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For those who haven't seen Hunter Clark before there are a couple of you tube clips of him.

He has massive upside and potential..... best way to describe him is a cross between Grant Birchall and Isaac Smith but doesn't kick as well as them but unlike the two ( fore mentioned lefties ) Clark is dual sided by hand and foot, however he is a better over head mark than both of them.
Clarke is super impressive below his knees and I haven't seen too many one touch players better than Clarke.
The stingrays jumper and the hair give me impressions of lamb lol.
 
IMO opinion if we want to land a genuine mid with our first pick we need to miss the eight and get a pick in that 8-10 range. After than they are still good players but at this stage the pure potential A grade mids are off the board.

Why isn't Zac Bailey not rated as highly amongst the mids ..The performance for Allies v Vic Metro was probably the best game by a mid in the championships games that I had watched ..
 
Why isn't Zac Bailey not rated as highly amongst the mids ..The performance for Allies v Vic Metro was probably the best game by a mid in the championships games that I had watched ..

Simple answer as of yet he hasn't produced a body of work that has caught the imagination and its foley to rate a player based on only one game. Like I said in the post its early days and much will change between now and the draft night in November. Remember that this time last year Taranto and Florient were not even considerated first rounders but rose into early first round picks come draft night .
 

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Why isn't Zac Bailey not rated as highly amongst the mids ..The performance for Allies v Vic Metro was probably the best game by a mid in the championships games that I had watched ..

He's also about 180cm in zero gravity and whip thin. Will need 3-4 years worth of development before he is able to make a genuine midfield impact at afl level.
 
I don't think Bailey has half the talent of SPS for one and secondly show me where either of those 2 are having a genuine impact, particularly fisher.

I was just illustrating the perception with development and body size/weight there impact is only marginal at this stage .
 
IMO opinion if we want to land a genuine mid with our first pick we need to miss the eight and get a pick in that 8-10 range. After than they are still good players but at this stage the pure potential A grade mids are off the board.

Missing the top eight doesn't look like a major problem.


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I`m now interested in this guy Jack Petruccelle with our 1st pick ..

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/leader/...s/news-story/2a36d9e6327fa9d92543a8e243c29297


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UNDER 18 WATCH *Old report May 2017

EASTERN Ranges forward Sam Hayes, regarded as one of the best key-position prospects of this year’s draft class, produced his most influential game for the season last weekend, booting 6.1 — four came in the first term — from just eight touches to inspire his team to victory over the Gippsland Power. He also won 18 hit-outs, of which seven went to the advantage of a teammate, to prove his value in the ruck.

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Ranges big man Sam Hayes kicked six goals last weekend.Source: Getty Images
It was an exciting finish in the TAC Cup clash between the Northern Knights and the Dandenong Stingrays, with Knights skipper Nick Coffield booting the match-winning goal late. He kicked another goal during the game to also go with his 22 disposals, six marks and one assist.

For the Stingrays, Tom De Koning and Hunter Clark both enhanced their draft prospects, with De Koning booting three goals from 17 touches. Clark had the ball on a string and boosted his reputation as an inside ball-winner, racking up 34 disposals, 20 contested possessions, 11 clearances, 10 inside 50s, seven tackles and one goal.

There were several other standouts across the weekend.

— Geelong Falcons inside ball-winner James Worpel was very busy in a super display against the Western Jets, booting two goals from 32 disposals, 20 contested possessions, 11 clearances, nine tackles and four assists. It’ll be fascinating to see where Worpel lands in this year’s draft, as pure inside midfielders have either slid (such as Rhys Mathieson and Dylan Clarke) or been shunned altogether.

— Falcons teammate Gryan Miers continued his standout start to the 2017 TAC Cup season, booting 4.2 from 17 disposals, 11 contested possessions and eight tackles. Miers, who runs a 16 in the beep test, has been compared to a young Luke Dahlhaus, not only because of the hair but also because he wins his own footy and hits the scoreboard, highlighted by the fact he’s kicked a league-high 19.6 so far.

