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Most people didn't have Swanny on their list in the other thread.
This raises a couple of questions; what is he worth and should we consider trading him?
 
pfft he did right by us by signing and always committing to Collingwood. Why would we ship off our much loved Premiership star while he has a bit of value before he retires. Embarrassing and disrespectful thread. If I was a mod I'd ban you.
 
I would Consider Trading Him if a Very Good Offer came for him.

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No, call me sentimental but I hate the idea of viewing all our players purely as currency or a number value to be traded around or exchanged for draft picks. Despite Adams offering what we need, I hated trading out Heater for that very reason.

Besides, no one would offer what he is worth for us.
 
Crooked Girth said:
pfft he did right by us by signing and always committing to Collingwood. Why would we ship off our much loved Premiership star while he has a bit of value before he retires. Embarrassing and disrespectful thread. If I was a mod I'd ban you.
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Bit harsh. I think the op is posing the question, not suggesting we do it.

My opinion. Never trade. He is a super star and I would hate to see him in any other colours.
 
TradeDraft said:
I would Consider Trading Him if a Very Good Offer came for him.

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Dave ... As much as swanny has been a champion for our club, this statement is just pipe-dream. He has ZERO trade value now. We would attract higher bids for someone like Langdon.

swanny is far more valuable to us than to any other club. We just have to hope he can reinvent himself cos he's with us for a few more years.
Maybe a giansiracusa type sub
 
ottoman said:
Bit harsh. I think the op is posing the question, not suggesting we do it.

My opinion. Never trade. He is a super star and I would hate to see him in any other colours.
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Thanks for the support, you're correct I didn't say I would.
The inference from people leaving him off the untouchables list is they would consider it; hence the questions.
 
So is this a thread about "untouchables", or just about Swanny?

I think with Swanny it is a moot point... with a question mark over his fitness going forward, I don't think any club would be willing to take a significant gamble for him - and IF we think he is gonna be fit enough next year - it will take a very good offer to move him on.

I am not overly sentimental about it... if a good enough offer comes along, AND he wants to leave - I wouldn't be averse to trading him. (Again - only if he is along with it... if he wants to stay, and we think he is healthy enough - then no, I wouldn't like to trade him).

But the question has to be asked - what is his baseline level of fitness currently, and does he have a future in the best 22 next year, or future after? If it is 50-50 re: his fitness, I would definitely be on the side of keeping him around and giving him a shot... but looking at how this year has gone - I wonder if next year he turns into one of those "one year too many" guys... but that is really only something that he, and the fitness guys at the club would have an idea about, and with his injuries this year, may take the whole off-season to get an idea of. (which means that he should remain on the list)
 

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Don't even think about it. Bleeds black & white & has already stated he will not play anywhere else.
 
Anzacday said:
Thanks for the support, you're correct I didn't say I would.
The inference from people leaving him off the untouchables list is they would consider it; hence the questions.
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The previous thread was a combination of which players we'd least like to lose along with who would be on the trade table if the right offer came along. Similar to games record holder Shaw not being on the original list, that is more because Collingwood knew Brisbane would not go after him. Similar here with Swan, most would have left him off the list (myself included) because his value has diminished and if lost him now it would not impact our list going forward.

I too would be reluctant to trade but we've seen what's happened with Thomas and Heath Shaw, so if Melbourne said here's pick 2 for him and we'd pick another 10-15 year player, the club couldn't say no. If it was for a second or third rounder then no way. Everything has a right price
 
Big Bryza said:
Hell no. He's a pie for life.
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That's what we would have thought of Heath Shaw and Thomas. One was pushed and one left on his own accord.

I'm not advocating trading him, all I'm saying is if you get an awesome deal which would make the team better you have to consider it. As sad as this is, the game is now a business and clubs and players understand this and generally milk it for their own interests.
 
The everything has its right price idea is interesting. PURELY AS A HYPOTHETICAL what would be the right price for Pendlebury at the end of this year? Two first rounders? Two top five picks? More?
 

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DAWESOME!! said:
The everything has its right price idea is interesting. PURELY AS A HYPOTHETICAL what would be the right price for Pendlebury at the end of this year? Two first rounders? Two top five picks? More?
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It's a deal that we come out unequivocally on top. Draft picks are speculative so that's a no go for me but...
Big Bryza said:
Luke Parker and Dan Hanneberry.
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Is more on the money.
 
Would have got 2 first round picks in 2013 if we had have let him slip to GWS... Probably the same for Daisy as well... We could have had O'Meara /
Martin on our list right now... :)
 

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