you need.

With where you will finish it seems your pick will be 6 to 10 around about. So thats Selwood, Riewoldt, Leuenberger, Jetta material.
You have not picked 1 short player in the last 2 drafts early on. Birchall, Muston, Ellis, Lewis are all tall flanker/midfielders. So a player like Jetta would be a surprise.

Leuenberger would be a chance but after taking Bailey it would be a bit of a double up. Selwood as an inside clearance player not overly blessed with speed and his kicking skills are good but not in the Hidge class. Having Hodge and Mitchell would not make it ideal with him. Class player but not in the Luke Ball (2.87 for the 20m) for speed.

So for me that leaves Jack Riewoldt as a KPP who is best available/best fit who will be an option as your pick with where you are likely to finish and what your team needs.

If your form drops away or you get a spate on injuries then 1 of Thorp, Hansen or Gumbleton would be in the frame as forst choice picks.

Something like that off the top of my head.

You would know more than me anyway about your team but those are a few thoughts on your situation at this early stage.

 

[Vinnie Vegas]

Mojo, your thoughts:

Out of Eric Mackenzie, Ben Reid and Andrejs Everitt, who would be the most likely to make it as an AFL Full Back, and who has the biggest scop for improvement in terms of bulking up?

 

[mojo31]

Mojo, your thoughts:

Out of Eric Mackenzie, Ben Reid and Andrejs Everitt, who would be the most likely to make it as an AFL Full Back, and who has the biggest scop for improvement in terms of bulking up?

Mackenize was nearly eligible for the draft in 2005 so he is a top aged kid born 19/5/88 and will alomst be 19 by the time the 2007 season starts. Listed at 193cms and 84kgs but would be a lot bigger than that and might be taller. He will play year 1 and is the least risky of any of those 3.
Has played forward and even ruck last year and before but its mainly at CHB last year. He could play at full back at AFL level. Will have the body and strength and physicality. Good athlete but not great. Nothing lacking and a superb competitive attitude.

Ben Reid barely scrapes into being eligible for this draft by 2 days. 29/4/89 means he is basically 1 year younger than Mackenzie. Very skinny but has great hands ovehead. He is as much a forward as a back at this stage. He is 3 years off being ready to play KPP. Huge scope to improve.

Andrejs Everitt is along the lines of Reid but he is even more like a flanker/running player with great speed. Great closing speed in the Internation Rules game at the Dome a while ago wqhere he ran players down and moved like a midfielder. Would be quicker than Gibbs for example.
He is about as thin as you could imagine and is the poster child for a bottom aged kid with the physical tools to be developed anywhere you want.
Think Grant Birchall but ltaller/bigger leap and a 25% better athlete and might end up almost ruck size when he is finished. Grown 4cms in the last year from 189 to 193 and another similar spurt this year would move him up to top10 range. Wont be 18 until March next year and not like to be finished filling out for 2 or 3 years after he is taken in the draft.
Could be a back up ruck, tall flanker, KPP at either end. Kicks the ball a long way.

You dont play someone like that at full back. You try them everywhere else and if they are not performing then you might look at converting them into a full back after that. With his leap and ability to kick long I would play him forward. If he was getting a battering with a small body size and had trouble bulking up then I would free him up and play him at HBF on mediuk sized players who he can out reach but can match there speed (at least) and not be outbodied.

So Mackenzie would be the one. Older and more physically developed and a power key defender who has played there a lot now. Reid as a 50/50 forward and back who needs to bulk up. Everitt is as much a tall onballer as he is a KPP in style aven though he is 193cms already.

 

[Lingsface]

. Will have the body and strength and physicality. Good athlete but not great. Nothing lacking and a superb competitive attitude.

15.4 in beep test isnt to far off a great athlete

 

[foj1]

The Cannons have 2 talls that I think might climb up the rankings as the year goes on. Their names are Putt and Duyndam and they are both bottom aged. Putt looks to be over 200cm and duyndam at about 195. Both pretty athletic but obviously need to bulk up. I wouldnt be surprised if they are snapped up this year like a lot of young tall tend to. any thoughts?

 

[mojo31]

15.4 in beep test isnt to far off a great athlete

Leap?
Agility?
Speed?
3km run?

Good but not great. Great is Nick Riewoldt level. Good is Eric Mackenzie level which means he has enough athleticism to play KPP at AFL level which is what we are talking about. But not enough to play on the wing like Nick Riewoldt, Lance Franklin have.

Just a comparison.

