2017 AFL Draft Rankings & Selections

[CaptainMurphy]

Sorry you dislike my work. I think not alone in saying that even "draft experts" (e.g. Callum Twomey, Brett Anderson & Terry Wallace) haven't always been right when doing there rankings or mock draft predictions either.

I'm not meaning to have a go, I appreciate the effort. But the poster before me pointed out that your mock doesn't really take into account team needs, and the fact that it's so similar to your rankings shows this. It would be a more interesting mock draft if you though about what each team might need or want rather than just the best player still on the board.

 

[LionKing92]

I'm not meaning to have a go, I appreciate the effort. But the poster before me pointed out that your mock doesn't really take into account team needs, and the fact that it's so similar to your rankings shows this. It would be a more interesting mock draft if you though about what each team might need or want rather than just the best player still on the board.

All good. When i did the mock draft i did take into account needs for each team. As it relates to the rankings, yes some selections did match up by pure luck. Just happened to be the right selection for that team in my opinion.
P.S. I will be changing rankings & mock draft all the way up until draft time. All comments taken on board.

 

[LionKing92]

Do pick 18 and 19 please

Will do them soon as i know who selections they will be after Free Agency & Trade Period. * Currently Lions (18) & Gold Coast (19) - Compensation picks could change this.

 

[briztoon]

Others may disagree. But i don't believe the Lions have made their mind up when it comes to the No. 1 draft selection. Yes there have been hints but they have pick 12 that they could use on a pure midfielder. I have said from day 1, that you should never pick for need at Pick 1 (e.g. Paddy McCartin over Christian Petracca) but best player available. That for me being Cameron Rayner. Not saying that is what the lions think or feel.

Noble and Fagan haven't just given hints, they've spoken openly, on the record as to what type of players and qualities that they will be looking for in the draft. Particularly with the first two picks.

Yet you're first two selections for the Lions totally disregard almost everything that has been said. A mock draft typically takes in to account team needs, and rumours about which have been linked to which clubs.

I'm one of a few Lions fans who have said that Rayner is the best U18 talent in this years draft, yet he's highly unlikely to be drafted by the Lions.

There are multiple, seperate sources that link Paddy Dow to the Lions. Similarly LDU has been linked to GC. Rayner to Carlton and Stephenson to North. If the top of the draft order remains the same, this is where current rumours link the top players. The first variable is the Lions at 1 tossing up between three players, Dow, LDU and Stephenson.

The Lions have also placed an emphasis on speed during multiple interviews about draft prospects. Constable at 12 is as slow as treacle for a midfielder.

On a side note, expect Brander and Hayes to slide to the bottom of the first round (or even out of the first round for Hayes), similar to how Marshall and English slid last year.

Patrick Naish is being talked up as a earlier selection than i have predicted, possibly the 11th or 12th pick. I was being generous with my prediction. I only said 15th pick because he is really good player regardless of him being a Richmond father/son prospect or not.

Who is talking Naish up as an early to mid first round talent? Naish is sliding down most draft boards to be an early to mid second round talent.

 

[Smythe]

Noble and Fagan haven't just given hints, they've spoken openly, on the record as to what type of players and qualities that they will be looking for in the draft. Particularly with the first two picks.

Yet you're first two selections for the Lions totally disregard almost everything that has been said. A mock draft typically takes in to account team needs, and rumours about which have been linked to which clubs.

I'm one of a few Lions fans who have said that Rayner is the best U18 talent in this years draft, yet he's highly unlikely to be drafted by the Lions.

There are multiple, seperate sources that link Paddy Dow to the Lions. Similarly LDU has been linked to GC. Rayner to Carlton and Stephenson to North. If the top of the draft order remains the same, this is where current rumours link the top players. The first variable is the Lions at 1 tossing up between three players, Dow, LDU and Stephenson.

The Lions have also placed an emphasis on speed during multiple interviews about draft prospects. Constable at 12 is as slow as treacle for a midfielder.

On a side note, expect Brander and Hayes to slide to the bottom of the first round (or even out of the first round for Hayes), similar to how Marshall and English slid last year.


Who is talking Naish up as an early to mid first round talent? Naish is sliding down most draft boards to be an early to mid second round talent.

