Preview 2022 AFL Draft General Discussion

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NATIONAL:
Vic Country

Jaxon Binns (Dandenong Stingrays)
Hugh Bond (GWV Rebels)
Coby Burgiel (Gippsland Power)
Aaron Cadman (GWV Rebels)
Jhye Clark (Geelong Falcons)
Brayden George (Murray Bushrangers)
Oliver Hollands (Murray Bushrangers)
Bailey Humphrey (Gippsland Power)
Henry Hustwaite (Dandenong Stingrays)
Max Knobel (Gippsland Power)
Jacob Konstanty (Gippsland Power)
Noah Long (Bendigo Pioneers)
Toby McMullin (Sandringham Dragons)
Caleb Mitchell (Murray Bushrangers)
Olivier Northam (Geelong Falcons)
Jack O'Sullivan (Oakleigh Chargers)
Mitch Szybkowski (Dandenong Stingrays)
Cooper Vickery (Gippsland Power)
James Van Es (GWV Rebels)


Vic Metro

Will Ashcroft (Sandringham Dragons)
Charlie Clarke (Sandringham Dragons)
Alwyn Davey (Oakleigh Chargers)
Blake Drury (Oakleigh Chargers)
Max Gruzewski (Oakleigh Chargers)
Lewis Hayes (Eastern Ranges)
Olli Hotton (Sandringham Dragons)
Matthew Jefferson (Oakleigh Chargers)
Cameron Mackenzie (Sandringham Dragons)
Harry Sheezel (Sandringham Dragons)
Luke Teal (Oakleigh Chargers)
Elijah Tsatas (Oakleigh Chargers)
George Wardlaw (Oakleigh Chargers)
Josh Weddle (Oakleigh Chargers)


South Australia

Harry Barnett (West Adelaide)
Adam D'Aloia (Woodville-West Torrens)
Will Dowling (North Adelaide)
Phoenix Foster (Norwood)
Isaac Keeler (North Adelaide)
Harry Lemmey (West Adelaide)
Jaiden Magor (South Adelaide)
Max Michalanney (Norwood)
Mattaes Phillipou (Woodville-West Torrens)
Jakob Ryan (Glenelg)
Nick Sadler (Sturt)
Tom Scully (West Adelaide)
Will Verrall (South Adelaide)


Western Australia

Jed Adams (Peel Thunder)
Edward Allan (Claremont)
Jedd Busslinger (East Perth)
Harry Cole (Claremont)
Hugh Davies (Claremont)
Tyrell Dewar (Subiaco)
Sam Gilbey (Claremont)
Reuben Ginbey (East Perth)
Steely Green (South Fremantle)
Jed Hagan (East Fremantle)
Elijah Hewett (Swan Districts)
Darcy Jones (Swan Districts)


New South Wales
Jason Gillbee (Bendigo Pioneers)
Nick Madden (GWS Academy)
Harry Rowston (GWS Academy)

Northern Territory
Lloyd Johnston (NT Thunder)
Anthony Munkara (NT/West Adelaide)

Queensland
Shadeau Brain (Brisbane Academy)
Jaspa Fletcher (Brisbane Academy)

Tasmania
Seth Campbell (Tasmania Devils)
Lachlan Cowan (Tasmania Devils)
Tom McCallum (Tasmania Devils)
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STATE
VIC METRO

Jakob Anderson (Sandringham Dragons)
Yuyu Ashwin (Oakleigh Chargers)
Josh Bennetts (Eastern Ranges)
Jayden Davey (Oakleigh Chargers)
Darcy Edmends (Northern Knights)
Will Elliott (Oakleigh Chargers)
Harry Flynn (Eastern Ranges)
Darcy Gilbert (Sandringham Dragons)
Cooper Harvey (Northern Knights)
Jamie Hope (Sandringham Dragons)
Jerome Lawrence (Oakleigh Chargers)
Bailey Macdonald (Oakleigh Chargers)
Hudson O'Keeffe (Oakleigh Chargers)
Paul Pascu (Calder Cannons)
Matthew Payne (Western Jets)
Rye Penny (Calder Cannons)
Jovan Petric (Western Jets)
Osca Riccardi (Geelong Falcons)
Christopher Rousakis (Sandringham Dragons)
Nathan Scollo (Sandringham Dragons)
Clay Tucker (Eastern Ranges)
Callum Verrell (Eastern Ranges)
Kai Windsor (Eastern Ranges)


