Training 2020 Pre-Season

[SufferingS8INT]

To add my two cents. I agree with plugger in that I don’t see our best team having Ryder and Marshall in it.

However, Prospect is young and Ratts obviously wants to develop his forward craft so he’s not a one dimensional player. He might be a great ruck but could potentially also be a fantastic forward. I also believe They plan on using two proper talls in the Roughy/Franklin mould (hence bringing in Roughy) with King & Ryder/Marshall however King and Ryder will play periodically at sandy regularly to not just preserve their bodies but also so Max can develop and hone his game.

As for midfield rotations I feel our midfield might still fall short on class but doesn’t on stamina. It will only improve with another pre season into Gresham, Coff, Clark, Hanners and the addition of Hill, Jones etc On field rotations will cover Ryders selection. Anyway, only time will tell.

How many days now??

 

[plugger66]

To add my two cents. I agree with plugger in that I don’t see our best team having Ryder and Marshall in it.

However, Prospect is young and Ratts obviously wants to develop his forward craft so he’s not a one dimensional player. He might be a great ruck but could potentially also be a fantastic forward. I also believe They plan on using two proper talls in the Roughy/Franklin mould (hence bringing in Roughy) with King & Ryder/Marshall however King and Ryder will play periodically at sandy regularly to not just preserve their bodies but also so Max can develop and hone his game.

As for midfield rotations I feel our midfield might still fall short on class but doesn’t on stamina. It will only improve with another pre season into Gresham, Coff, Clark, Hanners and the addition of Hill, Jones etc On field rotations will cover Ryders selection. Anyway, only time will tell.

How many days now??

14

 

[Saintos The ITK]

So you’re saying there’s a chance.

 

[George]

SENIOR LIST

1. Nicholas Coffield
2. Jake Carlisle
3. Zak Jones
4. Jade Gresham
5. Shane Savage
6. Sebastian Ross
7. Luke Dunstan
8. Brad Hill
9. Jack Steele
10. Dan Hannebery
11. Hunter Clark
12. Max King
13. Jack Lonie
14. Jarryn Geary
15. Jack Billings
16. Dan Butler
17. Dylan Roberton
18. Paddy Ryder
19. Rowan Marshall
20. Dougal Howard
21. Ben Long
22. Nathan J. Brown
23. Jack Bytel
24. Logan Austin
25. Dean Kent
26. Josh Battle
27. Ryan Abbott
28. Tim Membrey
29. Jimmy Webster
30. Ed Phillips
31. Ryan Byrnes
33. Ben Paton
34. Matthew Parker
35. Jack Sinclair
36. Daniel McKenzie
37. Leo Connolly
38. Oscar Clavarino
39. Darragh Joyce
40. Nick Hind
43. Jonathon Marsh



ROOKIE LIST

42. Jack Bell (CAT A)
44. Callum Wilkie (CAT A)
45. Sam Alabakis (CAT B)
46. Doulton Langlands (CAT A)
48. Jack Mayo (CAT A)

OUT OF CONTRACT
2020

2. Jake Carlisle - Link
3. Zak Jones - Link
5. Shane Savage - Link
9. Jack Steele - Link
13. Jack Lonie - Link
14. Jarryn Geary (UFA) - Link
16. Dan Butler - Link
18. Paddy Ryder - Link
22. Nathan J. Brown - Link
23. Jack Bytel - Link
24. Logan Austin - Link
26. Josh Battle - Link
27. Ryan Abbott - Link
30. Ed Phillips - Link
33. Ben Paton - Link
34. Matthew Parker - Link
38. Oscar Clavarino - Link
40. Nick Hind - Link
42. Jack Bell - Link
43. Jonathon Marsh - Link
45. Sam Alabakis - Link
46. Doulton Langlands - Link
48. Jack Mayo - Link





