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List Mgmt. 2022 Draft Thread

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Mofra said:
I suspect we end up with either Buss or Hollands. Whoever we take probably affects who we target at our second and third picks.

TBH I think a good winger and KPD are both list needs, if our recruiting staff think that Buss can become one in the AFL system.
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That’s my read on it too, we’ll take whoever of the two is left.

I’m more than happy with that to be honest, I’d be stoked with Hollands - wing is as desperate a need as any for us and a high floor type that runs all day and you can just about lock into the position for the foreseeable future is what we’re crying out for - having Hollands lock down a wing would let us experiment a bit more on the other wing with more high impact types like Bedendo etc whilst we know the output we’ll get from Hollands wing.

If we can get a Hunter type runner whose not an absolute liability Offensively id take that in a heartbeat - our wings are so drastically bad that the flow on effect severely hampers our midfield, our link up with the forward line and our run out of defence.

Plus just maybe it puts us in a better spot to have a crack at his brother who would be exactly the type of versatile goal kicking mid/fwd I’d love to add to our current crop - bring in Ollie and go super hard at Elijah next couple of years
 
doggies ftw said:
That’s my read on it too, we’ll take whoever of the two is left.

I’m more than happy with that to be honest, I’d be stoked with Hollands - wing is as desperate a need as any for us and a high floor type that runs all day and you can just about lock into the position for the foreseeable future is what we’re crying out for - having Hollands lock down a wing would let us experiment a bit more on the other wing with more high impact types like Bedendo etc whilst we know the output we’ll get from Hollands wing.

If we can get a Hunter type runner whose not an absolute liability Offensively id take that in a heartbeat - our wings are so drastically bad that the flow on effect severely hampers our midfield, our link up with the forward line and our run out of defence.

Plus just maybe it puts us in a better spot to have a crack at his brother who would be exactly the type of versatile goal kicking mid/fwd I’d love to add to our current crop - bring in Ollie and go super hard at Elijah next couple of years
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Also the added benefit of being afl ready. Most others around our pick probably wouldn't be able to play regular senior footy next year.
 
Mofra said:
I suspect we end up with either Buss or Hollands. Whoever we take probably affects who we target at our second and third picks.

TBH I think a good winger and KPD are both list needs, if our recruiting staff think that Buss can become one in the AFL system.
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I’m starting to come around to Allen as that winger. Imagine a 195cm, agile, elite 20m sprint winger. If he gets a decent tank then he could be the bees knees. Had a stress fracture in his back and only played 6 games. Huge ceiling, low floor potentially but can see us backing him in if we like his character
 
doggies ftw said:
That’s my read on it too, we’ll take whoever of the two is left.

I’m more than happy with that to be honest, I’d be stoked with Hollands - wing is as desperate a need as any for us and a high floor type that runs all day and you can just about lock into the position for the foreseeable future is what we’re crying out for - having Hollands lock down a wing would let us experiment a bit more on the other wing with more high impact types like Bedendo etc whilst we know the output we’ll get from Hollands wing.

If we can get a Hunter type runner whose not an absolute liability Offensively id take that in a heartbeat - our wings are so drastically bad that the flow on effect severely hampers our midfield, our link up with the forward line and our run out of defence.

Plus just maybe it puts us in a better spot to have a crack at his brother who would be exactly the type of versatile goal kicking mid/fwd I’d love to add to our current crop - bring in Ollie and go super hard at Elijah next couple of years
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Arty Jones could still be that x factor on the other wing too
 

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Nat Fyfe said:
Sam Walsh and Jack Macrae are both players who have often been described quite similarly to Hollands.
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Andrew Brayshaw another.

Doesn't always work out well (another who got this kinda critique was James Aish), but it's not necessarily a bad thing. With the dearth of quality wingmen in the league right now, nothing of the very little I've seen in scouting reports or highlights has put me off him.
 
Pick 11 will probably be traded on draft night. The teams above us have basically said no to trading their picks. Our pick is the first pick that is available.

Clubs know Demons, GWS & Swans want George. George won’t make it to pick 21, it’s just a matter of who really wants him and IF he is still there are pick 11.
 
