Mega Thread 2013 Official Draft Thread

[Tigerbob]

Two clubs are dead keen on pick 1 and have shown it to GWS.

The right deal they would trade. From what I have heard an offer has already intrigued them from a Melbourne club.

 

[Calcium Man]

Two clubs are dead keen on pick 1 and have shown it to GWS.

The right deal they would trade. From what I have heard an offer has already intrigued them from a Melbourne club.

do you have any idea who? I'm guessing Saints and Bulldogs who would both love Boyd.

 

[Tigerbob]

do you have any idea who? I'm guessing Saints and Bulldogs who would both love Boyd.

Carlton and Bulldogs.

Carlton have been very, very forthright. They want Boyd, bad.

 

[Stylo]

Carlton and Bulldogs.

Carlton have been very, very forthright. They want Boyd, bad.

Gibbs?

 

[Calcium Man]

Gibbs?

I think Kruezer. Should have just trade pick 1 for Judd and kept Josh Kennedy

But I think they need to add more with Kruezer with the form he has shown. Really shows the over valuation of draft picks

 

[Tigerbob]

Gibbs?

Not what I've been told. Kruezer and a swap of draft picks.

Carlton want Boyd. They are dead keen.

 

[Mr Magic]

Carlton and Bulldogs.

Carlton have been very, very forthright. They want Boyd, bad.

We should be trying to trump the blues because they are about to go backwards.

Apart from Gibbs and Murphy I cannot see them having the collateral needed. Pauls Roos on the coach said if Kruzeur and Yarran where mentioned you would have to take both for no.1

Personally if they get Boyd for Kruzuer and Yarran its a steal because Yarran still hasn't made it yet and over the years , including recently, there are plenty of options to get a value ruckman

 

[Mr Magic]

I think Kruezer. Should have just trade pick 1 for Judd and kept Josh Kennedy

But I think they need to add more with Kruezer with the form he has shown. Really shows the over valuation of draft picks

See Paul Roos on the couch, No way Kruzeur is worth pick one according to Paul!!!

Or are we talking about overvaluing ruckman and undervaluing forwards?

 

[Calcium Man]

Not what I've been told. Kruezer and a swap of draft picks.

Carlton want Boyd. They are dead keen.

So Kruezer and pick 9ish for pick 1 and 20ish?

Pretty fair but since they are trading Kruezer a former number 1 pick for less then the paid shows that maybe you shouldnt put all your eggs in one basket.

 

[Tigerbob]

Getting Kruezer and Franklin would make them a lot more competitive that's for sure.

 

[Damo80]

Surely the Lions would have to consider Longer and their first pick for pick 1. They're another in desperate need of a replacement for Brown, and Leuenberger is still young, and recently extended his contract.

 

[THE_GUN]

Carlton wont trade Kruezer - No Chance for a unproven foward
They would be looking to move both Warnock & Hampson

 

[Mr Magic]

Carlton wont trade Kruezer - No Chance for a unproven foward
They would be looking to move both Warnock & Hampson

??Kruzeur is an unproven ruck isn't he???

What makes Kruzeur proven like a Cox??

 

[Dragonss]

