Analysis 2018 List Management discussion Pt 2

[Masqualero]

1 2nd is too much imo

If we were able to get him fit who would be ahead?

He'd be 28 next year.

A second rounder for someone as good as DH pending medical is a good deal IMO, it is not like he is 30.

 

[Juddernaut08]

When you think about it how many AFL players actually run and bounce carrying to ball at full speed? Most names coming up would be wingers. Now midfielders? Only Danger's name comes to mind. We have a kid who uses his speed and burst and isn't afraid to use it and will only get better and better as he realises what he can do. Dow is 18 years old...which is simply amazing.

Didnt realise he was so damn young. thought he was 19

 

[Juddernaut08]

After reviewing videos of Walsh, he plays a lot of Bryce Gibbs. He won't win you a game but will consistently get 20 possessions and has no pace. Will probably become B grade like Bryce Gibbs.

I think we need to take Lukosius would has everything to become A grade.

Lol wtf. Very disrespectful to Bryce.

 

[F_therest]

Gee SOS did well getting curnow and mckay.

They are looking like a strong partnership once further developed and we have a better midfield for supply.

Hipwood looks good but both schache and weideman are struggling.

 

[BuxbaumBixby]

Just... beautiful.

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Will be showing it to my year 8 English class doing poetry right now.

How did they rate it?

(and FWIW - as poignant and insightful as many of my musings are on here - for anyone who has seen the movie 'idiot box' (highly under-rated low-budget aussie film from the 90's) ... that was the genesis for the 'poem' and it was very much tongue-in-cheek)

 

[Red Bull]

O'Shea Mullet Kerridge Graham Shaw Rowe A.Silvagni JGM all delisted.

Pick 1 for pick 3 and Brodie
Picks 23&25 for Norths 1st rounder
PP granted

In:
ND: pick 3 ... Rankine
ND: Norths 1st ... ?
ND: 4th rounder ... B.Silvagni
RD: Collins
PP: traded for ... Setterfield
FA: Fasolo
Traded: Brodie
Traded: Shiel (2019 1st rounder)

Simpson Weitering Plowman
Docherty Marchbank Williamson
SPS Cripps O'Brien
Murphy Curnow Fasolo
Rankine McKay Pickett

Kruezer Shiel Dow

Kennedy Fisher Setterfield Brodie

 

[Tyruddanaut]

How many of each position do we need?

3 ruck + 1 2ndary
10 Forward + 6 2nd
11 defense + 5 2nd
16 mids?
Not including rookies. Is that fair?

 

[Faz 2000]

Dow is 18 years old...which is simply amazing.

Not THAT amazing. Many of our under 20s are 18.

 

[HereComesJuddy]

If we were able to get him fit who would be ahead?

He'd be 28 next year.

A second rounder for someone as good as DH pending medical is a good deal IMO, it is not like he is 30.

He could be a bargain! But... i feel he would actually cost a mid 1st. Sydney wont let him leave for a 2nd.

 

[Stefchook]

Gee SOS did well getting curnow and mckay.

They are looking like a strong partnership once further developed and we have a better midfield for supply.

Hipwood looks good but both schache and weideman are struggling.

Agree with you about Charlie and Harry. But Schache is not struggling anymore. Starting to look pretty good now for a very young kpf. Doesn't have the ceiling of our guys though.

 

[katmanblue]

The Suns ‘want’ Levi

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[DangerousD]

I just want to say this.

I had glandular fever which became chronic fatigue. This stopped me dead in the tracks from 16 to 18. My Dad then died and 3 months later I found myself caring for a dying mother 24/7 (she refused medical help as multiple doctors advised that there was nothing that could help her) until a week before my 22nd birthday when she died. Clearly, I didn't have an education (highest was Year 10 when she died). Since then, I've gotten my Year 12 completed, worked overseas in professional sport, and now have 3 university degrees to my name.

The way that I see it, he's poured his energy into becoming a high level athlete, has played 16 games (and counting) in his first professional season for the reigning premiers who are going to win the minor premiership. If he applies himself to his career as much as he already has done he will have earned a significant amount of career earnings by the time that he's 23-25 (if he has a 5-7 year career, if he has longer he's laughing).

He's so far ahead of where I was at and I think, for the most part, I came out of everything pretty well all things considered. He can go back to school, get his year 12 or even do a tertiary level degree in something that he's passionate about and launch a successful post-football career.

Not completing high school by the age of 18 isn't for everyone nor does it necessarily state that a young bloke is immature or lazy. I believe it will become something that is considered more beneficial for guys with big league careers ahead of them. Drop out of school, get professional coaching and be fully prepared for the professional level. I know plenty of people who finish high school and have the mentality of a six year old while I know plenty of people who were never academics and are highly professional people.