Bonti 5416 said:
I’m starting to come around to Allen as that winger. Imagine a 195cm, agile, elite 20m sprint winger. If he gets a decent tank then he could be the bees knees. Had a stress fracture in his back and only played 6 games. Huge ceiling, low floor potentially but can see us backing him in if we like his character
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Lowest floor but one of the highest ceilings of any in the first round

Good sidestep and a lot of development left. I suspect if we don't take him, Eagles pounce with their next pick.
 
So we are one of the clubs that have spoken to him

JOE RICHARDS had never spoken to an AFL club until a few months ago, but now the schoolteacher from Wangaratta looms as the biggest bolter heading into next week's NAB AFL Draft, five years after being overlooked by all 18 clubs in his draft year.

It has been a dramatic turn of events for the country football star, who turns 23 on Wednesday.

Richards has never played a minute of state league football, but established himself as one of the best players in the Ovens and Murray Football League this year, winning a third best and fairest and second premiership for the Wangaratta Magpies, after a best-on-ground performance in an interleague game.
AFL.com.au understands that Richards has met with seven clubs, while others have indirectly expressed interest in the only prospect from local football to be invited to the draft combine.

The 176cm midfielder received that late invite to the state combine last month – which arrived via email days after winning the premiership – following a season where he gradually built a case for recruiters to head to the north-east of Victoria, where a few were spotted during the finals series.
Now there is a belief from some clubs that Richards will be taken in the second round, potentially even before pick No.30.

"When I was at Bushies in the NAB League I didn’t have any contact with any clubs, it has just come about this year," Richards told AFL.com.au on Monday.

"This year has been the first year where I've spoken to any club and it sort of came about three months ago when the first club reached out. Since then, I've spoken to more. It has been a really interesting time."

Geelong has a long history of plucking left-field options and is understood to have contemplated recruiting Richards ahead of the NAB AFL Mid-Season Rookie Draft in June, but it was unable to act given he was ineligible.
It was only after a talent manager from the Murray Bushrangers called Richards out of the blue that he realised he was on the radar of an AFL club. That led to him finding someone to represent him in the form of John Meesen from Kapital Sports. Things have certainly progressed since then.

"In the pre-season I hadn't even thought about the prospect of being drafted," Richards said.

"It sort of came about halfway through the year when I linked up with John Meesen after he heard there was a little bit of interest there. That's when it came to light. Since then, it has slowly unravelled. A quarter of a way through the footy season was when it kicked into gear."
Richmond, Greater Western Sydney, Collingwood, Sydney and the Western Bulldogs are believed to be among the clubs who have spoken to Richards or those around him, with plenty of interest sparked after he published a video of his 2022 highlights on YouTube in September.

Mature-age recruits aren't new, but most are drafted out of a state league, not a powerhouse league in country Victoria. So where has the meteoric rise come from?

Richards chose to play for his local club after his time at the Murray Bushrangers finished in 2017, returning full-time to Wangaratta where he kicked 11 goals in just his third senior game as a 16-year-old.

He moved to Melbourne to join Josh Fraser's program with Carlton's reserves at the start of 2020 before the season was shut down due to the pandemic and he returned home.

After starting his senior career in the Ovens and Murray League closer to goal, Richards has developed into a game-breaking midfielder, averaging 25 disposals, six tackles, six inside 50s and five clearances – ranked in the top 10 for all categories according to Premier Data – from 19 appearances in 2022.
Richards played in a flag this year with 2010 Collingwood premiership defender Ben Reid – who was the playing coach – ex-Demon Michael Newton and former Richmond and Carlton forward Callum Moore.

Reid started fielding calls midway through the season and knew recruiters were dotted around the outer watching Richards late in the campaign.

Those who have followed Richards closely see some similarities between him and Collingwood star Steele Sidebottom, citing his polished kicking ability on both feet – and his deep range of kicks – plus a clever ability to bounce on both sides of his body.
Richards' rise has drawn similarities with four-time premiership wingman Isaac Smith, who was drafted by Hawthorn with pick No.19 at 21 after dominating for Redan in the Ballarat Football League. Unlike Richards, Smith played a handful of games for North Ballarat in the second half of that season.

If his name is read out next week, it will be one of the most memorable stories to emerge from the 2022 NAB AFL Draft, even if Richards isn't daring to dream just yet.

"To be honest, I haven't thought too much about the whole story about the potential of being drafted out of country footy," he said. "If it does happen, I'll think about it over the Christmas break. I've just enjoyed the whole experience."