 

[rgauci]

Hey mojo, I am pretty interested in Fremantle's recruiting strategies. Its become fairly obvious we are in desperate need of midfielders with footskills. But over the last few drafts we haven't picked any up. To the increasing frustration of many fans. Whats your opinion on our drafting?

It seems this draft is full of key position players. Who are the midfielders with the best footskills? Who do you think Fremantle will be targetting?


2005
Pick 10 Marcus Drum
Pick 26 Garrick Ibbotson
Pick 42 Robert Warnock

2004
Pick 59 Bennet Copping (KPP)
Pick 67 Toby Stribling
Pick 69 relisted a delisted player

2003
pick 10 Ryley Dunn - particularly interested in your thoughts on this pick, was he rated?
pick 12 Ryan Murphy
Pick 19 David Mundy
Pick 27 Adam Campbell
Pick 43 Brett Peake


EDIT: another two quick questions:
1. Any talent coming from Aquinas College (WA) this year? we've seen a few over the years.
2. Also the Murray Bushrangers, Connolly seems to have an affliction in picking up someone from this club?

BUMP. Don't mean to be annoying. Just really keen to find out your thoughts on the above.

 

[mojo31]

BUMP. Don't mean to be annoying. Just really keen to find out your thoughts on the above.

I am a bit busy now but will put something up when I can.

Sorry about that.

Nick Smith also and the 31 to 50 rankings also.

Tim Houilhan also when I get the chance.

Anyone else then put it here and I will get to them in time. Anyone else I missed?

What do people want?

Player comparsion?
Strengths/weaknesses?
What a club might do?
Where I project them playing?
Rankings ?

Just let me know if anybody wants something but be specific and I am prepared to answer as best as I can. I dont proof read though. I just type away and answer as best as I can off the top of my head.

 

[rgauci]

No problem, take your time. I'm just glad anyone can answer questions about the future draft at this early stage.

Its great to get an educated insight into the clubs drafting strategies. I look forward to your future posts with interest.

 

[Lingsface]

Leap?
Agility?
Speed?
3km run?

Good but not great. Great is Nick Riewoldt level. Good is Eric Mackenzie level which means he has enough athleticism to play KPP at AFL level which is what we are talking about. But not enough to play on the wing like Nick Riewoldt, Lance Franklin have.

Just a comparison.

speed and 3km must be alright on beep test

 

[Vinnie Vegas]

Mackenize was nearly eligible for the draft in 2005 so he is a top aged kid born 19/5/88 and will alomst be 19 by the time the 2007 season starts. Listed at 193cms and 84kgs but would be a lot bigger than that and might be taller. He will play year 1 and is the least risky of any of those 3.
Has played forward and even ruck last year and before but its mainly at CHB last year. He could play at full back at AFL level. Will have the body and strength and physicality. Good athlete but not great. Nothing lacking and a superb competitive attitude.

So who would you compare him to in style, in terms of AFL defenders?

Ben Reid barely scrapes into being eligible for this draft by 2 days. 29/4/89 means he is basically 1 year younger than Mackenzie. Very skinny but has great hands ovehead. He is as much a forward as a back at this stage. He is 3 years off being ready to play KPP. Huge scope to improve.

Does he have the frame to bulk up, or is he always likely to be skinny? Has he got the long arms and legs of a Fletcher, or just skinny?

Andrejs Everitt is along the lines of Reid but he is even more like a flanker/running player with great speed. Great closing speed in the Internation Rules game at the Dome a while ago wqhere he ran players down and moved like a midfielder. Would be quicker than Gibbs for example.
He is about as thin as you could imagine and is the poster child for a bottom aged kid with the physical tools to be developed anywhere you want.
Think Grant Birchall but ltaller/bigger leap and a 25% better athlete and might end up almost ruck size when he is finished. Grown 4cms in the last year from 189 to 193 and another similar spurt this year would move him up to top10 range. Wont be 18 until March next year and not like to be finished filling out for 2 or 3 years after he is taken in the draft.
Could be a back up ruck, tall flanker, KPP at either end. Kicks the ball a long way.

You dont play someone like that at full back. You try them everywhere else and if they are not performing then you might look at converting them into a full back after that. With his leap and ability to kick long I would play him forward. If he was getting a battering with a small body size and had trouble bulking up then I would free him up and play him at HBF on mediuk sized players who he can out reach but can match there speed (at least) and not be outbodied.

Yeah, understand that, definitely. Do you see him making a quality ruckman if he does grow to the 198cm range?

