2006 Draft profiles (mojo31)

[cs61]

JON is a very much bottom age whilst Tambling was always going to be a long term investment with little expected over the first season seasons. What gap were Richmond 'venturing to plug' with these 2 lads?

Building a quailty midfield for the long term.

Richmond were in real trouble of not meeting the min-player payments for the cap lets alone 'filling it'. You have to remember, comming off 2004 the list was not all that crash hot. Simmonds isn't on alot and his bottom ended contract means towards the end of his carrer space will be made for the up and commers. Knobel and Graham (500k each per year ) are hardly on top bracket whilst the loss of the like of Ottens, Campbell along with many other fringe types (Zantuck etc.) ment space isn't going to be an issue.

From what I've seen of each Birchall & Franklin you are clutching at straws to claim either is a KPP.

Again - compared to Hawthorn, Richmond has not done as well in the drafting of a spine yet Hawthorn are an extreme and one off example.

Compared to the other 14 sides in the league we have done quite well in that regard. More so when you take into account the future midfeild/running types we have drafted.


I asked what type of players to you think Richmond will target in the next drafting assuming we finsh (realisticly) 15th/14th-9th.

I don't think I've read more waffle in my life.

 

[mojo31]

Mojo 31
Do you think Ricky Delphine is any chance of getting drafted? I know his size is against him, but he is a prolific ball winner.

Ricky Delphine

Gippsland Power
8/1/1988
169cms and 70kgs

Best and fairest winner from the premiership team. Pretty sure he did not even nominate for the draft last year (?).
Gets a heap of ball and is as courageous as they come. But at his height he needs to do more than that. He needs to be lightning and he is not. He needs to have super skills and he does not. He is not slow and is an okay kick but they need to be much better than that.
He also needs to grow 4 or 5 cms to be in contention this year. He was too young to be rookied last year and might be a way for him this year.
Watching him take a huge hit in the GF shows the sort of stuff he is made of. But with the way the draft is going with height and speed he is going to struggle.

Eddie Betts went in the PSD and was overlooked by every club 4 or 5 times in the main draft. Pearce was taken as a rookie by Port despite burning up the draft camp.
Nicholls also a similar story and the list goes on.

At 175 and under you can expect a rookie listing at best unless there is something absolutely magical about them. I do not agree with it but it’s the way it seems to be going. 189cms “utilities” who cant play or kick but fit the profile and run a good beep are in demand.

So he will need to be a fair bit taller. Get a little bit more speed and keep dominating like he did last year and he has a chance I would say of a rookie or late pick.
175cms though at least.

 

[footyman]

Ricky Delphine

Gippsland Power
8/1/1988
169cms and 70kgs

Best and fairest winner from the premiership team. Pretty sure he did not even nominate for the draft last year (?).
Gets a heap of ball and is as courageous as they come. But at his height he needs to do more than that. He needs to be lightning and he is not. He needs to have super skills and he does not. He is not slow and is an okay kick but they need to be much better than that.
He also needs to grow 4 or 5 cms to be in contention this year. He was too young to be rookied last year and might be a way for him this year.
Watching him take a huge hit in the GF shows the sort of stuff he is made of. But with the way the draft is going with height and speed he is going to struggle.

Eddie Betts went in the PSD and was overlooked by every club 4 or 5 times in the main draft. Pearce was taken as a rookie by Port despite burning up the draft camp.
Nicholls also a similar story and the list goes on.

At 175 and under you can expect a rookie listing at best unless there is something absolutely magical about them. I do not agree with it but it’s the way it seems to be going. 189cms “utilities” who cant play or kick but fit the profile and run a good beep are in demand.

So he will need to be a fair bit taller. Get a little bit more speed and keep dominating like he did last year and he has a chance I would say of a rookie or late pick.
175cms though at least.

Did you mention that he is short?

7 times by my count!

I agree with what you say, it's a shame that many talented footballers don't get the opportunity to be involved at AFL level. He could give the Morrish Medal a shake though, the umpires tend to notice blokes like him.

 

[HBF]

Did you mention that he is short?

7 times by my count!

I agree with what you say, it's a shame that many talented footballers don't get the opportunity to be involved at AFL level. He could give the Morrish Medal a shake though, the umpires tend to notice blokes like him.