To back up what tigs2010 observed about Daniel Mcstay

Daniel McStay (Eastern Ranges)
Height: 193 cm
Weight: 83 kg
Position:Defender/Midfielder
Player comparison: Tyson Goldsack (Better disposal)
Strengths: Athleticism, Disposal, Versatility
Weaknesses: Strength
Daniel McStay is a valuable prospect in the 2013 National Draft because unlike many players he has the ability to play as a key defender or a tall wingman, something very few others can do. While he’s mostly found his home in defence for Vic Metro, McStay was able to show off his midfield ability during a few games when he wasn’t required for a key role. Given Eastern Ranges have such a strong team with plenty of tall timber, McStay has the rare chance to use his athleticism and height to provide plenty of run to create plays up the field.
He’s often not talked about in the same breath as other key position players because while he has the height, he doesn’t have the strength of others like Darcy Gardiner or Michael Apeness. What McStay offers to a club is that ability to break the lines and move into the midfield which is rare for a 193cm player. He’s also a hard player to find a comparison with because very few eligible key defenders can move into the midfield. A few years ago Andy Otten showed glimpses of being able to play midfield before injury struck while others such as Tyson Goldsack have made moves onto the wing. I have decided on Goldsack in terms of style, but McStay has much better disposal efficiency. While Goldsack is far from a ball butcher, McStay is one of the better kicks in the TAC Cup.
Daniel McStay is in the top ten for disposal efficiency and also averages just under six marks a game and is top five in contested marks for the TAC Cup. Those ahead of him are Tom Boyd, Hugh Goddard, Michael Apeness and Patrick McCartin. All members of their respective Victorian sides, yet McStay has more than held his own. His ability to average over 15 disposals a game also ranks high for a key defender who pinch hits in the midfield.
McStay is one of those guys you want the ball in his hands. He has solid endurance and decent speed for a guy of his height and a nice solid kick to hit targets up the field. While he is only 83kg, McStay has the height of 193cm which should see him become a really solid key position defender for the future. The only fear with weight gain is whether he can maintain his athleticism. McStay could become a perfect match up for the Cloke’s and Riewoldt’s who just run their opponents into the ground. Obviously he would be monstered at first, but after a season in the gym, McStay could really develop into a strong defender and hold his own against the beast forwards.
With the new sub rules and impending interchange cap, clubs are ultra keen on discovering players that can play multiple positions. While McStay should settle into a key defensive post, it would be of great advantage for a club to send a player of McStay’s ilk into the midfield. Whether that would be to give a winger a breather or use his flexibility against teams with smaller forward lines where he would not be needed down back.
With his elite disposal efficiency and strong marking ability, McStay has all the characteristics to become a star player. Teams looking for flexible defenders such as Collingwood, Geelong, Hawthorn or Brisbane may take a look at McStay who is a dark horse in the draft as it sits. He could very well go anywhere from second round to fourth round depending on who needs his skill set, but one thing’s for sure, McStay has too many valuable qualities and characteristics for a club not to take a chance on him.

TAC Cup Statistics:
Games: 7Goals: 6
Averages:
Disposals: 15.47
Marks: 5.86
Tackles: 2.14
Disposal Efficiency: 79.12%
DT Points: 72.71

Cited from http://boundforglorynews.com/tac-cup-player-focus-daniel-mcstay/

 

[tigs2010]

To back up what tigs2010 observed about Daniel Mcstay


Cited from http://boundforglorynews.com/tac-cup-player-focus-daniel-mcstay/

With that write up he'll probably go really early.

Thought I'd found a gem. Lol

 

[tigs2010]

If we landed Sheed this year, we wouldn't need to draft another midfielder for 5 years

Was going off what I'd read on here that Shifter said he's a teens pick and he's still a teens pick in some Phantom Drafts. I'd happily take him 1 or 2. Depending on if I needed a mid or a KPF.

 

[Tigers26]

Was going off what I'd read on here that Shifter said he's a teens pick and he's still a teens pick in some Phantom Drafts. I'd happily take him 1 or 2. Depending on if I needed a mid or a KPF.

At this stage Sheed is seen by some clubs as a prospect in the 10-20 range. Others have more scope for improvement in their development, and Sheed also has a lack of speed to win the outside ball.

 

[tigs2010]

At this stage Sheed is seen by some clubs as a prospect in the 10-20 range. Others have more scope for improvement in their development, and Sheed also has a lack of speed to win the outside ball.

Then give him to Richmond. We will be unbeatable. I know he hasn't got much athleticism but he's just a much, much better footballer than most kids out there.

 

[RichoLedio]

At this stage Sheed is seen by some clubs as a prospect in the 10-20 range. Others have more scope for improvement in their development, and Sheed also has a lack of speed to win the outside ball.

What a strange name for a Port Adelaide supporter

 

[Tigerbob]

Then give him to Richmond. We will be unbeatable. I know he hasn't got much athleticism but he's just a much, much better footballer than most kids out there.

If we had pick 12 and obtained Sheed, start celebrating.

11 other clubs would have made a vital but sadly a repeatable offence.

He is in my top 5. You can't beat football skills when picking a footballer.

 

[tigs2010]

If we had pick 12 and obtained Sheed, start celebrating.

11 other clubs would have made a vital but sadly a repeatable offence.

He is in my top 5. You can't beat football skills when picking a footballer.

Was sitting at home on Friday thinking he's the exact type that would slide and make people look stupid. Would be sensational.

Thoughts on Nathan Freeman who Brett Anderson has us taking? I think he's a pretty good fit. Would probably prefer to Hartung.

 

[Top_4_Tiger]

Do recruiters watch footage from drafts over 6-8 years ago?

It would be a wonderful learning experience to seriously analyse old footage with the benefit of hindsight. Which traits catch the eye but often led to a failed career at the next level? What type of traits in a player subsequently leave them under the radar? (Eg Jack Riewoldt vs Thorpe/Gumby/Hansen).

