Position 2016 Defenders

[PowerDrafter]

What's Duryea priced at?

 

[KenTucker]

403,800 duryea

 

[PowerDrafter]

403,800 duryea

Such an awkward price, I think he'll be worth a go for now.

I'd probably be looking at someone long term at that 300-350k price at D4

 

[Raveneyes]

Loving your current avatar mate.

This one's for you.

RIP Lemmy.

 

[Goats]

Just after some opinions on a couple of players.

Elliot Yeo - Made the long awaited transition to a midfield role last season. Is this expected to continue? Any Eagle supporters know if he has been training with the midfield group in the preseason?

Mathew Boyd - I haven't seen him in many teams, are people leaving him out due to a combination of price and age? No doubt he'll be rested a few times next year. Do dogs supporters expect him to continue playing off half back with stints on ball?

I feel his knack for racking up marks and kicks across the defensive half coupled with changes to interchange will benefit his SC scores.

 

[Here2tellyouwhy]

Just after some opinions on a couple of players.

Elliot Yeo - Made the long awaited transition to a midfield role last season. Is this expected to continue? Any Eagle supporters know if he has been training with the midfield group in the preseason?

Mathew Boyd - I haven't seen him in many teams, are people leaving him out due to a combination of price and age? No doubt he'll be rested a few times next year. Do dogs supporters expect him to continue playing off half back with stints on ball?

I feel his knack for racking up marks and kicks across the defensive half coupled with changes to interchange will benefit his SC scores.

Yeo should play alot more midfield with McKenzie and Brown back. He will always be used to plug holes as he is so good at it. Great overhead, quick, doesn't lose his feet, evasive, great vision.
He will play midfield and go forward with the play for a few pack marks and goals. He will probally go back a little but I see McGovern going back loose to take the intercept marks. But if Gov is on fire up forward or having a rest it will be Yeo who plays loose back.

Really have to watch his NAB cup and where he plays, his numbers etc. Can definitley see him having a high scoring NAB and being in 70% of sides by round 1.

Boyd I like too, mostly as a replacement for Shaw who is overpriced. If you start with Shaw you probally wont have Boyd as well. Rance would be better IMO.

 

[catstragic]

I think Boyd will score great, but he wont play every game.

If your picking your starting premo's you've gotta go with someone who at least stands a chance of playing all 23 games.

 

[PuffDragon89]

Anyone liking Simpson under the new coach?

By all reports is training the house down. Liking Docherty though, has returned in good condition and is expected to play more midfield minutes. 19 games last year, 87.7ppg, starting at $473,200. Predicting 93+ and but a good chance to play all games, lock for me.

 

[karaoke]

403,800 duryea

As a 4th year break-out type player, would prefer he had scored some more 100's so far.

Only 1 was prelim final last year.

Reckon best he could get over a year would be 80+, if he were to play majority/all games.

 

[Flandersss]

As a 4th year break-out type player, would prefer he had scored some more 100's so far.

Only 1 was prelim final last year.

Reckon best he could get over a year would be 80+, if he were to play majority/all games.

Dureya is a lock down small defender his no Birchall/Suckling.

 

[Super Hans]

For 400k I'd much rather Salem. Has shown he can go big already.

 

[balmainforever]

Would like an opinion on Saad. Haven't heard much on him

 

[Hairy Lager]

I've been swapping Malceski and Aish around in that D4 spot around a fair bit. I will wait and see on Aish's
form me thinks though the extra 110k is very handy.

 

[Goats]

Dureya is a lock down small defender his no Birchall/Suckling.

That's more Stratton's role at Hawthorn - Duryea is a close checking defender but he offers plenty of attack from defence. He finished with the highest overall and highest average for rebounds from defensive 50 for Hawthorn last year. He takes plenty of marks (3rd highest club average and 4th overall), has a good kick to handball ratio (12.8 / 5 average) and his disposal efficiency is good too (77.8%).

His stats are pretty convincing but like any Hawthorn player his scores suffer because the points are shared around pretty evenly.