Here here. Totally agree, not sure if you saw my other comments on Higgins or the poster who suggested he was dense for dropping out of school but the above post you have quoted, i think you have misinterpreted, more likely is me leaving out a comma.

I was suggesting that it looks stupid that he was knocked for not finishing school not that him not finishing was stupid.

I really liked your story though

 

[PrinceCharles]

After reviewing videos of Walsh, he plays a lot of Bryce Gibbs. He won't win you a game but will consistently get 20 possessions and has no pace. Will probably become B grade like Bryce Gibbs.

I think we need to take Lukosius would has everything to become A grade.

Have you watched videos of Lukosius yet? When you do let me know and I'll tell SOS.

 

[ShanDog]

How did they rate it?

(and FWIW - as poignant and insightful as many of my musings are on here - for anyone who has seen the movie 'idiot box' (highly under-rated low-budget aussie film from the 90's) ... that was the genesis for the 'poem' and it was very much tongue-in-cheek)

Working it into a lesson plan...

 

[Juddernaut08]

Gee SOS did well getting curnow and mckay.

They are looking like a strong partnership once further developed and we have a better midfield for supply.

Hipwood looks good but both schache and weideman are struggling.

Could have had Hipwood and Charlie. Imagine that!

Happy with McKay though, has come a long way this last 2 months.

 

[Jeremias]

Could have had Hipwood and Charlie. Imagine that!

Happy with McKay though, has come a long way this last 2 months.

Hipwood was a member of Brisbane's academy, so that couldn't have happened.

 

[Juddernaut08]

I just want to say this.

I had glandular fever which became chronic fatigue. This stopped me dead in the tracks from 16 to 18. My Dad then died and 3 months later I found myself caring for a dying mother 24/7 (she refused medical help as multiple doctors advised that there was nothing that could help her) until a week before my 22nd birthday when she died. Clearly, I didn't have an education (highest was Year 10 when she died). Since then, I've gotten my Year 12 completed, worked overseas in professional sport, and now have 3 university degrees to my name.

The way that I see it, he's poured his energy into becoming a high level athlete, has played 16 games (and counting) in his first professional season for the reigning premiers who are going to win the minor premiership. If he applies himself to his career as much as he already has done he will have earned a significant amount of career earnings by the time that he's 23-25 (if he has a 5-7 year career, if he has longer he's laughing).

He's so far ahead of where I was at and I think, for the most part, I came out of everything pretty well all things considered. He can go back to school, get his year 12 or even do a tertiary level degree in something that he's passionate about and launch a successful post-football career.

Not completing high school by the age of 18 isn't for everyone nor does it necessarily state that a young bloke is immature or lazy. I believe it will become something that is considered more beneficial for guys with big league careers ahead of them. Drop out of school, get professional coaching and be fully prepared for the professional level. I know plenty of people who finish high school and have the mentality of a six year old while I know plenty of people who were never academics and are highly professional people.

Inspirational stuff Wickzki, cheers.

 

[Juddernaut08]

Hipwood was a member of Brisbane's academy, so that couldn't have happened.

Thats comforting in a strange way. Other than academy looks like we got 2 of the best forwards in a kpp loaded draft.

 

[The Old Dark Navy's]

Not THAT amazing. Many of our under 20s are 18.

An even larger percentage of our under 19s are 18.

 

[Juddernaut08]

An even larger percentage of our under 19s are 18.

An even higher percentage of our U18s are both under 19 AND under 20 too.

 

[Juddernaut08]

How many of each position do we need?

3 ruck + 1 2ndary
10 Forward + 6 2nd
11 defense + 5 2nd
16 mids?
Not including rookies. Is that fair?

More mids

 

[The Old Dark Navy's]

An even higher percentage of our U18s are both under 19 AND under 20 too.

Under 18, not 18 and under. That would be 0% for all.

 

[Juddernaut08]

Right now? I think there is a perception he is cooked, i think if we offered 2 seconds that may get it done.
His last year wasn't as good as the year before and this has been his worst season by far.
You wouldn't need a first surely given the situation around why his name is being floated around as a trade target.

two 2nds? do you know freo gave up one second rounder and a late round pick swap?

Id take wilson every day of the week over dahlhaus and three times on Sunday.

3rd rounder for Dahl at most imo

 

[The Old Dark Navy's]

More mids

 

[The Old Dark Navy's]

two 2nds? do you know freo gave up one second rounder and a late round pick swap?

Id take wilson every day of the week over dahlhaus and three times on Sunday.

3rd rounder for Dahl at most imo

Good call on Sundays. We'll probably be playing then a lot next year.