2019 Training Reports

[sherrif]

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I’d prefer he watch Rance and base his game on his. You’re right, Cox, Duman and Hamling are better intercept marking defenders.[/QUOTE
Logue covers the ground better than all three. Is a longer kick and a far better option because Hamling and Cox wont be damaging if they do intercept the ball., while Duman doesnt have the leap (reason why he slipped in the draft in my view as he was one of the lowest standing jumps in his draft year) to impact the contest in a pack situation. I cant see any problem developing Logue as a guy who can play on anyone in defence and then gradually make his role more attacking in terms of going for more intercept marks. Logue was known as a very good intercept mark in his draft year. He has a string of high marking numbers late in the season that year if I remember right.

 

[theGav56]

The club is putting a heap of resources into this area of our game and seem pretty intent to transform our defense from a liability a couple of seasons ago, into a weapon. It is a mini-team of aggressive players who do take the game on, either with their marking, running or kicking. Logue has all of that.

Getting Logue into our backline fits the platform the club is looking for in my opinion. Ryan's comments support this. Recruiting Wilson and Hamling illustrates this.

These guys have the potential to become a dominant backline in the coming years and to push their impact further up the ground. Logue will intercept mark, run the ball, then kick big into the forward half on a regular basis. He will then form part of the wall that locks the ball into our forward line.

 

[blue shark]

The club is putting a heap of resources into this area of our game and seem pretty intent to transform our defense from a liability a couple of seasons ago, into a weapon. It is a mini-team of aggressive players who do take the game on, either with their marking, running or kicking. Logue has all of that.

Getting Logue into our backline fits the platform the club is looking for in my opinion. Ryan's comments support this. Recruiting Wilson and Hamling illustrates this.

These guys have the potential to become a dominant backline in the coming years and to push their impact further up the ground. Logue will intercept mark, run the ball, then kick big into the forward half on a regular basis. He will then form part of the wall that locks the ball into our forward line.

Everything you are saying makes sense, except pigeon holing Logue at half back, sure short term, just like Yeo. But I think long term he
could play anywhere.
Logue has played midfield for Swans, and with his run, kicking penetration could be an absolute weapon to our talls.
If he does play for Peel to find form, midfield is where we are lacking, the more rotations the better for me, our setups are predictable.

 

[mightymouse75]

Logue will play like mcgovern, if only we had actually picked mcgovern. Crying into my coffee

 

[mightymouse75]

Would have been good to see mungbean harley at training/rehabbing with the group

 

[blue shark]

Logue will play like mcgovern, if only we had actually picked mcgovern. Crying into my coffee

Comparing Logue to Yeo, consecutive fairest and best, doesn't have the arse, lump, to play like McGovern, plus Jeremy
doesn't have run and carry.

 

[Fred Ziffel]

So what’s it Monday, Wednesday and Friday for training huh?

Yes.

Would have been good to see mungbean harley at training/rehabbing with the group

I saw Harley entering the clubrooms Friday morning via the carpark entrance.

 

[sherrif]

Comparing Logue to Yeo, consecutive fairest and best, doesn't have the arse, lump, to play like McGovern, plus Jeremy
doesn't have run and carry.

People forget Yeo started his career as a half back and one who played at an inconsistent level when at Brisbane. Logue's first year was better than any of Yeo's first three. If the long term plan is to develop Griff as a midfielder then I cant see any negatives in letting him establish himself for the next two or three years as a defender to get adapt to the pace of afl football first. Personally dont have a problem with Logue playing his entire career as a defender who develops his attacking prowess every year. I think he could end up in playing style being a cross between Jeremy McGovern and Ben Stratton from Hawthorn. A player who both intercepts the ball in marking contests and who can also lockdown on players ranging in size from smalls to the talls. Im not saying he will end up being as good as Jeremy is at intercept marking, but a role where he runs off his man after the ball hits the ground when playing on taller players and goes for his marks when playing on smaller types could end up suiting him perfectly long-term.

 

[theGav56]

Everything you are saying makes sense, except pigeon holing Logue at half back, sure short term, just like Yeo. But I think long term he
could play anywhere.
Logue has played midfield for Swans, and with his run, kicking penetration could be an absolute weapon to our talls.
If he does play for Peel to find form, midfield is where we are lacking, the more rotations the better for me, our setups are predictable.