So Mackenzie would be the one. Older and more physically developed and a power key defender who has played there a lot now. Reid as a 50/50 forward and back who needs to bulk up. Everitt is as much a tall onballer as he is a KPP in style aven though he is 193cms already.

Thanks a bunch moj'!

 

[Pafloyul]

Sounds great to me and I'd be rapt to get him after finishing twelth , but are Sellar, Hansen, Gibbs and Gumbleton the players you have ranked better than Thorp?

I think you were talking to me.

Yes; I disagree a bit with Mojo's order as I think Hansen will go at pick four and Thorp at five.

The top three are a raffle.

 

[Vinnie Vegas]

I think you were talking to me.

Yes; I disagree a bit with Mojo's order as I think Hansen will go at pick four and Thorp at five.

The top three are a raffle.

For mine, Gibbs, Sellar and Hansen are the top 3, as they're the type that generally goes number one.

Just out of the last few #1 picks, we've seen the ruckman with amazing agility go #1, like Sellar drawing comparisons to Josh Fraser.

We've also seen smart, talented and athletic but skinny key position player Nick Riewoldt go #1, similar to Hansen.

And with guys like Luke Hodge, Adam Cooney, Brett Deledio and Marc Murphy, we've seen who was deemed as the best midfielder in the land go at #1.

I suppose Gumbleton could fit in there, but to me, those three are the top 3 at this stage, all of which is very much subject to change. I mean, this time last year Mitch Clarke was very much considered a lock for a top 3 spot.

 

[Silvagnis]

I think you were talking to me.

Yes; I disagree a bit with Mojo's order as I think Hansen will go at pick four and Thorp at five.

The top three are a raffle.

I was talking to you and after rankings like that I might put Mojo31 on my ignore list.

I think we need a gun key defender to address our weaknesses more than a gun ruckman, CHF and wingman going forward with what we've already drafted. Mojo might have brainwashed me and I'd be very happy if we can get our hands on Sellar, Gibbs or Gumbleton, but there is a bigger hole at fullback and CHB than in the midfield, rucks and forwardline.

Shame there isn't a Griffen or Ball there available this year!

I think we'll be better off if we can draft Hansen or Thorp early if the top three picks are actually a raffle.

Now all we have to do is finish low enough so we don't miss out on a superstar like we did in 2004.

 

[ben_cats_fan]

14) Thomas Hislop

Midfielder

Burnie Dockers (Tasmania)
185cms and 84kgs
7/6/1988

Had a shoulder reconstruction in late May after the trip to Ireland for the U17s AIS-AFL International Rules and sat out the whole year after that

Very good clean hands under pressure. Superb reader of the player and very hard at the ball. Loves the contest and will continually put his head over the ball. Good vision and is smart with his use of the ball. Class inside player with the body and brain to dominate. Very physically developed player but it was not just that he was using to win the ball. Was genuinely smart with his movement and positioning.
Was a combination of strength and class that made him stand out.

Not that quick over the ground but definitely not slow. Reasonable agility but would not call him twinkle toes. Is tough, fearless and very hard at the ball and man. A natural midfielder who hunts the ball and is rarely caught out. Good anticipation and awareness. Very similar type to Joel Selwood. Not quite as good and more developed physically. Perhaps not exactly the midfielder we need but he is a class player and prospect. Very strong in the lower half of his body and very strong in the hips to break a tackle. Good tackler himself.
A small query on his body type for the future with being nuggety and developed at such a young age. So will have to watch how he looks this year after the shoulder operation and how he goes against grown men for the Devils to give an indication of whether how much of his game is sheer early physical development and how much is actual ability (like Shannon Hurn from last years draft).
He wont be able to run over the top of those stronger bodies and will be good to see how he handles that.
I don’t think his game is based too much around that and he is smart enough to be able to change his game according to different circumstances.

A clean, hard, physically tough inside player who does the basics well and is a natural footballer. Good skills with hand and foot and a very good size and another few cms of height would be very welcome. As it stands 185cms as a 16 year old is pretty impressive for a midfield prospect

Hislop is relocating from Burnie to play with the Tassie Mariners and should get a few games with the Tassie Devils in the VFL competition. Hard to judge him but going on tapes from the U16s back in 2004 he looked super impressive.

Far too arrogant and argumentative. Played against him in school footy. Came on, casually took a mark outside 50 and slotted it off his left. He then proceeded to knock 3 players out and dished out a hell of a lot of at the umpires.

An absolute ass, but boy does he have some talent. Quite frankly was the only player standing between us and the flag