Only a few of months after appearing a long shot of being drafted, it appears to be a matter of when, not if, for the teacher's aide from Wangaratta District Specialist School.
 
VitalDread said:
My non-educated guess for the first round

North 1. Aaron Cademan
North 2. Harry Sheezel
North 3. George Wardlaw
Lions 4. Lions Bid Accepted Will Ashcroft
Bombers 5. Tsatas
GC 6. Busslinger
Hawks 7. Phillipou
Geelong 8. McKenzie
West Coast 9. Ginbey
Saint Kilda 10. Humphrey
Carlton 11. Jhye Clark (geelong falcons)
Bulldogs 12. Hollands
West Coast 13. Ed Allan
Melbourne 14. Jefferons
Swans 15. Cowan
GWS 16. Weddle
Collingwood 17. Hayes
Bombers 18. Match Swans bid for Davey Jr
Swans 19. Hewett
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If Ashcroft makes it to 4 I will murder people throw up.
 
hatescaptcha said:
Definitely think Suns will go hard for our pick if Hollands is available.
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If we could get the Suns future first for 11, and then trade ours or Brisbane's future first to Sydney or GWS for one of their firsts that could be a good result. I still expect the Suns to be bottom 10 next year and possibly bottom 5
 
Bulldogs85 said:
So we are one of the clubs that have spoken to him

JOE RICHARDS had never spoken to an AFL club until a few months ago, but now the schoolteacher from Wangaratta looms as the biggest bolter heading into next week's NAB AFL Draft, five years after being overlooked by all 18 clubs in his draft year.

It has been a dramatic turn of events for the country football star, who turns 23 on Wednesday.

Richards has never played a minute of state league football, but established himself as one of the best players in the Ovens and Murray Football League this year, winning a third best and fairest and second premiership for the Wangaratta Magpies, after a best-on-ground performance in an interleague game.
AFL.com.au understands that Richards has met with seven clubs, while others have indirectly expressed interest in the only prospect from local football to be invited to the draft combine.

The 176cm midfielder received that late invite to the state combine last month – which arrived via email days after winning the premiership – following a season where he gradually built a case for recruiters to head to the north-east of Victoria, where a few were spotted during the finals series.
Now there is a belief from some clubs that Richards will be taken in the second round, potentially even before pick No.30.

"When I was at Bushies in the NAB League I didn’t have any contact with any clubs, it has just come about this year," Richards told AFL.com.au on Monday.

"This year has been the first year where I've spoken to any club and it sort of came about three months ago when the first club reached out. Since then, I've spoken to more. It has been a really interesting time."

Geelong has a long history of plucking left-field options and is understood to have contemplated recruiting Richards ahead of the NAB AFL Mid-Season Rookie Draft in June, but it was unable to act given he was ineligible.
It was only after a talent manager from the Murray Bushrangers called Richards out of the blue that he realised he was on the radar of an AFL club. That led to him finding someone to represent him in the form of John Meesen from Kapital Sports. Things have certainly progressed since then.

"In the pre-season I hadn't even thought about the prospect of being drafted," Richards said.

"It sort of came about halfway through the year when I linked up with John Meesen after he heard there was a little bit of interest there. That's when it came to light. Since then, it has slowly unravelled. A quarter of a way through the footy season was when it kicked into gear."
Richmond, Greater Western Sydney, Collingwood, Sydney and the Western Bulldogs are believed to be among the clubs who have spoken to Richards or those around him, with plenty of interest sparked after he published a video of his 2022 highlights on YouTube in September.

Mature-age recruits aren't new, but most are drafted out of a state league, not a powerhouse league in country Victoria. So where has the meteoric rise come from?

Richards chose to play for his local club after his time at the Murray Bushrangers finished in 2017, returning full-time to Wangaratta where he kicked 11 goals in just his third senior game as a 16-year-old.

He moved to Melbourne to join Josh Fraser's program with Carlton's reserves at the start of 2020 before the season was shut down due to the pandemic and he returned home.

After starting his senior career in the Ovens and Murray League closer to goal, Richards has developed into a game-breaking midfielder, averaging 25 disposals, six tackles, six inside 50s and five clearances – ranked in the top 10 for all categories according to Premier Data – from 19 appearances in 2022.
Richards played in a flag this year with 2010 Collingwood premiership defender Ben Reid – who was the playing coach – ex-Demon Michael Newton and former Richmond and Carlton forward Callum Moore.

