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List Mgmt. 2016 Contract status

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DannyTheDoorman said:
If you saw Mason Shaw play you wouldnt be putting his name up. I saw him play against Swans and South a couple of weeks ago and for a guy who was in the system at Port for 3 years albeit he had injury interrupted years he doesn't look or play like a AFL prospect. We would be far better considering getting Tim English to develop as Sandi's replacement in a couple of years. By the way in todays game Peel v Claremont Sam Collins totally shut Cameron out of the game.
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To be fair to Mason Shaw, with this year in the WAFL and the three at Port it makes only about 7 years of him playing footy, he only started in U15s.
 
Tayl0r said:
To be fair to Mason Shaw, with this year in the WAFL and the three at Port it makes only about 7 years of him playing footy, he only started in U15s.
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That's an incredibly short time for a footballer. Minus his injuries as well.

*I hope you don't mind me formatting the post - Taylz
 

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mightymouse75 said:
That's an incredibly short time for a footballer. Minus his injuries as well.

*I hope you don't mind me formatting the post - Taylz
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He was lumped with an extra 20kg over two years when he first joined Port too, so the learning curve was really steep. Trying to learn the game and now learning his new body too. Tough gig.
 
Tayl0r said:
He was lumped with an extra 20kg over two years when he first joined Port too, so the learning curve was really steep. Trying to learn the game and now learning his new body too. Tough gig.
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He must of been a rake as he doesn't look that big now
 
nurries said:
He must of been a rake as he doesn't look that big now
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Was thinking the exact same thing on Saturday watching him play. I remember seeing him play colts for Souths and he was a big boy then so I'm calling bs on the 20kg in 2 years after being drafted story. Maybe from 15yo to 17yo seems more likely.
 
TheMcManusNose said:
Yeah he was 82kg on his draft profile: http://www.boundforglorynews.com.au/2012-afl-phantom-draft/

Footywire has him at 92kg in 2015: http://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/pp-port-adelaide-power--mason-shaw

And WAFL has him at 94kg now. Still looks more gangling than anything, much like Alex Pearce.

However I am fairly certain I recall that Port played him in defence for a season down in the 2s, trying to turn him into a KPD. In addition to the OP.
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Ok, so yeah I guess it's possible he got up to 102kg, so maybe it is true.
 
Seppo said:
Langdon re-signing still means 9 more to go.
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3 rookies delisted
1 main list gone.
Likelihood of 1 contracted player (Ballantyne) leaving. Possibility of another contracted player being paid out.
Of the 9 remaining, I would expect a minimum of 5 to leave and a maximum of 8.
 

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Clems Knee said:
3 rookies delisted
1 main list gone.
Likelihood of 1 contracted player (Ballantyne) leaving. Possibility of another contracted player being paid out.
Of the 9 remaining, I would expect a minimum of 5 to leave and a maximum of 8.
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So am I reading it right that you calculate that we could be positioning to make between 11 and 14 changes to the list?
 
Mr Peabody said:
So am I reading it right that you calculate that we could be positioning to make between 11 and 14 changes to the list?
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Um. Maybe a minimum of 4 to leave from the uncontracted list...but I think it will be at least 5.

Between 9 and 14 changes, yes. 3 rookie list players and 6-11 main list. (The contracted player was a maybe - think there are two obvious candidates)

I would prefer a lower number, with the same number of changes next year. Then we don't have to draft too many late picks this year. That would mean resigning up to five out-of-contract players by the end of the trading period.
 
Clems Knee said:
Um. Maybe a minimum of 4 to leave from the uncontracted list...but I think it will be at least 5.

Between 9 and 14 changes, yes. 3 rookie list players and 6-11 main list. (The contracted player was a maybe - think there are two obvious candidates)

I would prefer a lower number, with the same number of changes next year. Then we don't have to draft too many late picks this year. That would mean resigning up to five out-of-contract players by the end of the trading period.
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Agree with this I would try trading in some 2nd-3rd round picks for our obsolete players and culling similar numbers next yr.

Griff, Sandi, Johnson, Dawson, Suban are all additional candidates to be moved on at the end of '17.
 
2016
De Boer - stay
C. Pearce - gone (no value)
Silvagni - Brissy via FA (3rd round compo)
Hannath - gone if clarke stays (no value)
Mzungu - gone (no value)
Clarke - probably staying if no significant interest. (If leaves as FA probably 3rd round compo)
Barlow - trade or 1 yr ext (work pick 30-50)
Mayne - gone FA to maggies ( probably pick between 19 and 23, hopefully 4 :-) )
Grey - gone but maybe re-rookied (no value)


Probably 6 more gone. Maybe 7.
Probably get 4 picks in top 60 to add to 3, 39 and 57.
Hopefully we add 3-4 players and draft 4-5. We need a new ruck on main and rookie list.
 
To be uncontracted at this stage of the year probably means either you're thinking of leaving (Clarke, Mayne), trade bait (Barlow) or are in a lot of trouble (or 50/50) in terms of keeping you're spot on the list (all the others). It's quite possible all those uncontracted nine won't be on our list next season.
 

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Alex Silvagni is being hunted by Brisbane . We have not offered him a contract yet .I think we are crazy not to have him signed up for next year at least . Talk is Brisbane are prepared to give him a 2/ 3 year deal.
 
couldhavebeen said:
Alex Silvagni is being hunted by Brisbane . We have not offered him a contract yet .I think we are crazy not to have him signed up for next year at least . Talk is Brisbane are prepared to give him a 2/ 3 year deal.
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I'm probably in the less popular camp here but I don't see why the club would sign Silvagni. Collins and Pearce will be our starting two defenders next year if we don't sign someone via trade period (which would put Silvagni back further in the queue). If the club is taking the rebuild seriously I don't think carrying two depth KPDs who are 28+ is needed. So out of him and Dawson and Dawson has the contract for next season. He's been a good servant but in a rebuild you don't keep many depth players who are older than 25.
 
Docker82 said:
I'm probably in the less popular camp here but I don't see why the club would sign Silvagni. Collins and Pearce will be our starting two defenders next year if we don't sign someone via trade period (which would put Silvagni back further in the queue). If the club is taking the rebuild seriously I don't think carrying two depth KPDs who are 28+ is needed. So out of him and Dawson and Dawson has the contract for next season. He's been a good servant but in a rebuild you don't keep many depth players who are older than 25.
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Zac Dawson is best 22 but age is against him ,Johnson same. Alex is coming back from a broken leg . Collins fit and firing ,our only serious back up with experience Ibbo .We need Silver to play until Alex proves he is ready .
 
Docker82 said:
I'm probably in the less popular camp here but I don't see why the club would sign Silvagni. Collins and Pearce will be our starting two defenders next year if we don't sign someone via trade period (which would put Silvagni back further in the queue). If the club is taking the rebuild seriously I don't think carrying two depth KPDs who are 28+ is needed. So out of him and Dawson and Dawson has the contract for next season. He's been a good servant but in a rebuild you don't keep many depth players who are older than 25.
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Valid points and it is what we were doing with several players. Silvagni was gone but his very strong and consistent performances are the only thing that has brought about a potential change of mind (as said by Lyon).

One more good game in the gf may be enough for Freo to make the offer to keep him (would need to be a two year contract) but would he even be tempted now with so many of his mates of the same vintage going? Probably better off taking the offer and enjoying getting an AFL game every week for the next 3 years.
 
They must see Silvagni as the Merrett replacement. And fair enough too. Wouldn't begrudge him leaving for a 2-3 year contract. We shouldn't be offering that length.
 

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