Totally agree. Talent alone, top 20. But when it comes to draft night he would fit into any bottom 8 side however there are 15 -20 kids rated better that you would pick first just as best talent available. Then you look at top 8 sides who will mainly go for best available talent for needs basis. On that note, naish probably wont get bid on until maybe mid second round by, maybe gc, if they keep 1 of there multiple second rounders.

 

[CaptainMurphy]

Noble and Fagan haven't just given hints, they've spoken openly, on the record as to what type of players and qualities that they will be looking for in the draft. Particularly with the first two picks.

Yet you're first two selections for the Lions totally disregard almost everything that has been said. A mock draft typically takes in to account team needs, and rumours about which have been linked to which clubs.

I'm one of a few Lions fans who have said that Rayner is the best U18 talent in this years draft, yet he's highly unlikely to be drafted by the Lions.

There are multiple, seperate sources that link Paddy Dow to the Lions. Similarly LDU has been linked to GC. Rayner to Carlton and Stephenson to North. If the top of the draft order remains the same, this is where current rumours link the top players. The first variable is the Lions at 1 tossing up between three players, Dow, LDU and Stephenson.

The Lions have also placed an emphasis on speed during multiple interviews about draft prospects. Constable at 12 is as slow as treacle for a midfielder.

On a side note, expect Brander and Hayes to slide to the bottom of the first round (or even out of the first round for Hayes), similar to how Marshall and English slid last year.


Who is talking Naish up as an early to mid first round talent? Naish is sliding down most draft boards to be an early to mid second round talent.

Agree with most but re: Naish, Bishop for example says that despite him falling down BF boards there's a few clubs willing to bid high on him.

 

[08elf]

Lions have to take Luke Davies-Uniacke at pick #1. While Rayner is good the Lions midfield now without Rockliff needs some bigger bodied inside players and they don't have any of these coming through. You can see the difference both Bontempelli & Cripps make for their respective teams and for me LDU fits right into that category.

 

[briztoon]

Lions have to take Luke Davies-Uniacke at pick #1. While Rayner is good the Lions midfield now without Rockliff needs some bigger bodied inside players and they don't have any of these coming through. You can see the difference both Bontempelli & Cripps make for their respective teams and for me LDU fits right into that category.

Well we do have Jarrod Berry at 190cm, plus Mathieson.

But yes, LDU should be our first pick.

 

[Hellgood]

Others may disagree. But i don't believe the Lions have made their mind up when it comes to the No. 1 draft selection. Yes there have been hints but they have pick 12 that they could use on a pure midfielder. I have said from day 1, that you should never pick for need at Pick 1 (e.g. Paddy McCartin over Christian Petracca) but best player available. That for me being Cameron Rayner. Not saying that is what the lions think or feel.

You're saying that after what, two years??

Would not be surprised at all to see McCartin become the better player. It's taken Patton three to four years to really get going, in that time plenty were making similar claims about how there were better value draftees that year yet now everyone would give their right nut to have a key forward like that on their list.

 

[08elf]

Well we do have Jarrod Berry at 190cm, plus Mathieson.

But yes, LDU should be our first pick.

I'll give you Berry, although not sold on him slotting into the midfield for his career (half back flank?). Mathieson though he's not 190 and is 3 years older than these 2 boys, i'd suspect he's not going to grow anymore. He also seems to plays very small from what I've seen and perhaps that the in and under pack type player he is. I can't recall him standing up hand balling out of packs or breaking tackles, and his disposal is not near elite.

 

[yaco55]

I wouldn't compare Davies-Uniacke to Dangerfield, he doesn't have the explosiveness or outside game for that comparison, he's more like an Ollie Wines imo

Actually his running style is a dead-ringer for Goddard.

 

[JG22]

Lions have to take Luke Davies-Uniacke at pick #1. While Rayner is good the Lions midfield now without Rockliff needs some bigger bodied inside players and they don't have any of these coming through. You can see the difference both Bontempelli & Cripps make for their respective teams and for me LDU fits right into that category.

Rayner isn't a big bodied inside player?

They're not competing for the now anyway, should pick who they see is best.

 

[08elf]

Rayner isn't a big bodied inside player?

