2018 Prospects / Never again list

[Migzeh]

Sheed to easily be #1 inside mid next year. Practically taken over priddis. Will only grow. 22 disposals tonight for 127. (maybe take 20~ points for 2 goals) and 100+ for 22 is still really good.

 

[Seymour Skinner]

Sheed to easily be #1 inside mid next year. Practically taken over priddis. Will only grow. 22 disposals tonight for 127. (maybe take 20~ points for 2 goals) and 100+ for 22 is still really good.

30 and 31 posies over the last two weeks too.
Was one of my draft trade ins this week to avoid a donut, hopefully I'll be able to ship him off to some dunce for a handy defender of he keeps up his good form.

 

[Daniel McL]

Def: Docherty, Laird, Jones/Lloyd/Mills, Z. Guthrie.

Mid: Danger, Z. Merrett, Bont, Blakely/Weller, Sheed.

Ruc: Gawn/Kreuzer, Nic Nat.

Fwd: Dusty, R. Gray, Petracca, Ahern, Gregson.

 

[Faz 2000]

Imagine a full premo forward line next season:
Danger, Dusty, Bont, Buddy, Heeney, Greene.
That's 700+ points every round just from Forwards.

Not unrealistic, really. The first three big guns have all spent whole quarters in up forward, etc.

 

[Hairy Lager]

Def: Docherty, Laird, Roberton, Shooter, JJ (at Freo), J Smith

Mid: Danger, Z. Merrett, Bont, Oliver, Fyfe (at the Saints), Heeney, Sheed, Billings, Ahern, Hibberd, Venebles

Ruc: Nic Nat, Nank

Fwd: Dusty, R. Gray, T Lynch, Petracca, Daniher, W Rioli, Gregson, Cameron

 

[Faz 2000]

Be interesting to see where some of the big gun rucks are at by end of year and priced into next: eg. Gawn, Goldy even Grundy (who I think is seriously going to put up some monster numbers sometime soon).

 

[gcsunsfc]

How's his recovery going?

Not sure to be honest
I watch every game but don't know much about what goes on outside of that

 

[Daniel McL]

Might be controversial but...

Never again: Buddy Franklin

Even though Tom J Lynch has spectacular fails at times too at least we know he'll be pumping out 100's consistently once the Suns improve & their midfield kick it to him better.

At this rate if I was going to pick a KPF in 2018 (highly unlikely assuming Dusty, R. Gray are FWD/MID) it would be Daniher.

 

[Daniel McL]

Also if Goldy gets traded end of this year, will take a good look at Preuss in 2018.

 

[Glorin]

Maynard tries hard but turns/butchers the ball far too much to be SC relevant.
Doubt Daicos plays senior footy this year. He's not AFL ready yet. Gotta build that cardio tank and work on his defensive skills. Kirby was another who I thought may get a game or two but Bucks has already squashed that in a recent presser saying he needs further development in the twos. Aside from the usual suspects maybe DeGoey is one who can take a step next year.

DeGoey strikes me as one of those players that promisses a lot but never delivers, gets delisted/traded for little and then does really well elsewhere. Think its an attitude thing with him.

 

[go you pups]

Imagine a full premo forward line next season:
Danger, Dusty, Bont, Buddy, Heeney, Greene.
That's 700+ points every round just from Forwards.

As optimistic as that may be, there's no way I see Danger getting forward status until he's like 31-32 and not playing full time mid anymore, he just averages way too much and I doubt Dusty and Bont get it also.

I can maybe see Fyfe getting it though.

As a previous reference, Swannie spent a lot of time FWD in 2012, never got FWD status until 2015 because he didn't average much the year before and missed a few through injury I think.

 

[go you pups]

U'd know better than me but in the games ive seen have seen Danger is spending alot more time up forward than Dusty has. His increased goal tally also suports this.

Bont has been playing up forward a fair bit too

Gray and Fyfe are way ahead of Danger, Dusty and Bont for FWD status imo.


Bont played whole games at CHF last year and wasn't even given FWD status, see his games against North and St Kilda late in the season for example.

 

[Glorin]

U'd know better than me but in the games ive seen have seen Danger is spending alot more time up forward than Dusty has. His increased goal tally also suports this.

Bont has been playing up forward a fair bit too

My starting fwd line 2018:
Danger, Dusty, Bont, R Gray, rookie, rookie, campainer dpp mid, campainer dpp ruck.

 

[go you pups]

DeGoey strikes me as one of those players that promisses a lot but never delivers, gets delisted/traded for little and then does really well elsewhere. Think its an attitude thing with him.

Not sure about attitude, even though he was suspended for lying. Imo more so opportunity could go against him unless he becomes a competent forward half player. There's a heap of mids ahead of him in the order at the moment, he'll have to make it as a high half forward type for now.

 

[Glorin]

I agree that they've both played enough to warrant a DPP status too, but CD are campaigners and won't let them all be DPP can't see them letting the leading point scorer Dangerman get it. Nothing to do with his actual performances, just from them being scumbags and playing the "it's not fun" card.

Remember at the start of the year when some people thought it was a good thing that all the gun DPPs got axed (most of them were fair, but Zorko should of kept it FFS), turns out we all still pick the same 6 forwards, we just all end up with lower scores lol.

Yep I agree with this. Its much better with the dpps around as its much harder to get all these players in. This year the fwds are cheap and every team is the same. All teams have at least 5 def the same and more than half the midfields are the same.
A greater amount of Dpp positions means more variety in teams, not the other way round.

 

[go you pups]

From the Doggies

Bailey Williams I feel will have a very big future running off HB. Whether he's ready next year is the thing, but the opportunity will be there for him once Moyd and Murph retire (Moyd surely retires this year).