Reid started fielding calls midway through the season and knew recruiters were dotted around the outer watching Richards late in the campaign.

Those who have followed Richards closely see some similarities between him and Collingwood star Steele Sidebottom, citing his polished kicking ability on both feet – and his deep range of kicks – plus a clever ability to bounce on both sides of his body.
Richards' rise has drawn similarities with four-time premiership wingman Isaac Smith, who was drafted by Hawthorn with pick No.19 at 21 after dominating for Redan in the Ballarat Football League. Unlike Richards, Smith played a handful of games for North Ballarat in the second half of that season.

If his name is read out next week, it will be one of the most memorable stories to emerge from the 2022 NAB AFL Draft, even if Richards isn't daring to dream just yet.

"To be honest, I haven't thought too much about the whole story about the potential of being drafted out of country footy," he said. "If it does happen, I'll think about it over the Christmas break. I've just enjoyed the whole experience."

Only a few of months after appearing a long shot of being drafted, it appears to be a matter of when, not if, for the teacher's aide from Wangaratta District Specialist School.
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This is the exact opposite of anyone we should be targeting.
 

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Fox Footy article mentions us about who we are interested with at our picks.

Allan is one of several players in the Dogs’ sights with the 12th pick, with rivals also linking the club to top Tasmanian prospect Lachie Cowan, WA defender Jedd Busslinger and gun two-way midfielder Oliver Hollands – should the latter not be snapped up by Carlton with the previous pick. Sandringham Dragons mid-forward Olli Hotton also has interest from the Bulldogs, although more likely with their second-round pick.
 
ossie_21 said:
This is the exact opposite of anyone we should be targeting.
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We need a small forward, although I'd preference a pressure forward over a guy who started as a small forward but then progressed to the midfield.

Given our interview of Leary it sounds like we're set to go tall with one of our first two picks, and look at small forward options at our third pick
 
ossie_21 said:
This is the exact opposite of anyone we should be targeting.
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His highlights package is impressive, which obviously doesn’t mean everything for a couple of reasons, but I think this one is better left to the professionals.

As casual viewers it’s much easier to get an idea of how an 18 year olds performances at state or u18 level can transfer to the big stage. That’s just not the case in the situation. Picking him is obviously a risk because of the level he comes from so if the club recruiters have made the assessment that his game will transfer to the top level I don’t think any casual is qualified to question it.
 

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My bet is we pick Ed Allan. Bev has spent the past few years really looking for more pace in the side. Late bloomer, raw talent. The smoke linking him and us seems stronger than the loose "Dogs interested in defender and wingman because they need those players" stuff elsewhere re: Hollands/Buss.

It would be a very us pick.
 
ossie_21 said:
This is the exact opposite of anyone we should be targeting.
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It depends. AFL clubs might see him more of a small forward. He's playing in a country league so he'd be able to dominate any part of the ground. He definitely has small forward traits and is clearly pretty good around goal.

"The speedy small midfielder is a strong runner, blending his explosive pace with a high work rate to produce productive run-and-carry into attack. He's a player with weapons, possessing handy skills and a decent mark for a player his size, compounding the impact he has with ball in hand.

Richards is the type who hurts the opposition, having booted 29 goals in 11 games for Wangaratta this year. He burst onto the scene with a remarkable bag of 11 back in just his third senior game, and has gone on to establish himself as one of the competition's premier players."
 
Dannnnnnnnnn said:
My bet is we pick Ed Allan. Bev has spent the past few years really looking for more pace in the side. Late bloomer, raw talent. The smoke linking him and us seems stronger than the loose "Dogs interested in defender and wingman because they need those players" stuff elsewhere re: Hollands/Buss.

It would be a very us pick.
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100% agree
 
I expect us to take a winger, mid forward / small forward and a KPD; in that order.

IF Hollands and Allan are gone, then Ginbey or Humphrey will be available at our first pick.

George, Hotton, Konstanty, Jones & Clarke will be around our next pick.

Van Es or Phillips for the last pick.


Not that this excites me but I don’t know how the players are like off field, so I can’t make a complete judgment on their draft worthiness.
 
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