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Gryan Miers has been compared to Luke Dahlhaus.Source: Getty Images
— Potential top-five pick Jack Higgins was best on ground for Oakleigh in its win over the Rebels, booting one goal from 28 disposals, 10 contested possessions, four clearances and four assists. As Terry Wallace said, Higgins is a pure “ball hunter” — a trait that would appeal to several AFL clubs.

— And Eastern Ranges on-baller Dylan Moore might be one to monitor. He starred against the Gppsland Power, racking up 35 disposals, 22 contested possessions, 13 tackles and seven clearances to help his side to an important win.

In the WAFL colts, Oscar Allen announced himself with a big game for West Perth, racking up 27 disposals and 11 marks. At 193cm, Allen is an awkward height for opposition players, hence why he’s had stints up forward, on the wing and even in the ruck this season. Think Jack Gunston.

Jake Patmore (Claremont) and Sam Taylor (Swan Districts) are also enhancing their draft prospects in WA this season. Taylor is averaging 20 touches and eight marks per game playing as a key defender, while Patmore is yet to have a game with less than 25 disposals.
 
Was very unimpressive at the carnival IMO, recall him leading out at a footy and dropping a straight forward mark, foot skills were also pretty average. At this time too raw for out 1st pick, doesn't fit our most pressing need.

Basically this is his 1 st year full time focus on footy ,Yes he is raw but it's a good achievement to come from playing mainly basketball as a junior and now converting to footy and making a place on a strong Vic Metro team ..

He has a a lot of upside to his development especially..
 
If there's no genuine quality midfielders available at pick 10 then i agree in addressing the need for a GENUINE small forward.

Don't be bringing that s**t up in here taking X player hybrid who isn't a genuine small.

If we try turning another undersized midfielder into a forward pocket again like Karps, Hams, Priddis, then i might just cry.

Please tell me Higgins won't fall under the latter category Monocle
 

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If there's no genuine quality midfielders available at pick 10 then i agree in addressing the need for a GENUINE small forward.

Don't be bringing that s**t up in here taking X player hybrid who isn't a genuine small.

If we try turning another undersized midfielder into a forward pocket again like Karps, Hams, Priddis, then i might just cry.

Please tell me Higgins won't fall under the latter category Monocle

Can assure you Dark Sharks , Higgins is a genuine midfielder.
He carved WA up in the championships , dominated the midfield (with from memory something like 20 possessions) in the first half.
He is a mid that wins his own ball.
His size for me is not a worry as I have said a few times here he very much reminds me of Jake Grisham at the Saints, who I rate as a quality midfielder.
 
Darcy Fogarty ruled out for the rest of the year with a miniscus tear. Now expect O'brien to pick him up and overlook higgins, who will go onto dominate next season.
 
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-10-03/draft-combine-preview-who-will-impress


Draft Combine preview: Who will impress?

Callum Twomey October 3, 2017 7:00 AM

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Hunter Clark is a strong chance to win the kicking assessment

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THE SEASON is done, but that doesn't mean footy has stopped.

On Tuesday, 85 AFL hopefuls will gather at Etihad Stadium for the start of the NAB AFL Draft Combine, which will run through to Friday.

Across the four days the players from around the country will take part in physical and psychological testing and be interviewed by clubs for what may be the final time before November's draft.

This year's combine looks a little different to previous years, with the famed beep test shuttle run replaced by the 'yo-yo' test, and the 3km time trial shortened to a 2km run.

AFL.com.au will have all the results exclusively as they come to hand during the week, but get up to speed with who could be in the mix to take them out across the week.

Kicking assessment
Test to be held Wednesday night

The handball test has been cut from the combine schedule, but the kicking test remains, where players take six kicks of various distances and angles and on both feet. This test is best for players who are good on their non-preferred foot, meaning Hunter Clark looms as a possible winner given his capacity to kick well over any distance on his preferred right foot and also his left side as well. Lochie O'Brien is also adept on both sides, while Jack Higgins is a very tidy kick on both feet so could be in contention.