OUT OF CONTRACT
2021

1. Nicholas Coffield - Link
6. Sebastian Ross (RFA) - Link
7. Luke Dunstan (RFA) - Link
11. Hunter Clark - Link
15. Jack Billings (RFA) - Link
17. Dylan Roberton (RFA) - Link
25. Dean Kent - Link
28. Tim Membrey - Link
31. Ryan Byrnes - Link
35. Jack Sinclair - Link
37. Leo Connolly - Link
39. Darragh Joyce - Link
44. Callum Wilkie - Link





OUT OF CONTRACT
2022

12. Max King - Link
19. Rowan Marshall - Link
21. Ben Long - Link
29. Jimmy Webster (UFA) - Link
36. Daniel McKenzie (RFA) - Link





OUT OF CONTRACT
2023

4. Jade Gresham (RFA) - Link
10. Dan Hannebery - Link





OUT OF CONTRACT
2024

8. Brad Hill - Link
20. Dougal Howard - Link​

 

[George]

Full thread is here:

List & Contract Status

SENIOR LIST 1. Jack Higgins 2. Marcus Windhager 3. Zak Jones 4. Lance Collard 5. Brad Crouch 6. Sebastian Ross 7. Nasiah Wanganeen-Milera 8. Bradley Hill 9. Jack Steele 10. Mitchito Owens 11. Hunter Clark 12. Max King 13. Ryan Byrnes 14. Liam Stocker 15. Paddy Dow 16. Daniel Butler 17. Isaac...

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Subject to some proof of the new boys contracts and other rookie/senior list spots.

 

[Keg on legs]

Some quality coming OOC in 2021. Just as well we will have won a flag by then

 

[Tommy Wigs]

Lol and King wont run until after Xmas [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]
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What role would he take though?

 

[plugger66]

Zak jones out of contract end of next year. That’s weird. I reckon we could easily get rid of another 10 from that list. Proves there is still a long way to go

 

[LeonardHayes87]

Zak jones out of contract end of next year. That’s weird. I reckon we could easily get rid of another 10 from that list. Proves there is still a long way to go

That’s definitely incorrect.
You don’t joint another team on a 1 year deal. He’d be on 3 minimum.

 

[BrutThough]

Didnt Ryder sign a 2 year deal?
and I think Jones and Butler both signed 3 years.

Out of everyone else, Steele and Battle would be my main priority. Battle was reportedly close to signing a new 2 year deal just before trade period so that doesnt' seem far off. Hopefully we give Steele a nice long deal.

I would expect Bytel and Paton to both to get extended mid season. If they play well, Savage and Geary will get another year. Lonie will depend on how he is playing, if his last contract extension is anything to go by, but Id be surprised if he doesn't end up extending.

Other than that, Carlisle is the most interesting case. Will be a big wait and see with him.

 

[Keg on legs]

Zak jones out of contract end of next year. That’s weird. I reckon we could easily get rid of another 10 from that list. Proves there is still a long way to go

Depth isn't our issue. Top end quality is.

Every club would have players on their list they'd happily lose. The 2 keys are 1) how good are your top 6 or so and 2) how effectively can your bottom 6 contribute to role

 

[plugger66]

Didnt Ryder sign a 2 year deal?
and I think Jones and Butler both signed 3 years.

Out of everyone else, Steele and Battle would be my main priority. Battle was reportedly close to signing a new 2 year deal just before trade period so that doesnt' seem far off. Hopefully we give Steele a nice long deal.

I would expect Bytel and Paton to both to get extended mid season. If they play well, Savage and Geary will get another year. Lonie will depend on how he is playing, if his last contract extension is anything to go by, but Id be surprised if he doesn't end up extending.

Other than that, Carlisle is the most interesting case. Will be a big wait and see with him.

I think a lot will depend on how the club goes. I certainly wouldn’t think savage and geary are certainties.

 

[plugger66]

Depth isn't our issue. Top end quality is.

