List Mgmt. 2014 Draft Watch Thread

[Sunny_]

I didn't think he was purely outside when I watched even his highlights. Has okay to good contested ball work. His elite kicking and leadership are definitely highly attractive. Would be happy to take him at pick 8. Much happier than I would be if we got Wright. Not sure that he is even close to the best midfielder in this draft though. Brayshaw, Heeney and Petracca (sort of a mid) are all well ahead at this stage.

As for the comparison to Pendlebury I don't see it. Pendlebury has an incredible contested game and always did from memory. He built his game around that. Duggan is more outside than inside (at this stage) but can do both. What parts of Dal Santo's game (at his best) do you think Duggan doesn't share? Dal Santo was not a pure outside player at his best?

Perhaps I should say best midfielder available. I keep forgetting about Heeney, as he's not really part of this draft.

I would have him above Petracca and Brayshaw though, simply because the overall package that is Duggan appears to offer more. But I think that could be just personal opinion in what you value most in players. Brayshaw is an inside mid beast, but on the outside his kicking if Mav Welle-esque. Petracca can go forward and is a contested ball monster, but again his skills on the outside let him down. Duggan however, is good everywhere. He isn't typically 'elite' in any one category, but is 'good' at pretty much everything. Holds his own on the inside, dishes it off on the outside, and can go forward or back. You throw in his leadership and even his desire to sacrifice his own offensive game in order to help the team. These players just scream maturity at the next level. They have the head to deal with things, which to me is fairly important. I didn't know he was so much younger than the others, too.

I didn't mean to compare him to Pendlebury in playing style. More that his lack of speed isn't an issue for Pendlebury, similarly how it won't be an issue for Duggan. What he has he uses extremely well. RE: Dal Santo, when would he be in his prime? I did not watch football prior to 2011, but every time I have seen him it's been skirting around the outside of the pack waiting for the receive.

To be honest, if I was looking for a player-to-player comparison, it would be Jimmy Bartel.

 

[Ben Drever]

For cockatoo to dominate his 1 and only game in 15 months.. I want him.. Yer the kids had some injury issues..
Looked like a dustin martin/ adam goodes
Not sure teams like west coast would want to risk there pick on him.. He is very high risk high reward.. We already have the team to fight for a premiership unlike them.
Id even go cockatoo at 8 and hopefully duggan at 15 if not langford or blakely mayb gartlett

 

[TheJaegerBomb]

Perhaps I should say best midfielder available. I keep forgetting about Heeney, as he's not really part of this draft.

I would have him above Petracca and Brayshaw though, simply because the overall package that is Duggan appears to offer more. But I think that could be just personal opinion in what you value most in players. Brayshaw is an inside mid beast, but on the outside his kicking if Mav Welle-esque. Petracca can go forward and is a contested ball monster, but again his skills on the outside let him down. Duggan however, is good everywhere. He isn't typically 'elite' in any one category, but is 'good' at pretty much everything. Holds his own on the inside, dishes it off on the outside, and can go forward or back. You throw in his leadership and even his desire to sacrifice his own offensive game in order to help the team. These players just scream maturity at the next level. They have the head to deal with things, which to me is fairly important. I didn't know he was so much younger than the others, too.

I didn't mean to compare him to Pendlebury in playing style. More that his lack of speed isn't an issue for Pendlebury, similarly how it won't be an issue for Duggan. What he has he uses extremely well. RE: Dal Santo, when would he be in his prime? I did not watch football prior to 2011, but every time I have seen him it's been skirting around the outside of the pack waiting for the receive.

To be honest, if I was looking for a player-to-player comparison, it would be Jimmy Bartel.

Don't think you will find many people especially in club land who would be crazy enough to pick Duggan ahead of Petracca and Brayshaw haha. I think Brayshaw actually has decent disposal. He butchers a bit when under pressure but most inside players do. He will be a very good player mark my words.

Duggan is elite in kicking. He is very dual sided and his left leg is amazing. He is very similar to Dal Santo in this sense. He is primarily an outside player but can win his own ball and may develop to become a pure inside out mid. Just like Dal Santo. Would you call an average of 10-12 contested possessions a game in his prime a purely outside player? Cos I wouldn't! Think your underselling Dal, while he is certainly more of an outside player these days he was a very good inside-out player at the Saints in the day.

He is a good mark but jesus, no where near Bartel IMO. Some similar traits though.

 

[TheJaegerBomb]

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-ne...ing-field-for-recruiters-20141115-11nfn5.html

Not sure if anyone has posted this but Sunny_ has published her power rankings. Thought you didn't rate Brayshaw and Petracca's disposal Sunny_?

 

[TheJaegerBomb]

Liam Duggan at number 8. Height and weight revised, now 184cm and 75kg.

 

[TheJaegerBomb]

Connor Blakely now 189cm and 85kg.

 

[Ben Drever]

Liam Duggan at number 8. Height and weight revised, now 184cm and 75kg.