Tend to agree with Mojo though. Vertically challenged footballers seem to be overlooked unless they are very very good. From what I have seen of him, which is not much, the kid deserves to be at least rookie listed.

 

[Nightwolf]

Crawf is damn short, but 169cm is ridiculously short..

People had doubts on Murphy's height, this guy has no hope. Which is a shame, coz i watched him the GF last year, and thought he went alright..

 

[mojo31]

Did you mention that he is short?

7 times by my count!

I agree with what you say, it's a shame that many talented footballers don't get the opportunity to be involved at AFL level. He could give the Morrish Medal a shake though, the umpires tend to notice blokes like him.

I was using Ricky and his lack of height to have a bit of a whinge and moan about how the game is going, the way of recruiting and to stick up for the little oppressed man in general.
So in reality it was a political speech more than a profile.

Vote 1 : The short man

 

[theorangeapple]

I dont like it when people say "AFL's an althete's game...you need to be 6'3 and run like the wind". These people should sit in the coaches box when you 170cm midfielder is being dragged to full back by his 190cm opponent and getting out marked all over the ground. Its the way footy is going, coaches isolate players to gain maximum advantage, you can no longer 'hide' a player from an opposition side, every player must be very fit and able.

 

[Vinnie Vegas]

I dont like it when people say "AFL's an althete's game...you need to be 6'3 and run like the wind". These people should sit in the coaches box when you 170cm midfielder is being dragged to full back by his 190cm opponent and getting out marked all over the ground. Its the way footy is going, coaches isolate players to gain maximum advantage, you can no longer 'hide' a player from an opposition side, every player must be very fit and able.

To the same extent, is there a team in the league that doesn't play a guy that an exceptionally talented 170cm-ish player could play on?

Adelaide: Tyson Edwards, Hayden Skipworth
Brisbane: Jason Akermanis
Carlton: Eddie Betts, Luke Blackwell
Collingwood: Leon Davis, Tarkyn Lockyer
Essendon: Suprisingly, no players under 180cm on senior list.
Fremantle: Peter Bell, Heath Black, Troy Cook, Jeff Farmer, Byron Schammer.
Geelong: Shannon Byrnes
Hawthorn: Chance Bateman, Campbell Brown, Shane Crawford, Harry Miller
Kangaroos: Brent Harvey, Troy Makepeace
Melbourne: Aaron Davey
Port Adelaide: Brett Ebert, Danyle Pearce
Richmond: Andy Krakouer, David Rodan
St Kilda: Steven Milne
Sydney: Jared Crouch, Adam Schneider, Paul Williams
West Coast: Michael Braun, Ashley Sampi, David Wirrpunda
Western: Matthew Robbins

Those are just guys that generally play from week to week - So there's one team in the league who doesn't play a player thats significantly shorter than 180cm.

I mean, you probably wouldn't want to be taking a 173cm guy with a #1 pick, but it doesnt mean that there's no place for them whatsoever.

 

[Jimmyjess]

Ricky Delphine

Watching him take a huge hit in the GF shows the sort of stuff he is made of.

His efforts in the GF were exceptional, particularly given that he took an even bigger hit against Northern in the PF. Was really sore after that hit and even spent some time in Hospital. Despite that was prepared less than a week later to again put his body on the line.

I have tremendous respect for the kid and hope his efforts are rewarded with Vic Country selection this year. Knows how to get the ball and if not drafted would be an excellent rookie choice.

 

[mojo31]

Did you mention that he is short?

7 times by my count!

I agree with what you say, it's a shame that many talented footballers don't get the opportunity to be involved at AFL level. He could give the Morrish Medal a shake though, the umpires tend to notice blokes like him.

I count 2 or 3. The rest was highlighting the way the game is going and the athlete with the great profile versus the footballer.

 

[mojo31]

To the same extent, is there a team in the league that doesn't play a guy that an exceptionally talented 170cm-ish player could play on?