Every club would have players on their list they'd happily lose. The 2 keys are 1) how good are your top 6 or so and 2) how effectively can your bottom 6 contribute to role

I agree but we got rid of a lot this year I didn’t realise how many could still go next year.

 

[Mowman]

Didnt Ryder sign a 2 year deal?
and I think Jones and Butler both signed 3 years.

Out of everyone else, Steele and Battle would be my main priority. Battle was reportedly close to signing a new 2 year deal just before trade period so that doesnt' seem far off. Hopefully we give Steele a nice long deal.

I would expect Bytel and Paton to both to get extended mid season. If they play well, Savage and Geary will get another year. Lonie will depend on how he is playing, if his last contract extension is anything to go by, but Id be surprised if he doesn't end up extending.

Other than that, Carlisle is the most interesting case. Will be a big wait and see with him.

No wasn't close was annoyed a bit with the low offer

 

[BrutThough]

I think a lot will depend on how the club goes. I certainly wouldn’t think savage and geary are certainties.

I'd be surprised if Savage didn't get another year. He had a very good 2019 and is only 29 next year so is unlikely to have an age related drop-off.
With it being Browns last year and potentially Geary (who will be 32 mid season), I dont think we would want to remove another senior player.
Plus, with so many list changes this year we might want a bit more stability with our experienced players.

 

[BrutThough]

No wasn't close was annoyed a bit with the low offer

Just going by what some of the journos reported.
Thankfully they have a long time to agree on a price.

 

[plugger66]

I'd be surprised if Savage didn't get another year. He had a very good 2019 and is only 29 next year so is unlikely to have an age related drop-off.
With it being Browns last year and potentially Geary (who will be 32 mid season), I dont think we would want to remove another senior player.
Plus, with so many list changes this year we might want a bit more stability with our experienced players.

Maybe the sooner the likes of savage are replaced the better the club will be.

 

[BrutThough]

Maybe the sooner the likes of savage are replaced the better the club will be.

Savage had a very good year.
The club doesnt improve by getting rid of players who are performing every week.

 

[plugger66]

Savage had a very good year.
The club doesnt improve by getting rid of players who are performing every week.

I thought he was just fair. There were guys delisted from clubs this year who played a lot of the year. I’m hoping savage is replaced sometime next year.

 

[BrutThough]

I thought he was just fair. There were guys delisted from clubs this year who played a lot of the year. I’m hoping savage is replaced sometime next year.

He had very few bad games, mainly good with some outstanding performances.
Warranted being selected and if he keeps playing like he did in 2019 then he doesn't need to be replaced next year.

 

[sammm]

Where did you read that?

On big footy on here

 

[Mowman]

On big footy on here

Has to be right then , lock it in

 

[plugger66]

He had very few bad games, mainly good with some outstanding performances.
Warranted being selected and if he keeps playing like he did in 2019 then he doesn't need to be replaced next year.

Well we see it differently To me he is exact type that we need to replace.

 

[George]

That’s definitely incorrect.
You don’t joint another team on a 1 year deal. He’d be on 3 minimum.

Didnt Ryder sign a 2 year deal?
and I think Jones and Butler both signed 3 years.

Out of everyone else, Steele and Battle would be my main priority. Battle was reportedly close to signing a new 2 year deal just before trade period so that doesnt' seem far off. Hopefully we give Steele a nice long deal.

I would expect Bytel and Paton to both to get extended mid season. If they play well, Savage and Geary will get another year. Lonie will depend on how he is playing, if his last contract extension is anything to go by, but Id be surprised if he doesn't end up extending.

Other than that, Carlisle is the most interesting case. Will be a big wait and see with him.

I need proof before I fix it up, if you have an article somewhere stating it please post it. I know he's not on one year either but nothing else I can find to give me the correct info.

 

[gringo2011]

Dougal Howard has had some pretty impressive numbers as a defender. Just looking over the last few years, has gone over 100 in supercoach quite a few times. Not a huge number of intercept-type defenders do that.

I reckon Logan Austin did too to be fair.