If Caleb Daniel retains FWD status he could be worth a look

Surely Dahlhaus becomes a straight mid finally though and I'd imagine Macrae loses his DPP too (dunno why he got it in the first place).

With the way we play with the over handball use type of game, we won't have too many who are SC relevant probably except Bont and maybe Daniel if FWD.

 

[hoddo]

I thought SC positions were based on heat maps from the previous season, not on scores, with the % of game time mids spent up forward deciding whether they got DPP. If that's the case I'd expect RGray would be Forward only, Dusty Mid only, Fyfe, Mundy and perhaps Bont fair chances for DPP and Danger an outside chance at best.

 

[hoddo]

From the Doggies

Bailey Williams I feel will have a very big future running off HB. Whether he's ready next year is the thing, but the opportunity will be there for him once Moyd and Murph retire (Moyd surely retires this year).

If Caleb Daniel retains FWD status he could be worth a look

Surely Dahlhaus becomes a straight mid finally though and I'd imagine Macrae loses his DPP too (dunno why he got it in the first place).

With the way we play with the over handball use type of game, we won't have too many who are SC relevant probably except Bont and maybe Daniel if FWD.

Agree that Dahl and Macrae will lose DPP.

It's a real shame MBoyd didn't retire at the end of last season. He wouldn't have been stinking up my team all season if he had.
Certainly a "never again" for me if he does play on.

 

[go you pups]

Agree that Dahl and Macrae will lose DPP.

It's a real shame MBoyd didn't retire at the end of last season. He wouldn't have been stinking up my team all season if he had.
Certainly a "never again" for me if he does play on.

Boyd is absolutely cooked

He can't hit a target anymore, it unfortunately has gone past him very quickly.

He probably should have gone out on a high last year, I feel Biggs has a lot more to offer us currently in a similar playing role. (Dunno, Biggs may even be fantasy relevant some time, he looked it early last season then tapered off).

 

[go you pups]

Agree that Dahl and Macrae will lose DPP.

It's a real shame MBoyd didn't retire at the end of last season. He wouldn't have been stinking up my team all season if he had.
Certainly a "never again" for me if he does play on.

How you see Petracca next year?

The Dees will be very fantasy football relevant next year I feel, but we'll be paying full price for a lot options from them.

 

[hoddo]

How you see Petracca next year?

The Dees will be very fantasy football relevant next year I feel, but we'll be paying full price for a lot options from them.

It's sad about Boyd. It always is when good players play on too long and end on a bad note.

Petracca could be anything. He's almost impossible to tackle and he'll get more midfield time as he matures. I see him developing into a pacier version of JPK. He'll still be a fwd in SC next year and he'll certainly be in my starting team.

I thought the Dees would be fantasy relevant this year and they have been to a large extent. I had Oliver and Petracca in my team up until round 1 and then took then both out because I was too wary of my supporter bias.

 

[go you pups]

It's sad about Boyd. It always is when good players play on too long and end on a bad note.

Yeah it happens

Enright and Bartel made the right call it seems down the highway, going out while still contributing, particularly Enright. Tuohy has done well to step into his shoes though.

Petracca could be anything. He's almost impossible to tackle and he'll get more midfield time as he matures. I see him developing into a pacier version of JPK. He'll still be a fwd in SC next year and he'll certainly be in my starting team.

Yeah he could be another young Dangerfield type

I thought the Dees would be fantasy relevant this year and they have been to a large extent. I had Oliver and Petracca in my team up until round 1 and then took then both out because I was too wary of my supporter bias.

I had Gawn......

Worked out well captaining him in R3 when my VC spudded up

But yeah, Oliver was a little unexpected going nuts in his 2nd year, thought maybe a 90 average from him, but he'll likely average 3 figures easily, a great effort from him. Hibberd was on the preseason radar, but obviously got injured so had to look elsewhere.

You do have a few PODs at the moment, but we'll be expecting more next year.

 

[Glorin]

Not sure about attitude, even though he was suspended for lying. Imo more so opportunity could go against him unless he becomes a competent forward half player. There's a heap of mids ahead of him in the order at the moment, he'll have to make it as a high half forward type for now.

Thats what I mean about attitude. Gets by on talent, but if he worked really hard he would easily be best 22. If he is good enough and able to run through the mids he would get a shot.

 

[hoddo]

Yeah it happens

Enright and Bartel made the right call it seems down the highway, going out while still contributing, particularly Enright. Tuohy has done well to step into his shoes though.

Yeah he could be another young Dangerfield type


I had Gawn......

Worked out well captaining him in R3 when my VC spudded up

But yeah, Oliver was a little unexpected going nuts in his 2nd year, thought maybe a 90 average from him, but he'll likely average 3 figures easily, a great effort from him. Hibberd was on the preseason radar, but obviously got injured so had to look elsewhere.

You do have a few PODs at the moment, but we'll be expecting more next year.

Yes Max going down was a big loss for the team and for SC.

POD wise for next year, the other one at Melbourne who's going to be a star is Salem. Just needs a SC friendly role to return massive scores. Of the rest Brayshaw could be very good if he can overcome his concussion issues and I have a sneaky suspicion Neal-Bullen might be one of those players who will go from handy to extremely good one day .... anyone's guess when though.

 

[go you pups]

Yes Max going down was a big loss for the team and for SC.

POD wise for next year, the other one at Melbourne who's going to be a star is Salem. Just needs a SC friendly role to return massive scores. Of the rest Brayshaw could be very good if he can overcome his concussion issues and I have a sneaky suspicion Neal-Bullen might be one of those players who will go from handy to extremely good one day .... anyone's guess when though.

Salem was looking DT relevant in the first 5-6 rounds, then dropped off.

But could be one for the future definitely.