List Mgmt. 2019 Draft/Trade/FA Thread - Final Wrap

[thurls64]

If Evans can ink the Burgoyne deal straight up as is reported it will set the tone for us for the rest of the trade period and certainly will influence anyone who is still deciding whether to come to us, hoping they can get it done and announced ASAP

Wonder when our delistings are published, I thought last year they started announcing them straight after the last round was done?

 

[Jen2310]

If Evans can ink the Burgoyne deal straight up as is reported it will set the tone for us for the rest of the trade period and certainly will influence anyone who is still deciding whether to come to us, hoping they can get it done and announced ASAP

Wonder when our delistings are published, I thought last year they started announcing them straight after the last round was done?

They may start to trickle through, their exit meetings will be this week.

 

[Mini GF]

Martin joins the list of bedwetters to be despised and boo’d.
You either fight fight fight or you GAGF out of our beautiful community and take the weak pathway.

We will see if he’s the first one ever to be a person of integrity and nominate a state rather than an individual club.

 

[Jirik13]

Brisbane chasing Ah Chee?

Meanwhile the Suns are also hoping to keep former top ten draft pick Callum Ah Chee.
The club felt it was close to signing the 2015 Pick 8 two months ago but he is yet to put pen to paper
Brisbane is reportedly chasing the West Australian, helped by the fact he is in a long-term relationship with a Queensland local.

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/af...n/news-story/65f0208ea5160838b17b47a05a9b931a

 

[SandyToes]

Martin joins the list of bedwetters to be despised and boo’d.
You either fight fight fight or you GAGF out of our beautiful community and take the weak pathway.

We will see if he’s the first one ever to be a person of integrity and nominate a state rather than an individual club.

Did May request Melbourne?
Wow those 2 years at Grammar must have burned bright for him lel

 

[Mini GF]

Did May request Melbourne?
Wow those 2 years at Grammar must have burned bright for him lel

Did Martin do 2 years at Melbourne Grammar too?

 

[Mini GF]

Did May request Melbourne?
Wow those 2 years at Grammar must have burned bright for him lel

Yes May did.

 

[Jen2310]

When was the last time a player requested a state? Usually unless you have a reason to go back to a certain club (aka Beams) most are courted by a number of clubs and make up their mind which to go to. Then its the clubs to work out a deal.

 

[Iva Bigun]

A few reports this morning about Burgoyne to the suns on a 3 yr playing and coaching setup is guaranteed and already agreed to by all parties. I think this will be the first piece of the puzzle of the hawthorn injection to the suns this off season.


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3 years for Burgoyne awesome he can celebrate his 50th up here

 

[Jen2310]

Rumour has it that Burgoyne is trying to convince Cyril Rioli to join him at the suns.

 

[Mini GF]

When was the last time a player requested a state? Usually unless you have a reason to go back to a certain club (aka Beams) most are courted by a number of clubs and make up their mind which to go to. Then its the clubs to work out a deal.

Probably never. My point is that it would show that the persons reasons for leaving are genuine rather than just chasing easy success.
It would be what a person of honour would do in order to say thanks to his club he is leaving.

But since the bedwetters don’t have any honour it should be an AFL rule. You get to only nominate a state not an individual club.
Nominating individual clubs destroys the bargaining power of us clubs down the bottom that these weaklings run away from.

 

[Mini GF]

Rumour has it that Burgoyne is trying to convince Cyril Rioli to join him at the suns.

Hard to believe but where’s this rumour emanating from?

 

[Jen2310]

Probably never. My point is that it would show that the persons reasons for leaving are genuine rather than just chasing easy success.
It would be what a person of honour would do in order to say thanks to his club he is leaving.

But since the bedwetters don’t have any honour it should be an AFL rule. You get to only nominate a state not an individual club.
Nominating individual clubs destroys the bargaining power of us clubs down the bottom that these weaklings run away from.

I do get your point, I've just never seen it happen like that before. When players leave for whatever reason, they seem to nominate a club that best fits them, or for whatever reason. Obviously there is discussion between the time its announced and when it gets done, so that both parties come to a discussion that a deal can be made.

 

[Jen2310]

Hard to believe but where’s this rumour emanating from?

Oh, take with a grain of salt. A friend told me he heard it. Probably won't happen though, just figure I would mention it.