Goalkicking assessment
Wednesday night

The goalkicking test has also survived despite some changes in the Combine testing format this year. It will see prospects taking six shots at goal from different areas inside the 50m-arc, including a couple of on-the-run kicks. Gryan Miers has a unique goalkicking action, but kicked seven on Grand Final night for the Geelong Falcons and has a very nifty goal sense, while Jack Higgins will also back himself to go well in this test after proving to be a dead-eye during the year. Oscar Allen booted 11 goals over the under-18 championships for WA and is a steady kick, while Lachlan Fogarty is another smaller type who has shown to be very handy around goal.

Standing vertical jump
Thursday morning
Combine record: Jordan Gallucci (89cm, 2016)

South Australian forward Jordan Houlahan will be a good show here. The marking forward has made a reputation for himself for flying for big grabs near goal, and he never seems to require much of a run up to boost himself towards the ball. Nathan Kreuger is another athletic South Australian who has shown real power in his game so it will be interesting to see how he tests across the week. Victorian defender Noah Balta may also challenge, having played in the ruck at stages this year despite being undersized.

Jordan Houlahan is a contender to win the standing vertical jump. Picture: AFL Photos
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Running vertical jump
Thursday morning
Combine record: Jared Brennan (102cm, 2002)


Fresh from a very good performance in the NAB AFL All Stars clash on Saturday, West Australian Larke medallist Oscar Allen could be one of the favourites for this test. He jumped 93cm in testing earlier this year, which comes through in his long reach when going for marks. Jack Petruccelle is another who should perform well in this test. The talented former basketballer flies for his marks for a shorter player but has genuine spring in his legs.

Sprint
Thursday morning
Combine record: Joel Wilkinson (2.75 seconds, 2010)


All eyes will be on Jack Petruccelle here. The Northern Knights speedster clocked in as the fastest player in the TAC Cup earlier this season when he ran 2.82 seconds over 20 metres. That's elite speed. He could have a challenger in Nick Shipley, though, who tested at 2.84 seconds earlier this year in NSW. Ed Richards, Zac Bailey, Jaidyn Stephenson and Noah Balta are others who could produce good times in the sprint test with powerful movement crucial to their respective games.

Jack Petruccelle (far right) is lightning quick. Picture: AFL Photos
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Agility
Thursday morning
Combine record: Stephen Hill (7.77 seconds, 2008)


Victorian midfielder/half-back Lochie O'Brien was one of the best performed prospects at the TAC Cup testing day earlier this year in the agility run, recording an elite time of 7.91 seconds. Anything under eight seconds in the agility test is good going. Charlie Spargo is still overcoming shoulder surgery but also tested excellently earlier in the year with a 7.83-second run, while Mitchell Podhajski (7.97 seconds), Matthew Ling (7.90 seconds) and Jordan Johnston (7.86 seconds) are others who could be in the mix.

Yo-yo test
Thursday afternoon
New event


The 'yo-yo' test replaces the beep test, so there'll be a new way for prospects' aerobic capacity to be measured. The new test sees players need to run between cones that are 20m apart at timed intervals. Participants have a 10-second recovery period between the 20m sprints where they are required to jog to another cone and then back to the starting point before the next shuttle begins. A prospect's score in the yo-yo test can be presented in total distance run, the level achieved or his maximum rate of oxygen consumption. For instance, reaching level 14.1 in the beep test was considered a very good run. In comparison, a basic conversion of level 14.1 in the beep test to the yo-yo is a level score of 22.2, which would be an accumulated distance of 1160 metres and a VO2 maximum of 61.1. So anything above the score of 22.2 is very good going.