Adelaide: Tyson Edwards, Hayden Skipworth
Brisbane: Jason Akermanis
Carlton: Eddie Betts, Luke Blackwell
Collingwood: Leon Davis, Tarkyn Lockyer
Essendon: Suprisingly, no players under 180cm on senior list.
Fremantle: Peter Bell, Heath Black, Troy Cook, Jeff Farmer, Byron Schammer.
Geelong: Shannon Byrnes
Hawthorn: Chance Bateman, Campbell Brown, Shane Crawford, Harry Miller
Kangaroos: Brent Harvey, Troy Makepeace
Melbourne: Aaron Davey
Port Adelaide: Brett Ebert, Danyle Pearce
Richmond: Andy Krakouer, David Rodan
St Kilda: Steven Milne
Sydney: Jared Crouch, Adam Schneider, Paul Williams
West Coast: Michael Braun, Ashley Sampi, David Wirrpunda
Western: Matthew Robbins

Those are just guys that generally play from week to week - So there's one team in the league who doesn't play a player thats significantly shorter than 180cm.

I mean, you probably wouldn't want to be taking a 173cm guy with a #1 pick, but it doesnt mean that there's no place for them whatsoever.

Late draft pick or rookie selection we are talking about Vinnie like you said. Another great year from Ricky and improved disposal and some more height and a touch more speed and he is right in contention.

169cms very unlikely
173/175 good chance

 

[mojo31]

His efforts in the GF were exceptional, particularly given that he took an even bigger hit against Northern in the PF. Was really sore after that hit and even spent some time in Hospital. Despite that was prepared less than a week later to again put his body on the line.

I have tremendous respect for the kid and hope his efforts are rewarded with Vic Country selection this year. Knows how to get the ball and if not drafted would be an excellent rookie choice.

Agree with you on all that. Saw those 2 incidents and have a lot of respect for how he goes about it. Late pick or rookie selection candidate.

 

[mojo31]

Time for some more profiles I think. I will make them brief but a few kids I think have potential. Will put them up in the afternoon.

 

[mojo31]

Beau Vernon

179cms and 73kgs
5/12/88
Gippsland Power

Quick player with skill and ball carrying ability. Hits the ball hard and while small he throws himself in and is quite fearless. Played all over the ground for the Gippsland and started last year in the forward pocket. Moved around after that with the occasional run on the ball and more time on the half back line.
Like to see him play midfield and especially wing this year with a bit of time as a rover. Very young last year to be playing TAC and was 16 for the whole season and with some likely growth and physical development he will be a good prospect for the draft. Has the attitude and skill to make it based on his efforts last year in a very good side. Given more opportunities and game time he should push his name right up.

 

[mojo31]

Josh Riddle

186cms and 84kgs
3/9/88
Northern Knights

Versatile and well built player. Playing key position in the TAC and is a good mark and has good judgement. Strong over the ball. Good pace and can really play anywhere but I guess at his height it would be as a half back flanker that clubs would be looking at for him with a possible move into the midfield over time.
Might develop into a good mid size forward as he has very clean hands and is capable of taking a contested mark.
A couple of his games at the end of the season were outstanding at CHB where he marked everything that came his way. Very good under pressure and is composed and smart and has a touch of class.
One to watch and just outside my top 30 at this stage. Not by much though.

 

[defier]

QUOTE=mojo31]Ricky Delphine

Gippsland Power
8/1/1988
169cms and 70kgs

Best and fairest winner from the premiership team. Pretty sure he did not even nominate for the draft last year (?).
Gets a heap of ball and is as courageous as they come. But at his height he needs to do more than that. He needs to be lightning and he is not. He needs to have super skills and he does not. He is not slow and is an okay kick but they need to be much better than that.
He also needs to grow 4 or 5 cms to be in contention this year. He was too young to be rookied last year and might be a way for him this year.
Watching him take a huge hit in the GF shows the sort of stuff he is made of. But with the way the draft is going with height and speed he is going to struggle.

Eddie Betts went in the PSD and was overlooked by every club 4 or 5 times in the main draft. Pearce was taken as a rookie by Port despite burning up the draft camp.
Nicholls also a similar story and the list goes on.

At 175 and under you can expect a rookie listing at best unless there is something absolutely magical about them. I do not agree with it but it’s the way it seems to be going. 189cms “utilities” who cant play or kick but fit the profile and run a good beep are in demand.