It would be a useful learning tool IMO. If one can look at an 18yo Sam Mitchell and find some clues as to why he became a gun and so many others didn't, it could give them an advantage in identifying new talent.

The same could happen by keeping extensive psych profiles of every draftee for later examination. Learning from such information should probably receive as much attention as analysing the current year's draft, or at least if you're a part-timer.

 

[tigs2010]

Do recruiters watch footage from drafts over 6-8 years ago?

As far as I'm aware they do. Not sure how much they do but they do review it years down the track.

 

[tigs2010]

Brett Anderson mock draft (1st round)

FIRST ROUND FORECAST
1. GWS Giants – Tom Boyd (199cm, 102kg forward – Eastern Ranges)
Boyd is another blue-chip key forward prospect much like Patton, Cameron, Daniher and Hogan. He is a strong mark and accurate kick.
2. Melbourne – Josh Kelly (182cm, 73kg midfielder – Sandringham)
Kelly is a hard running midfielder with elite foot skills who has had a super carnival for Vic Metro. The Dees tossed up the possibility of taking the Sandringham ball winner in last year’s mini-draft.
3. Bulldogs – Matthew Scharenberg (190cm, 89kg utility – Glenelg)
A tall rangy utility, he could play just about anywhere on the ground but should develop into a midfielder at the next level. His form over the past month has been outstanding.
4. St Kilda – James Aish (183cm, 74kg midfielder – Norwood)
Projected as the No.1 pick a year ago, Aish is a smooth midfielder who is just as good in space as he is in close despite his slender frame.
5. Brisbane – Jack Billings (183cm, 78kg midfielder – Oakleigh)
A smart half forward-cum-midfielder, Billings is damaging with ball in hand, especially forward of centre as he knows where the goals are.
6. Gold Coast – Blake Acres (188cm, 83kg utility – West Perth)
Creative running type who can play across half-back as well as in the midfield. Injured his shoulder last Friday but has had a very good national carnival.
7. North Melbourne – Luke McDonald (188cm, 80kg utility – Oakleigh)
Son of former Roo, Donald who is a raking left foot kick off half-back. Captain of Vic Metro this year and has played a few games for Werribee in the VFL.
8. West Coast – Ben Lennon (187cm, 79kg utility – Northern Knights)
A powerful player with a long right boot and great strength overhead, Lennon is able to play a range of different positions.
9. Carlton – Jonathon Marsh (191cm, 89kg forward – East Fremantle)
Super quick for his size and boasting genuine x-factor, Marsh has shot up the boards over the past month. He can help fill the hole in the Blues’ key forward stocks.
10. GWS Giants – Lewis Taylor (173cm, 73kg midfielder – Geelong)
Small in stature but smart, skilled and knows how to win the ball. Taylor is rated by Falcons boss Mick Turner as good a player as he has seen in 19 years in the system.
11. Collingwood – Christian Salem (183cm, 82kg mid – Sandringham)
A balanced, skillful midfielder who has poise under pressure and knows where the goals are.
12. Port Adelaide – Dom Sheed (183cm, 82kg midfielder – Subiaco)
The WA skipper had an outstanding carnival in midfield, capped off by his 29-possession, four-goal effort last Friday. He will miss the final game with a broken collarbone.
13. Richmond – Nathan Freeman (181cm, 85kg mid – Sandringham)
Strong-bodied onballer with a burst of pace who is good at winning his own ball in close. Has also shown an ability to push forward to hit the scoreboard.
14. Fremantle – Kade Kolodjashnij (188cm, 77kg defender – Launceston)
Prolific ball winner at half back and through midfield for Tassie. Makes good decisions and is clean by hand and foot.
15. Sydney – Darcy Gardiner (192cm, 84kg defender – Geelong)
Extremely good one-on-one and can play at either end, but projects best as a key defender at AFL level. A great user of the ball.
16. Essendon – Dayle Garlett (181cm, 76kg midfielder – Swan Dist)
Overlooked last year for off-field reasons, Garlett’s form in the WAFL is going to be very hard to ignore. A state league player has gone in the first round in two of the past three years.
17. Geelong – Marcus Bontempelli (191cm, 83kg midfielder – Northern Knights)
Athletic left-footed utility who has speed and can break lines. Good in space, still developing inside game.
18. Hawthorn – Matthew Crouch (181cm, 80kg midfielder – Nth Ballarat)
The brother of Adelaide’s Brad is a competitive left-footed midfielder who can rack up big numbers. He is a stoppage specialist.
A few interesting ones not in there. Hartung, Dumont, Hourigan, Templeton, Wilson.

 

[Danog]

Hourigan is presenting well