VIC COUNTRY

Charlie Barnett (Bendigo Pioneers)
Taj Campbell-Farrell (Dandenong Stingrays)
Ted Clohesy (Geelong Falcons)
Finn Emile-Brennan (Dandenong Stingrays)
Felix Fogaty (GWV Rebels)
Harvey Gallagher (Bendigo Pioneers)
Michael Kiraly (Bendigo Pioneers)
Oscar Murdoch (Geelong Falcons)
Hugo Nosiara (Dandenong Stingrays)
Jonti Schuback (Gippsland Power)
Ziggy Toledo (Dandenong Stingrays)


SOUTH AUSTRALIA

Shaun Bennier (North Adelaide)
Tom Emmett (Sturt)
Oscar Kregar (West Adelaide)
Archie Lovelock (Glenelg)
Baynen Lowe (Norwood)
Kyle Marshall (South Adelaide)
Darcy Minchella (West Adelaide)
Rhett Montgomerie (Central District)
Kobe Ryan (West Adelaide)
Lachlan Scannell (Glenelg)
Oscar Steene (West Adelaide)
Frank Szekely (North Adelaide)
Brodie Tuck (Central District)
Jake Walker (Glenelg)


WESTERN AUSTRALIA

Kane Bevan (West Perth)
Jackson Broadbent (Peel Thunder)
Jack Cleaver (East Fremantle)
Josh Draper (Peel Thunder)
Griff Julian (West Perth)
Bailey Maxwell (East Perth)
Connor McDonald (Perth)
Toby McQuilkin (South Fremantle)
Baxter Philip (Perth)
Jasper Scaife (West Perth)
Kaleb Smith (East Fremantle)
Conrad Williams (Claremont)


NEW SOUTH WALES/ACT

Kaelan Bradtke (Sydney Swans VFL)
Will Edwards (Sydney Swans Academy)

TASMANIA

Brandon Leary (Tasmania Devils)
Cameron Owen (Tasmania Devils)

QUEENSLAND

Brinn Little (Gold Coast Suns Academy)

NT

Beau Tedcastle (GWV Rebels)
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giantroo said:

AFL DRAFT COMBINE RESULTS 2022​

Vertical Jump ​

75cm – Darcy Jones (WA)
75cm – James Van Es (VIC C)
72cm – Jack O’Sullivan (VIC M)
70cm – Olli Hotton (VIC M)
70cm – Reuben Ginbey (WA)
70cm – Elijah Hewett (WA)
69cm – Jacob Konstanty (VIC C)
68cm – Blake Drury (VIC M)
68cm – Tyrell Dewar (WA)
68cm – Josh Weddle (VIC M)
68cm – Edward Allan (WA)

Running Vertical Jump ​

98cm – James Van Es (VIC C)
90cm – Josh Weddle (VIC M)
90cm – Will Verrall (SA)
89cm – Jack O’Sullivan (VIC M)
87cm – Darcy Jones (WA)
87cm – Mattaes Phillipou (SA)
84cm – Toby McMullin (VIC M)
83cm – Mitch Szybkowski (VIC C)
83cm – Reuben Ginbey (WA)
83cm – Anthony Munkara (ALLIES)
83cm – Lachlan Cowan (ALLIES)

Agility ​

7.072sec – Darcy Jones (WA)
8.182sec – Jaxon Binns (VIC C)
8.217sec – Elijah Hewett (WA)
8.247sec – Steely Green (WA)
8.255sec – Edward Allan (WA)
8.267sec – Luke Teal (VIC M)
8.285sec – Toby McMullin (VIC M)
8.292sec – Jacob Konstanty (VIC C)
8.325sec – Harry Rowston (ALLIES)
8.343sec – Noah Long (VIC C)

20m Sprint ​

2.814sec – Edward Allan (WA)
2.880sec – Toby McMullin (VIC M)
2.883sec – Coby Burgiel (VIC C)
2.910sec – James Van Es (VIC C)
2.912sec – Darcy Jones (WA)
2.924sec – Olli Hotton (VIC M)
2.928sec – Reuben Ginbey (WA)
2.929sec – Cooper Vickery (VIC C)
2.937sec – Josh Weddle (VIC M)
2.951sec – Lloyd Johnston (ALLIES)

2km Time Trial​

5min 54sec – Ollie Hollands (VIC C)
5min 54sec – Jason Gillbee (ALLIES)
6min 00sec – Jaxon Binns (VIC C)
6min 03sec – Josh Weddle (VIC M)
6min 15sec – Reuben Ginbey (WA)
6min 16sec – Jakob Ryan (SA)
6min 17sec – Steely Green (WA)
6min 21sec – Will Dowling (SA)
6min 25sec – Blake Drury (VIC M)
6min 25sec – Seth Campbell (ALLIES)
6min 25sec – Mattaes Phillipou (SA)
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perplexed said:
That all makes sense, though I think you guys will live trade down with a couple of teams and match Ashcroft with more picks than that. You may also trade a couple of your F3's to help reduce the Fletcher deficit which knocks out more picks.