So he will need to be a fair bit taller. Get a little bit more speed and keep dominating like he did last year and he has a chance I would say of a rookie or late pick.
175cms though at least.[/QUOTE]

Thanks for your response

 

[*PAFC*13]

Josh Riddle

186cms and 84kgs
3/9/88
Northern Knights

Versatile and well built player. Playing key position in the TAC and is a good mark and has good judgement. Strong over the ball. Good pace and can really play anywhere but I guess at his height it would be as a half back flanker that clubs would be looking at for him with a possible move into the midfield over time.
Might develop into a good mid size forward as he has very clean hands and is capable of taking a contested mark.
A couple of his games at the end of the season were outstanding at CHB where he marked everything that came his way. Very good under pressure and is composed and smart and has a touch of class.
One to watch and just outside my top 30 at this stage. Not by much though.

Sounds a bit like Matty Laidlaw?

 

[go the power]

hey mojo, impressive stuff you have going on here!!!. just got told about the site and thought id drop by to check it out. im a gippsland power fan and went and watched the praccy match last weekend...

How do u think Ben Ross, Ben Hughes, and Tom johnson will go this year?
any possible draftee;s?

 

[mojo31]

Sounds a bit like Matty Laidlaw?

A reasonable comparison I would say. I think Laidlaw is quicker and more of an onballer. They both play tall and are good overhead but Riddle is more a key position type in style. Versatile and can really play on anyone in the TAC. He also has plenty of time to be a lot taller than 186 and be legitimate key position size or even a tall flanker. So thats where I see him developing as a 3rd tall defender who might be able to pinch hit at CHB at around 190cms when he is finished. Time will tell I suppose when he has finished growing.

I see Laidlaw as a ball carrier who breaks the lines and just happens to take a good mark. Riddle is a defender who is strong overhead and uses his body well. He just happnes to have good speed and can run a bit on top of that.
Similar charactersitics overall but Riddle has a year to develop before the draft.

 

[mojo31]

hey mojo, impressive stuff you have going on here!!!. just got told about the site and thought id drop by to check it out. im a gippsland power fan and went and watched the praccy match last weekend...

How do u think Ben Ross, Ben Hughes, and Tom johnson will go this year?
any possible draftee;s?

Thanks and welcome to the site.

Ben Hughes is a tall defender who moves pretty well and is quite powerfully built. Good long kick of the ball and quite physical and has a touch of class. Not a bad mark and could play forward as well. I think he is some chance of being drafted. Just depends on opportunities and where he plays. Is Hansen going to play CHB or CHF this year?
Overall Hughes play a lot of games last year but lost his position at the end of the season. With Flint gone there is a spot open for him down back.

Ben Ross is a very small midfielder who can play forward. Looks pretty good as a crumbing forward who kicks goals and is dangerous and lively. SDuited to that position. Small build and he will be competing against 20 others at his size and maybe only 5 will get drafted. So I think he will be up against it at this stage.

Tom Johnson is a good and versatile player. Can play midfield and on the flank and is hard at the ball and reasonable athletic. Decent size but nothing really stands out for me and you need something to at his size to get drafted. Good solid player in the TAC but maybe not quite enough to get drafted.

So Ben Hughes for me has a decent chance. Johnson will need to impose himself this year. Push his possessions well into the 20s and kick more goals when playing hff. There was a stretch in the middle of the season where his form was good but he dropped away after that through a loss of form and opportunities. Ben Ross needs to play this year like he did against Bendigo and the Jets last year. In those games he had skill, run and won the ball and was very lively. Looked dangerous in the forward poicket and when switched onball gathered a lot of it and used it with precision.

 

[go the power]

yeah i agree with you there mojo. I was wondering the same which way hansen and hughes will be played, As they both could slot in nicely to either CHB or CHF, personally id rather see hansen CHB as nothing will get past him and hughes is very accurate around goals. Hansen only needs to play well to get drafted, whereas i think hughes needs to put in a great season to be looked at. And probably make the u18 champs team. I think Jeff Ryan will also be one to watch this season from the power!.. overall the team is looking great so far from the reports that have been passed through to me. Im predicting top 4 finish..