Yeah I agree and I'm not meaning to pigeon hole him into a fixed position. Just want him to build himself into his career from a position he is most likely to be successful in rather than jumping too far ahead. At the very least I expect him to be a player who can be used in a variety of roles. Sometimes due to how the opposition line up against our side. Sometimes even just as a shock tactic.

 

[Wally Walpamur]

What was Logue’s best game (stats wise) when he played at Swans?

 

[One_Wing]

What was Logue’s best game (stats wise) when he played at Swans?

 

[Scham]

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He was played as a midfielder in that game, I’m sure to show the recruiters his versatility, but does anyone remember if he played as a mid in the next game, the final, or did he go back to KPD?

 

[Scham]

To put a bit of perspective around that round 23 game he played in the midfield, it was against WP who only won 2 games all year and Josh Rotham got 31 possessions.

 

[stax on the mull]

Going by his stats Logue must have done a bit of ruck work here and there. (Heard Percy Johnson earlier in the season absolutely livid about Fyfe being used as a ruck, but he reckoned Logue could be used in that role.)

 

[Scham]

Going by his stats Logue must have done a bit of ruck work here and there. (Heard Percy Johnson earlier in the season absolutely livid about Fyfe being used as a ruck, but he reckoned Logue could be used in that role.)

Third man up?

 

[sherrif]

Going by his stats Logue must have done a bit of ruck work here and there. (Heard Percy Johnson earlier in the season absolutely livid about Fyfe being used as a ruck, but he reckoned Logue could be used in that role.)

He spent time as a ruckman in the underage champs. He had one of the best leaps at draft testing as well. Not the silliest idea.

 

[Dale147]

Ha, Percy Johnson, now there’s a blast from the past.

 

[Belnakor]

Logue will play like mcgovern, if only we had actually picked mcgovern. Crying into my coffee

Mcgovern plays a role that WCE's setup allows him to play. When he is out injured another person can play the role. Its not about drafting its about the system. Logue will look good if the system allows him to.

 

[theGav56]

He spent time as a ruckman in the underage champs. He had one of the best leaps at draft testing as well. Not the silliest idea.

Pre-Lobb I was in favour of this. Not sure we would bother now. I think it effectively puts another midfielder into the mix and concedes the ruck while giving a contest. To mix it up every now and then, it could be useful in the repertoire.

 

[blue shark]

Mcgovern plays a role that WCE's setup allows him to play. When he is out injured another person can play the role. Its not about drafting its about the system. Logue will look good if the system allows him to.

WC have plenty of marking power with Sheppard, Hurn, Yeo, etc, the focus is on McGovern, but even his own club has him about 6th at
their fairest and best.
They are well coached and play as a team, but this year was a Bradbury premiership, but their system shits all over ours in comparison.
Will be interested to see how we go with a proper spine, and there is no excuses to lift the bar, only Langdon and the kids shone.

 

[Scham]

WC have plenty of marking power with Sheppard, Hurn, Yeo, etc, the focus is on McGovern, but even his own club has him about 6th at
their fairest and best.
They are well coached and play as a team, but this year was a Bradbury premiership, but their system shits all over ours in comparison.
Will be interested to see how we go with a proper spine, and there is no excuses to lift the bar, only Langdon and the kids shone.

Not sure how you can say it was a Bradbury premiership when they were top 4 all year and top 2 for most of it.

 

[wayToGo_]

It was a shame there was no AFL football in 2018. Really looking forward to footy being back next year.

 

[wayToGo_]

Hamling and Matera back at the club early as well...

 

[Taylor]

Pre-Lobb I was in favour of this. Not sure we would bother now. I think it effectively puts another midfielder into the mix and concedes the ruck while giving a contest. To mix it up every now and then, it could be useful in the repertoire.

The issue of this is that now ruckman can take the ball from the air and run off with it without being immediately called for holding the ball if they are tackled. The risk is that a dominant ruck does this and our slow mids are no longer in any useful position as the ball is moved forward - it's a set play opportunity against us and an easy trigger.

See Logue in the ruck? Get set up for the quick kick forward from the ruckman.

 

[theGav56]

The issue of this is that now ruckman can take the ball from the air and run off with it without being immediately called for holding the ball if they are tackled. The risk is that a dominant ruck does this and our slow mids are no longer in any useful position as the ball is moved forward - it's a set play opportunity against us and an easy trigger.

See Logue in the ruck? Get set up for the quick kick forward from the ruckman.

Well I don't think you put him in against a genuine ruck necessarily. And he does have an impressive leap.