Most teams take in more spots than they intend to use as it gives them more flexibility. This year only three teams had the max 38 on their primary list and eleven only had 36 and extra rookies. If its similar this draft there'll be lots of passing.
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Yeah, until the actual draft, who knows what things will look like, once the bid is made.

Live trading down potentially wipes out a couple of potential trade partners for those future 3rd rounders as well.

We can potentially trade two future 3rd round picks in to this years draft, and I would be eyeing off Hawthorn's picks, currently 50 & 52 for that deal.

But the most obvious team to trade with on draft night, to get a points boost from pick 34, would also be Hawthorn, trading 34 for their picks 48, 50 & 52. Then we can look at teams that might be willing to move a late 3rd round pick in to 2023. Collingwood with pick 51, Adelaide with pick 56, and GWS with pick 57 are the obvious teams that might be willing to trade out late 3rd round pick.
 
Current reports indicate that there will only be about 50 live picks taken in the draft, while the remaining list spots are likely to be rookie upgrades, DFAs, or actual rookies. That said, I’d expect the draft to start with virtually all of the first four rounds active as well as Melbourne, Port and Richmond’s fifth rounders (being the third of their minimum three picks) which leaves us with about 75 picks to start the draft.


Also note that “magic pudding picks” are arranged into rounds in reverse ladder order so you wouldn’t have consecutive picks. Brisbane, Essendon and any other clubs would have pudding picks alternating with North’s.

Any leftover points from bid matching will generate a pick of that value in the draft order (unless the pick used to match is in the first round), so that also wouldn’t be at the end of the draft, e.g. if Brisbane matches a bid for Ashcroft at pick 2, 55 would become about 43 with the leftover points after moving up from the removed picks.

By the end of the first round the bid matching should have used about 9 of the later picks, but should also create 2-3 matched bid picks that push everything else back, so your net improvement at the end of the draft is six places higher than pick 76-odd, with any such picks alternated with Brisbane and Essendon’s pudding picks.

The other thing to consider is that any club you trade with who acquires two of your picks will also have their two last picks become inactive due to insufficient list spots, so overall you’d come forward another two spots with that.

So from 76 and 79 we’ve moved up to 68 and 71 so far, for a combined 110 draft points (you might get an F3 for them if someone actually wanted them).

Once the first round is done though I’m not sure how many clubs would have a use for 100 odd points in the draft unless they have a father-son or northern academy prospect set to go between pick ~22 and pick 40 (remembering that they can’t match NGAs until pick 40, at which point you only need 200 points to match).

Of course, further bids and passes will move those picks up a bit more, but by the time clubs have started passing on their own picks, they’re not going to want to trade for the last couple of picks in the draft.
 
Lore said:
Any leftover points from bid matching will generate a pick of that value in the draft order (unless the pick used to match is in the first round), so that also wouldn’t be at the end of the draft, e.g. if Brisbane matches a bid for Ashcroft at pick 2, 55 would become about 43 with the leftover points after moving up from the removed picks.
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I don't see how that is possible.

After the Ashcroft bid, pick 55 moves up to pick 52, in this scenario.

If there are any points left over from our pick 38, you can not add them to pick 55.

Next either Fletcher is bid on, or Davey is bid on.

If Davey is the next player bid on, and the bid comes after Essendon's pick 22, then that pick 52 stays exactly where it is. If the Davey bid is made before Essendon's pick 22, then Essendon probably make a live trade, say trading with Melbourne for their pick 37 and future second round pick (which is likely a mid to late 30's pick).
 

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Lore said:
Also note that “magic pudding picks” are arranged into rounds in reverse ladder order so you wouldn’t have consecutive picks. Brisbane, Essendon and any other clubs would have pudding picks alternating with North’s.
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Source.

My understanding, from a Brisbane perspective, is that all fully used up picks go to the very back of the draft.
 
briztoon said:
Source.