 

[Iva Bigun]

Bringing in old guys on multi year deals who are looking for a superannuation boost is IMO a massive mistake

I know we need leadership but when it’s out Martin and Achee for old man Burgoyne the sum is a massive net loss. He has 1 year in him at best, when he has to chase as our skills aren’t up to it his age will be exposed
Call me negative but book mark this post. The future will dictate if I am a prophet or peanut

 

[GcSunsfan]

Rumour has it that Burgoyne is trying to convince Cyril Rioli to join him at the suns.

Let’s do a country footy deal with Rioli get him to look after our new Darwin zone during the week and fly him in and out for Suns games

 

[kreglze]

Bringing in old guys on multi year deals who are looking for a superannuation boost is IMO a massive mistake

I know we need leadership but when it’s out Martin and Achee for old man Burgoyne the sum is a massive net loss. He has 1 year in him at best, when he has to chase as our skills aren’t up to it his age will be exposed
Call me negative but book mark this post. The future will dictate if I am a prophet or peanut

On exposed form, Burgoyne has more effect on the games he has played this year over Martin and Ah Chee is almost a non factor because he can't get out on the park. At least for next season anyway, I believe it will be a positive for us.

Unfortunetly it isn't like FIFA or Madden where you can chuck a bunch of young players together and watch them develop, they need leadership and experience around them.

 

[MarcLocksCrustySock]

Bringing in old guys on multi year deals who are looking for a superannuation boost is IMO a massive mistake

I know we need leadership but when it’s out Martin and Achee for old man Burgoyne the sum is a massive net loss. He has 1 year in him at best, when he has to chase as our skills aren’t up to it his age will be exposed
Call me negative but book mark this post. The future will dictate if I am a prophet or peanut

Worked for Brisbane.

 

[eppo67]

Worked for Brisbane.

Bringing in old guys on multi year deals who are looking for a superannuation boost is IMO a massive mistake

I know we need leadership but when it’s out Martin and Achee for old man Burgoyne the sum is a massive net loss. He has 1 year in him at best, when he has to chase as our skills aren’t up to it his age will be exposed
Call me negative but book mark this post. The future will dictate if I am a prophet or peanut

He's coming in for a specific purpose.
Leadership and a move into coaching it's not as a list saviour.

 

[Jen2310]

If you watched last week's hawks game against eagles, you can see Shaun still has it. 3 goals.
He is also the sort of player who can play anywhere.

 

[Mini GF]

Bringing in old guys on multi year deals who are looking for a superannuation boost is IMO a massive mistake

I know we need leadership but when it’s out Martin and Achee for old man Burgoyne the sum is a massive net loss. He has 1 year in him at best, when he has to chase as our skills aren’t up to it his age will be exposed
Call me negative but book mark this post. The future will dictate if I am a prophet or peanut

I agree with you. This philosophy with the GC NRL teams over the last 30 years has been useless.
We need the best kids and we need to develop and keep them.

 

[OB11]

On exposed form, Burgoyne has more effect on the games he has played this year over Martin and Ah Chee is almost a non factor because he can't get out on the park. At least for next season anyway, I believe it will be a positive for us.

Unfortunetly it isn't like FIFA or Madden where you can chuck a bunch of young players together and watch them develop, they need leadership and experience around them.

Amen - we could just find another GHS or Murdoch and pay them money for SFA.

We could draft a ton of kids and not put any leadership around them, oh wait that's so 2011.

If Burgoyne is cooked he is already signed to coach so the risk is pretty limited in terms of salary cap hit.

We could give Burgoyne's money (if he'd take it) to keep Ah Chee to not play and not provide any leadership.

Someone has to try something so why not.

 

[eppo67]

I agree with you. This philosophy with the GC NRL teams over the last 30 years has been useless.
We need the best kids and we need to develop and keep them.

Bods we have heaps of kids he will be much better than GHS etc to DEVELOP kids because he has SKILLS.

 

[Peel67skin]

Hombsch battled manfully but he is classic depth player.



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How many players you want play in NEAFl.
Thompson, Collins, Ballard, Hombsh, Burgess, Graham.?

With Thompson Collins all coming back from injuries
The AFL back line could be Thompson, Collins, Ballard,
With Graham, Hombsh, Burgess playing Neafl.. Not yet include King and Luko ( both can play both end) AFL/Neafl

 

[Jen2310]

Burgoyne has one thing none of the players have. Experience in finals. grand finals. has 4 premierships. That kind of experience is so underrated.