 

[Flandersss]

That's more Stratton's role at Hawthorn - Duryea is a close checking defender but he offers plenty of attack from defence. He finished with the highest overall and highest average for rebounds from defensive 50 for Hawthorn last year. He takes plenty of marks (3rd highest club average and 4th overall), has a good kick to handball ratio (12.8 / 5 average) and his disposal efficiency is good too (77.8%).

His stats are pretty convincing but like any Hawthorn player his scores suffer because the points are shared around pretty evenly.

1 game over 100 suggests otherwise.

You don't spend over 400k for a 80+ player, bias or no bias IMO.

 

[Goats]

1 game over 100 suggests otherwise.

You don't spend over 400k for a 80+ player, bias or no bias IMO.

I agree, I won't be picking him myself unless I see something pretty special prior to round 1. Even when he gets plenty of the ball he doesn't score particularly well.

No bias on my part, just stating that his role isn't necessarily as a lock down defender, which is illustrated by his stats.

 

[Flandersss]

I agree, I won't be picking him myself unless I see something pretty special prior to round 1. Even when he gets plenty of the ball he doesn't score particularly well.

No bias on my part, just stating that his role isn't necessarily as a lock down defender, which is illustrated by his stats.

Fair enough mate

Malceski/Salem etc are better attacking options IMO..

 

[Glorin]

Fair enough mate

Malceski/Salem etc are better attacking options IMO..

His numbers were sub affected last season ( 3 or 4 games either started or finished I think.) His use as an outlet in the backhalf/ wing, demonstrated by high mark numbers, will only be increased next year if the predicted change in the game styles occurs. He is durable and i can see him playing 22 games averaging 90+. I would be happy with that return from a 400k d4-d6.
Defence this year is either overpriced or speculative. Duryea is the latter and should be on everyone's watch list.

 

[catstragic]

Would like an opinion on Saad. Haven't heard much on him

He is going to be sharing points with KK and Eski. Cant see him him lifting his average enough to justify picking him with that kind of competition. Also, with JOM, Prestia and Ablett coming back into the mids there will be less middle time for players like Saad which will impact their scoring, probably negatively.

 

[toxic]

Fair enough mate

Malceski/Salem etc are better attacking options IMO..

Why for you be suspended?

 

[KardiniaPark]

Why for you be suspended?

Hopefully it's because he doesn't know the difference between he's and his.

 

[Unique Name]

Zac Williams - GWS

Played 12 games last season. His first three games were as the sub and his low scores (8, 26, 3) have hurt his average - 69.6pts - $375,500.

Over his next 9 games (93, 89, 103, 74, 81, 103, 86, 86, 83) he averaged 88.6pts.

I know next to nothing about Williams as a player but checking the GWS board almost everyone has him in the best 22 next year and plenty mention about him rotating through the middle. 2016 will be his 4th season so he should be in prime shape and able to improve his scores again.

Anyone else have any thoughts on him?

 

[Krujan]

I wouldn't mind some feedback on Kade Kolodjashnij as a 3rd (breakout) year Def super-premo in 2016

At TAC level I recall that he was a ball magnet averaging something like 39 possies a game playing across half back & known as an elite ball user, hence being a top 5 pick that year.

Great user by foot with a 2 to 1 kick/handball ratio & 5+ marks a game player. The improvement between 1st and 2nd year as far as possies (mostly kicks) & 20 point SC average increase also can't be ignored. And that's with GCS having a mare of a season in 2015.





I read recently that he's already stepped up to be one of the few genuine leaders at the club, and with a much stronger GCS team in 2016. I just can't see how (injury permitting) that he won't take the next step and become a SC Def super premo this year. His playing attributes are very Heath Shaw like, except that he is taller and quicker and has more of a mature head on his shoulders, age difference withstanding.

My thinking right now is that KK's stats will go up to around 25-26 possies a game and average somewhere between 95-105 in 2016.

 

[Hairy Lager]

I wouldn't mind some feedback on Kade Kolodjashnij QUOTE]

He is very tempting, just the right price at 482k and would fit into my structure very well, one to watch for sure.
I'm finding it hard to spend anymore than 500k on defenders this year but no clear standouts in that category.

 

[Krujan]

I just see KK as having a lot more upside than most of the veteran Def super-premo's who are getting to the point in their careers where they start missing 4-8 weeks for injures that were 1-2 week injuries back in their prime.