 

[mojo31]

yeah i agree with you there mojo. I was wondering the same which way hansen and hughes will be played, As they both could slot in nicely to either CHB or CHF, personally id rather see hansen CHB as nothing will get past him and hughes is very accurate around goals. Hansen only needs to play well to get drafted, whereas i think hughes needs to put in a great season to be looked at. And probably make the u18 champs team. I think Jeff Ryan will also be one to watch this season from the power!.. overall the team is looking great so far from the reports that have been passed through to me. Im predicting top 4 finish..

Personally I would like to see Hansen play CHF this year and see how he goes. I have seen enough at CHB to think he can play there at AFL level and know I want to see how he goes in the forward line.

I think just into the top 4 and not quite as strong as last year but still a good side.

 

[Limbach_19]

Hey mojo i would like to know your thoughts on Daniel Hayes from Eastern Rangers and his chances this year

 

[mojo31]

Hey mojo i would like to know your thoughts on Daniel Hayes from Eastern Rangers and his chances this year

Daniel Hayes

Half forward flank/wing

178kms and 66kgs
13/7/1988
Eastern Ranges

A left footed aboriginal player. Has extreme speed and agility and is a very exciting prospect. Very skillful and is classy with good kicking skills and a fine finisher in front of goal.
Started the year as a bench player and some time on the wing. Moved to the back pocket and half back flank and finally settled on the half forward flank and changing on the wing. Made the U18s team for Vic Metro. His form curtailed a little after that as can happen but picked up again at the end of the year. His last 5 games were very strong and kicked 10 goals and averaged 18 possessions. Very impressed with his game against Geelong where he kicked 5 and looked quite lethal.

What I do like about him is his workrate. With the ball he runs and carries and takes players on. Without the ball he will run and chase and tackle. Is prepared to butter up in a marking contest and apply second efforts and keep himself in the contest. I see him developing as a ball carrying wing who kicks goals. Applies defensive pressure. I dont see him just as a "burst" player out of the forward pocket and think he will have enough endurance to play midfield.

What he does have to do is really put on some weight. 66 kgs is 10 to 15 to light and he will need to hit the gym and start to change that. Hopefully he gets a bit taller as well. I really cant see him not being drafted this year. Any sort of natural improvement from him and he will go about the 3rd round in the draft. Might even move up higher than that depending on how much midfield he plays this year and his physical development.

Very fast, skillful, good footwork and workrate, decent motor and its just his size that would drop him down a little at this stage.

 

[Silvagnis]

Daniel Hayes

Half forward flank/wing

178kms and 66kgs
13/7/1988
Eastern Ranges

A left footed aboriginal player. Has extreme speed and agility and is a very exciting prospect. Very skillful and is classy with good kicking skills and a fine finisher in front of goal.
Started the year as a bench player and some time on the wing. Moved to the back pocket and half back flank and finally settled on the half forward flank and changing on the wing. Made the U18s team for Vic Metro. His form curtailed a little after that as can happen but picked up again at the end of the year. His last 5 games were very strong and kicked 10 goals and averaged 18 possessions. Very impressed with his game against Geelong where he kicked 5 and looked quite lethal.

What I do like about him is his workrate. With the ball he runs and carries and takes players on. Without the ball he will run and chase and tackle. Is prepared to butter up in a marking contest and apply second efforts and keep himself in the contest. I see him developing as a ball carrying wing who kicks goals. Applies defensive pressure. I dont see him just as a "burst" player out of the forward pocket and think he will have enough endurance to play midfield.

What he does have to do is really put on some weight. 66 kgs is 10 to 15 to light and he will need to hit the gym and start to change that. Hopefully he gets a bit taller as well. I really cant see him not being drafted this year. Any sort of natural improvement from him and he will go about the 3rd round in the draft. Might even move up higher than that depending on how much midfield he plays this year and his physical development.

Very fast, skillful, good footwork and workrate, decent motor and its just his size that would drop him down a little at this stage.

Can he be used in a backpocket like Graham Johncock?

If Sheldon isn't worth a third round pick I would love Carlton to target skilled Aboriginal midfielders with our 2nd and 3rd round picks. Something Carlton sorely lack in our side and I'm reminded of everytime Wells or Davey do their thing.