2019 Trade thread

[Fagenslions36]

On Elliott, agree with others who said it smells of him using it as a negotiating tactic to get a better deal.

Pies are stupid if they break the bank on Elliot so many more important players they should be holding onto .

 

[werdna78]

Does get in the news a fair bit so he may like the media hype which he will not get that in Brisbane.

IMO, from what I've seen Elliott doesn't like the media. He would get lots from being part of Collingwood, not because he might seek it out.

Brisbane would be perfect if he wants to get away from that.

 

[Surly Boy]

On Elliott, agree with others who said it smells of him using it as a negotiating tactic to get a better deal.

Dunno.

Could be a tactic, but:
- given he hasn't signed,
-their B&F has passed, and
-he is rumoured to now be on holidays and away from media;
it seems he could actually be set to leave.

If I was a Pies supporter, I would be worried about keeping him.

 

[martinson]

So what happens if the game plan in the forward line doesn't include a forward to lead as you refer to? At least 3 of the 4 forwards we have can all play the role of a "leading forward" but is that the game plan that has been set? If we improve our delivery into the forward 50, our forwards can become pretty capable of leading into space. To me, that's the problem, not our forwards.

It's a chicken and egg thing I agree . You'd hardly think our gameplan would preclude leading . If you've got a guy who leads hard and well with good judgement about when to do it delivery can magically improve. Part of our gameplan seemed to involve kicking long or randomly to a pocket and for whatever reason that didn't stand up as well against the better teams when real pressure was on.

 

[abcde12345]

With Gold Coast having an abundance of high end draft pics this year and likely to get good pic for Martin , any chance they accept a future second or future 3rd for ah chee . Next years draft isn’t meant to me as strong but they may like to spread these pics over a few years rather then one big hit . They also gonna have two top 10 picks next year.

They don't have a second this year and I am under the impression they are intending on flipping the Ah Chee pick straight to Adelaide for Greenwood.

 

[Fagenslions36]

They got 1 , 2, 15 , 20 plus Martin pick that’s a massive haul

 

[Dalions]

It's a chicken and egg thing I agree . You'd hardly think our gameplan would preclude leading . If you've got a guy who leads hard and well with good judgement about when to do it delivery can magically improve. Part of our gameplan seemed to involve kicking long or randomly to a pocket and for whatever reason that didn't stand up as well against the better teams when real pressure was on.

It was a game plan that we switched to after the bye to minimise turnovers. And for predictability for the team.
It worked for 9 straight weeks, it was good enough to beat Geelong, it almost got us to a preliminary final.
There will be tweaks to the game plan next year which is only natural. Another player or 2 will help especially if we can get some run out of the back half and deliver the ball more quickly into the forward line, which is when leading will become more a necessity.
It’s hard to lead when there are 36 bodies camped in 1 half of the ground.

 

[jackess]

With Gold Coast having an abundance of high end draft pics this year and likely to get good pic for Martin , any chance they accept a future second or future 3rd for ah chee . Next years draft isn’t meant to me as strong but they may like to spread these pics over a few years rather then one big hit . They also gonna have two top 10 picks next year.

I don’t think we’d want to do that

I think we’d rather use this years picks in a trade. I can’t see us taking too many in the draft this year. List spots are tight.

 

[David C]

Sounds like Cutler is as good as gone. Would be worth only a late pick you would think.

Collingwood board had a rumour of Cutler for Scharenberg. Don't know how reliable it is.

 

[Macca225]

IMO, from what I've seen Elliott doesn't like the media. He would get lots from being part of Collingwood, not because he might seek it out.

Brisbane would be perfect if he wants to get away from that.

Loved his response of "can't be bothered" to a request for an interview

 

[martinson]

Collingwood board had a rumour of Cutler for Scharenberg. Don't know how reliable it is.

Interested to see who actually wants Cutler. We've had 5 or 6 teams mentioned but nothing firm yet.

I'd love him to stay ,he's more versatile than people think in my view but it as to be mutual doesn't it.

 

[jackess]

Collingwood board had a rumour of Cutler for Scharenberg. Don't know how reliable it is.

Would be a great get. Would trade Cutler and gold coasts second for Scharenberg.

 

[Nunez]

Would be a great get. Would trade Cutler and gold coasts second for Scharenberg.

Given his injury history that's quite a bit of overs imo. Would think a late second and Cutler would be quite fair though.

 

[martinson]

Would be a great get. Would trade Cutler and gold coasts second for Scharenberg.

He's had 3 ACL's , Jackess. Good player if he stands up.

 

[jackess]

Given his injury history that's quite a bit of overs imo. Would think a late second and Cutler would be quite fair though.

He's had 3 ACL's , Jackess. Good player if he stands up.

I shouldn’t also say that this draft sounds pretty uninspiring after the first 8-10 picks and I see Scharenberg as a similar play to Haynes from GWS. Probably takes Adams spot in our backline

 

[Tom14]

Would be a great get. Would trade Cutler and gold coasts second for Scharenberg.

I agree with Nunez - 3 ACLs means that Sharenberg isn't worth a second. He's better than Cutler and fits a need but I think they have reasonably equivalent value.

 

[jackess]

I agree with Nunez - 3 ACLs means that Sharenberg isn't worth a second. He's better than Cutler and fits a need but I think they have reasonably equivalent value.

Better than Cutler? Is this Dylan12

 

[M Malice]

I'd do Sharenberg for Cutler if our medical team tick it off, Sharenberg was very highly rated in his draft year.

 

[martinson]

I'd do Sharenberg for Cutler if our medical team tick it off, Sharenberg was very highly rated in his draft year.

I really rate Sharenberg as a player if he's able to overcome 3 ACL's which tbh is unlikely fully .

I'm also wary on players Collingwood is unloading.

 

[scott_the_man]

Scharenburg has plenty of talent. He was touted as the potential number 1 pick at stages in his draft year. But then again so was Aish in the same draft. But unlike Aish, Scharenburg has actually shown elite potential at AFL level when fit. Worth a punt if we think we can get his body right.

 

[bungalow_bill]

Better than Cutler? Is this Dylan12

No one puts Tommy in the corner

 

[Dalions]

If Sharanburg was available you would Adelaide would do whatever it takes to get him back to S.A. They need him more than us with losing Keith.

 

[Daniels Riches]

I’d much rather Sharenberg for Cutler, than a 3rd round pick. I wouldn’t want to send much back Collingwood’s way though. Certainly not a second round pick. I was massive on him during his draft year and was really disappointed that me missed out on him.


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[MacMum]

3 ACL's means red flags to me..

 

[Bucking Beads]

I’m prepared to back the club with our movements over the next few weeks. We’ve barely made a poor move over the last few years.

In my eyes our whole 2020 season relies on development from the Guys on our list as opposed to the talent we bring in.