2km time trial
Friday morning
New event


The 2km time trial replaces the 3km time trial which has closed the final event of the combine in recent years. The guys with elite running abilities should still be the clear winners, with Dylan Moore sure to be a chance. Lochie O'Brien has an elite athletics background and has had some time to prepare for the run, while Brayden Ainsworth would be Western Australia's best bet in this category.

Eastern Ranges' Dylan Moore is an excellent runner. Picture: AFL Photos
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http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-10-05/top-prospect-ballenden-kicks-perfect-score-at-combine


Top Prospect Kicks Perfect Score


BRISBANE Lions academy prospect Connor Ballenden showed his excellent foot skills for a key position prospect by posting a perfect score in the kicking test at the NAB AFL Draft Combine.

The 199cm teenager, who could attract a top-20 bid on draft night next month, had a perfect score with his six kicks, recording a 30/30 total.

He was the only player to ace the kicking test, which sees prospects kick to targets at different distances on their preferred and non-preferred foot.

Jack Higgins, Angus Schumacher, Jack Payne, Hayden McLean, Jackson Ross and Ned Reeves all scored 29 to be among the best performed as the testing got underway at Etihad Stadium on Wednesday night.

Ballenden had an inconsistent year and has been used in a number of different roles throughout the season – including in the ruck and across half-back – after starting the year viewed as a possible top-five selection.

Schumacher was also prominent in the goalkicking test, with the Bendigo Pioneers midfielder one of four players to record perfect scores with their five shots.

Jordan Houlahan, Ben Miller and Ross were the others to go through the test without missing a goal, including kicks on the run, as set shots and on their non-preferred side.

Ballenden kicked four goals from five shots, while possible top-10 pick Andrew Brayshaw was also one of seven prospects to kick four goals and a behind from his five attempts.

The athletic screening will begin on Thursday, with jumps, sprints and the new 'Yo-yo' test to take place across the day.

STANDOUT PERFORMERS
Goalkicking test (score out of 30)

Jordan Houlahan 30

Angus Schumacher 30
Jackson Ross 30
Ben Miller 30
Jake Patmore 25
Ryley Stoddart 25
Changkuoth Jiath 25
Andrew Brayshaw 25
Connor Ballenden 25
Aaron Naughton 25
Aiden Bonar 25

Kicking test (score out of 30)

Connor Ballenden 30
Jack Higgins 29
Angus Schumacher 29
Jack Payne 29
Hayden McLean 29
Jackson Ross 29
Ned Reeves 29
Jordan Houlahan 28
Hunter Clark 28
Lloyd Meek 28
 
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Bonar turning heads with stunning Combine results
Callum Twomey October 5, 2017 6:07 PM



AIDEN Bonar has underlined his elite athleticism on day three of the NAB AFL Draft Combine, with the talented prospect equaling the all-time standing vertical jump record.

The Dandenong Stingrays forward, who returned to the field in the middle of this season after two knee reconstructions, jumped 89cm in the test, drawing him level with Jordan Gallucci from last year's combine (Gallucci was drafted by Adelaide at pick No.15 last year).

But Bonar's impressive efforts didn't stop there. He also recorded a 2.90-second 20-metre sprint, placing him equal second in the speed test.

The 18-year-old looms as one of the most interesting prospects to place ahead of next month's NAB AFL Draft on the back of his injury history, but he is strong, powerful and explosive, and has remained in clubs' thoughts during his time on the sidelines.

Some recruiters see him pushing into the top-25 despite his limited exposure because of his knee issues.

Bonar was beaten to the top of the list in the 20-metre sprint by Northern Knights speedster Jack Petruccelle, who ran at 2.87 seconds to highlight is electric turn of pace.

Petruccelle entered the event as the clear favourite and ran 2.88, 2.87 and 2.87 in his three attempts. Kane Farrell impressed at 2.90 seconds, while Ben Miller and Nick Coffield, who both ran at 2.91, were also among the best performers.

Bonar wasn't the only prospect to etch his name into Combine history on Thursday, with Kyron Hayden setting a new record for the running vertical jump after leaping 103cm.