They're not competing for the now anyway, should pick who they see is best.

Never said he was. Just pointing out that those big bodied midfielders I mentioned have game winning ability and more impact on games, there is also a need on the Lions list to fill such a role.

 

[Newatthis]

I think you will find Rayner has the ability to turn a game and lead from the front.

 

[LionKing92]

I have updated my Top 20 Draft Rankings & my First Round Mock Draft. It was tough to work out where things stand but went with my gut on this edition.

 

[Unique Name]

Not sure about Naughton at Pick 5. Every phantom so far has suggested this but I'm wondering if a bit of groupthink is at play.

Our list manager said that we delisted Collins because we had sorted out our backline talls in last year's draft (Logue, Cox) and he was surplus to our needs. He also said the focus this year would be midfielders and forwards.

I guess we'll see if he was telling the truth in a months time.

 

[Snailspace13]

Di

Others may disagree. But i don't believe the Lions have made their mind up when it comes to the No. 1 draft selection. Yes there have been hints but they have pick 12 that they could use on a pure midfielder. I have said from day 1, that you should never pick for need at Pick 1 (e.g. Paddy McCartin over Christian Petracca) but best player available. That for me being Cameron Rayner. Not saying that is what the lions think or feel.

Adelaide have got Pick 12.

 

[Mofra]

I'd love to get Coffield at pick 9, really like the selection but the rumours are that Collingwood are really into him at pick 6.

Rumours on our board suggest at pick 9 we're getting a kid others don't rate as highly - we were willing to trade out to pick 13 as that player will still be there at that pick.

 

[Mofra]

Not sure about Naughton at Pick 5. Every phantom so far has suggested this but I'm wondering if a bit of groupthink is at play.

Our list manager said that we delisted Collins because we had sorted out our backline talls in last year's draft (Logue, Cox) and he was surplus to our needs. He also said the focus this year would be midfielders and forwards.

I guess we'll see if he was telling the truth in a months time.

Would think you'd go close to best available at pick 5 and with Weller out and quality mids there you're right, an attacking mid seems the likely bet.

 

[LionKing92]

Would think you'd go close to best available at pick 5 and with Weller out and quality mids there you're right, an attacking mid seems the likely bet.

They have Pick 2 as well as Pick 5. Will pick a quality mid at Pick 2, therefore allowing them to select the best WA prospect in this draft. My rational.

 

[LionKing92]

Di

Adelaide have got Pick 12.

Read my mock draft and you will clearly see i have changed it to Adelaide.

 

[Obeanie1]

Feel Freo will go for a forward not a defender at 5. Maybe even a forward mid like D Fogarty who is similar to a young Pavlich.

Even though they have two top five picks they used 7 last year on Lougue. So twice in two drafts on kp backs is a big investment back there considering they still havent solved their lack of quality tall forwards.

I do agree with most your other choices though.

Bonar at 13 to the Eagles is a bold move by them if they pounce. But with five picks in the first 37 they can take a risk there. Id be happy if they did.

 

[LionKing92]

Feel Freo will go for a forward not a defender at 5. Maybe even a forward mid like D Fogarty who is similar to a young Pavlich.

Even though they have two top five picks they used 7 last year on Lougue. So twice in two drafts on kp backs is a big investment back there considering they still havent solved their lack of quality tall forwards.

I do agree with most your other choices though.

Bonar at 13 to the Eagles is a bold move by them if they pounce. But with five picks in the first 37 they can take a risk there. Id be happy if they did.

I think Fremantle may end up picking Jarrod Brander [Key Forward] over Aaron Naughton [Key Defender] , Its 50/50 i believe. I just think the safer option is Naughton in "go home" climate we are in at the moment.

 

[LionKing92]

Hi everyone. Just posted my updated Draft Prospect Rankings & Mock Draft. I have extended both the Prospect Rankings to a Top 40. I have also included both the 1st & 2nd Rounds for my Mock Draft. Enjoy.

 

[sydney eagle]

All small players for the Eagles ? Mostly midfielders as well. Okay I can agree that the Eagles NEED midfielders (especially strong, inside types) but plenty of other mock drafts have them going for either a tall forward or defender. Personally I don't mind them taking at least one tall, but not in the first round.