At 17 would Duggan have a couple more cm left in him take him upto 187-188?

 

[TheJaegerBomb]

At 17 would Duggan have a couple more cm left in him take him upto 187-188?

Maybe. Not my field of expertise though

 

[TheJaegerBomb]

I must say though Sunny_ you are warming me more and more to Duggan at pick 8. I do rate him highly.

Imagine;

Pick 8: Liam Duggan
Pick 15: Nakia Cockatoo
Pick 29: Connor Blakely

Dear god A man can dream...

 

[Sunny_]

Perhaps I undersold Petracca and Brayshaw a bit. I just think that Duggan is right with them for best available mids in the draft. Different skills and qualities, but still extremely valuable.

 

[stuyd1]

With all the talk of us searching every league for mature aged players.. Ready to take the Suns to the next level.. Was Hallaham all they could come up with..?

Ben and fellow posters, go to the AFL website, on the 14th,15th November there is a report headed, Country beast should be drafted.
Its a interview with Rick Ladson whom played some 125 games with Hawthorn and played in their 2008 Premiership team. He is now
the coach of Golden Square, a perennial powerhouse in the very strong Bendigo football league.
The player he is referring to is a guy by the name of Jack Geary, 23 year old gun by all reports. Go to the AFL website and read this report as iot is very impressive and maybe the Suns recruiters should be looking at him.( if they already haven't)
Your thoughts please ?

 

[Ben Drever]

Ben and fellow posters, go to the AFL website, on the 14th,15th November there is a report headed, Country beast should be drafted.
Its a interview with Rick Ladson whom played some 125 games with Hawthorn and played in their 2008 Premiership team. He is now
the coach of Golden Square, a perennial powerhouse in the very strong Bendigo football league.
The player he is referring to is a guy by the name of Jack Geary, 23 year old gun by all reports. Go to the AFL website and read this report as iot is very impressive and maybe the Suns recruiters should be looking at him.( if they already haven't)
Your thoughts please ?

Yer we spotted him yesterday and Mentioned him.. On page 35.
Hasn't been much talk about who were looking at in the rookie draft..
Even the draft,. Haven't actually heard were 100% keen on any1 like last year we were with Kade.. I think because of GWS having 3picks.. Who knows what's going to happen.

 

[TheJaegerBomb]

I think its pretty obvious that he is good mates with Ladson (who is apparently a ripper bloke) and Ladson made a few phone calls to get an article to happen on him. Whether recruiters are looking at him is another story.

 

[Ben Drever]

Probably a dozen the next Michael Barlows out there in various leagues across the country.. Just got to put the time in to find them

 

[Ben Drever]

Top VFL prospects

http://m.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl...ry-fngeflq8-1227125748574?from=herald sun_rss

 

[ZeJackal]

If Wright is there at 8 , we will surely pick him up . We need another KP , God help us if May or Thompson go down , our only back up is Leslie and Schade .

 

[Ben Drever]

Paige cardona phantom draft. 6.0

http://boundforglorynews.com/paige-cardonas-phantom-draft-6-0/

 

[Ben Drever]

Scott clayton article.
Were going after elite talent..best available Not a someone to fill a specific position.
http://m.goldcoastfc.com.au/news/2014-11-18/well-be-looking-for-elite-players-clayton

 

[Iva Bigun]

Who is going to the draft, I am keen as I believe it starts in the late afternoon so i hope to pop down after work

GCFC Official I think this has already been asked but didn't come across it in my searching, how can you get tickets?

 

[Scotty_222]

Who is going to the draft, I am keen as I believe it starts in the late afternoon so i hope to pop down after work

GCFC Official I think this has already been asked but didn't come across it in my searching, how can you get tickets?

what day is it?

 

[GCFC Digital]

Who is going to the draft, I am keen as I believe it starts in the late afternoon so i hope to pop down after work

GCFC Official I think this has already been asked but didn't come across it in my searching, how can you get tickets?

From my understanding, you can get tickets through AFL Queensland.

http://www.aflq.com.au/index.php?id=854

 

[Experimental]

I signed up for tickets a few weeks ago and never received an email after the initial confirmation

 

[Matchu]

Article in the GC Bulletin says the Suns are eyeing their first 'father-son' pick with a large picture of Rodney Eade and Geoff Raines sitting next to each other in their Bears days. It then goes on to say the Suns are expecting to rookie list Geoff's son Andrew and it would be the first 'father-son' connection at Carrara. There are a few quotes from Andrew saying he has always considered himself a Gold Coast boy and talks a bit about high school and junior footy on the GC.

Rodney Eade is quoted as saying the Suns WILL offer him a rookie spot this year if he is still available.

 

[Ben Drever]

Kyle langford

http://mobile.news.com.au/sport/bre...ars-draft-bolter/story-fnect155-1227128763826

 

[sunsofanarchy]

I thought at the start of the year the last thing we need is another 190cm utility but man, I really hope he's still around at 15