His huge spring saw him overtake the record of 102cm previously held by Nic Naitanui (at the 2008 combine) and Jared Brennan (in 2002).

The excellent testing result came as something of a surprise from the West Australian midfielder, who stands at only 185cm.

He beat out Farrell and high-marking South Australian forward Jordan Houlahan, who both jumped 95cm, and ruckman/forward Hayden McLean (who jumped 92cm).

Farrell, a neat-kicking left footer from the Bendigo Pioneers, and Miller, a tall forward from Western Australia, shared the honours in the agility test by running 8.10 seconds.

Another Bendigo pocket rocket Brent Daniels performed well with his sharp movement to run the agility test over 8.11 seconds.

Standout performers
Smartspeed 20-metre sprint
Jack Petruccelle 2.87 seconds
Kane Farrell 2.90
Aiden Bonar 2.90
Ben Miller 2.91
Nick Coffield 2.91
Ben Paton 2.95
Brent Daniels 2.95
Stefan Okunbar 2.95
Jaidyn Stephenson 2.95
Nicholas Shipley 2.97

Smartspeed agility test
Kane Farrell 8.10 seconds
Ben Miller 8.10
Brent Daniels 8.11
Trent Mynott 8.20
Nathan Kreuger 8.21
Aaron Naughton 8.22
Mitchell Podhajski 8.26
Oscar Allen 8.27
Stefan Okunbar 8.29
Matthew Ling 8.30
Callan England 8.30
Aiden Bonar 8.30
Andrew Brayshaw 8.30

Standing vertical jump
Aiden Bonar 89cm
Kyron Hayden 82cm
Ben Paton 80cm
Harrison Jones 79cm
Jordan Houlahan 77cm
Jordan Johnston 75cm
Jack Petruccelle 74cm
Noah Balta 74cm
Adam Sambono 73cm
Hayden McLean 73cm

Running vertical jump
Kyron Hayden 103cm
Kane Farrell 95cm
Jordan Houlahan 95cm
Hayden McLean 92cm
Noah Balta 89cm
Harrison Jones 88cm
Oscar Allen 88cm
Tom McCartin 88cm
Matthew Day 87cm
Nathan Kreuger 87cm

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The story of the day 3 at the Combine is the performances of Subiaco prospects Kyron Hayden who has tested and smashed Nicnats Running Vertical Jump record and heading into the U 18 champs he was expected to shine but had a poor carnival ..Ben Miller could be a Smokey is testing very well and also has had to commute from Kalgoorlie to play colts footy for Subiaco .


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My phantom picks for wce ..

Pick 13 ?
CharlieConstable —Hunter Clark -Oscar Allen Jack Higgins

Pick 21?
Jordan Houlihan -Lachie O brien

Pick 26?
Zac Bailey -Jack Petruccelle

Pick 32?
Tim Kelly-Dylan Moore ,Charlie Spargo

Pick 37?
Ben Miller -Ryley Stoddart-Gryan Miers

Pick 69?
Willie Walker -Liam Ryan -Bailey Banfield - Hayden Sloithe

Rookies ??

Kyron Hayden
Jake Patmore
Callan England
Patrick Farrent
Aaron Trusler
Mitch Crowden

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My phantom picks for wce ..

Pick 13 ?
CharlieConstable —Hunter Clark -Oscar Allen Jack Higgins

Pick 21?
Jordan Houlihan -Lachie O brien

Pick 26?
Zac Bailey -Jack Petruccelle

Pick 32?
Tim Kelly-Dylan Moore ,Charlie Spargo

Pick 37?
Ben Miller -Ryley Stoddart-Gryan Miers

Pick 69?
Willie Walker -Liam Ryan -Bailey Banfield - Hayden Sloithe

Rookies ??

Kyron Hayden
Jake Patmore
Callan England
Patrick Farrent
Aaron Trusler
Mitch Crowden

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