My understanding, from a Brisbane perspective, is that all fully used up picks go to the very back of the draft.
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Source = live updating the draft every year and observing that the picks don’t all turn up in order with all of Brisbane’s picks and then all of North’s and then all of Essendon’s or whatever. They alternate.

They go to the back of the draft and then, amongst themselves, are organised into rounds in reverse ladder order.
 
briztoon said:
I don't see how that is possible.

After the Ashcroft bid, pick 55 moves up to pick 52, in this scenario.
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Yep.
briztoon said:
If there are any points left over from our pick 38, you can not add them to pick 55.
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You’re right, if it wasn’t used at all it’d go up to about 52 and the last hundred points or whatever would stay with the previous pick which would move back to about 67 or wherever it fits in (sorry not gonna look it up at this hour).

Pretty sure it’s something we used to think happened and I forgot that we figured out it was wrong 🫠😂
briztoon said:
Next either Fletcher is bid on, or Davey is bid on.
If Davey is the next player bid on, and the bid comes after Essendon's pick 22, then that pick 52 stays exactly where it is. If the Davey bid is made before Essendon's pick 22, then Essendon probably make a live trade, say trading with Melbourne for their pick 37 and future second round pick (which is likely a mid to late 30's pick).
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Nah that part of my comment had nothing to do with those. Was purely doing bad math adding about 100 points to ~51 which I shouldn’t have been doing as mentioned above.
 
Lore said:
Source = live updating the draft every year and observing that the picks don’t all turn up in order with all of Brisbane’s picks and then all of North’s and then all of Essendon’s or whatever. They alternate.

They go to the back of the draft and then, amongst themselves, are organised into rounds in reverse ladder order.
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That's the bit that wasn't clear to me in your previous post. I interpreted what you said previously, somewhat different.
 
briztoon said:
I don't see how that is possible.

After the Ashcroft bid, pick 55 moves up to pick 52, in this scenario.

If there are any points left over from our pick 38, you can not add them to pick 55.

Next either Fletcher is bid on, or Davey is bid on.

If Davey is the next player bid on, and the bid comes after Essendon's pick 22, then that pick 52 stays exactly where it is. If the Davey bid is made before Essendon's pick 22, then Essendon probably make a live trade, say trading with Melbourne for their pick 37 and future second round pick (which is likely a mid to late 30's pick).
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I thought that the next pick that is matched by the team, can’t be traded. It must be used immediately.
This was spoken about many times in relation to Bulldogs picks for the last two years. Our first pick was going to get frozen and be untradable…. Other picks and future picks could then be traded. Any picks traded to another club, could then not be traded back using another trade.
 
LittleG said:
I thought that the next pick that is matched by the team, can’t be traded. It must be used immediately.
This was spoken about many times in relation to Bulldogs picks for the last two years. Our first pick was going to get frozen and be untradable…. Other picks and future picks could then be traded. Any picks traded to another club, could then not be traded back using another trade.
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Unless there was a rule change I missed in the last two years, you can still make a trade when a bid is placed.

We (the Lions) did this in both the 2019 and 2020 drafts.

In both cases we traded out the very next pick for multiple later picks, that allowed us to points match, and gave us another pick that wasn’t at the very end of the draft.
 
PMBangers said:
There's barely 80 draftable players this year tbf
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Bulldogs seem set to take 1-2 extra rookies into next year and 1-2 main list spots less.
Could be a reflection on the current draft quality as rookies only get 1 year deals, late draftees are guaranteed 2.
 

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RedmanWasHere said:
If there were overagers who missed selection in the last few years, take 'em.
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If there were they would have alraedy been taken in the Rookie/Mid season/Supplementary drafts.
The only reason there would be 50 taken this year is because clubs are forced to make at least three picks.
Otherwise I'd suspect clubs would be struggling to pick 50 players.
 
This year's draft pool is fine, every year the media writes doom and gloom about current year and overhypes the future years prospects(I guess it's their job to get views based on talking rubbish), last year they said this year was a bumper crop of ruck/kpps based on early predictions and clubs should stock up on picks this year, just realise they are early predictions and current years players are fine.
 
weltschmerz said:
Adelaide we're onto you, you can’t draft another year 8 kid, that’s illegal

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A couple of dogs are in our sights for next year too...
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Davo-27 said:
This year's draft pool is fine, every year the media writes doom and gloom about current year and overhypes the future years prospects(I guess it's their job to get views based on talking rubbish), last year they said this year was a bumper crop of ruck/kpps based on early predictions and clubs should stock up on picks this year, just realise they are early predictions and current years players are fine.
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Spot on!!
 
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