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List Mgmt. 2022 List Management and trading thread

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Mutineer said:
If you look at the Combine results over the years there's not a whole lot of top end footballers that have top end speed..Of course you can draft players with speed but can they football.

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Thanks for this.
Considering the state of the list during this time and being in a rebuild theres a few guys I would have preferred we take a chance on.

Do you need Murphy, Rowe and McHenry on the same list for instance.

The 3 for me and there would be others just outside this list are Sharp, Maher and Knevitt.
Maher didn't get drafted and not sure where or how he's travelling now but he could have been rookied.

Sharp kicking let him down at times but outside run and decent size.

Knevitt not sure how he's travelling at Geelong but would be polar opposite to what we generally draft.

Yes Berry has very good acceleration.

Not sure why we dont try and put the ball in Hamills hands more.
 
ABAB said:
We already moved him to HF and he looked a lot better before he did his ACL so very doubtful we will put him back into the midfield especially after recovering from an ACL and moving Crouch to the "bin".
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Who does he replace at half forward then?
Ideally, our forward line in 2023 should look something like:

Rachele Thilthorpe Walker
Keays Fog McAdam

Or something like that.

I'd want Gollant before Sloane.
I'd want Pedlar before Sloane.
I'd want Newchurch before Sloane.
Then you have the MUST pick players like McHenry and Murphy. He can't go before them!

Moving him to the forward line just causes the same issue in a different part of the field.
 

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1990crow said:
There's too much noise. Reckon he's ours.
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Could be wishful thinking but with Rankine still not signed and the JHF talk still around, I have no interest in the draft this year, decent chance we won't be prominent.

George Kramer said:
Are you alluding to knowing something or just the speculation
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Just the speculation
 
I'm unsure if JHF is playing below himself at the moment because he's unhappy with his situation or if he was just massively overrated because he played every week in the SANFL when all the Vic kids were shut down with Covid.
 
ams4crows said:
I'm unsure if JHF is playing below himself at the moment because he's unhappy with his situation or if he was just massively overrated because he played every week in the SANFL when all the Vic kids were shut down with Covid.
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For the record I doubt we get JHF, but that’s bullshit.

He’s played quite well all year, North have put far too much pressure on an 18 year old. He should be playing 75% forward with the odd burst in the midfield.

Few posters on other parts of the forum said they saw his VFL game and all of them immediately concluded that he should never play that level again.

Hypothetically if we did get him, and Laird, Berry, Keays etc we’re able to do the real grunt work for him I think he’d flourish in that stoppage/forward of the ball type role.
 

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Gtowncrow said:
For anyone who hasn't listened to the Rory Sloane Q&A about a week ago, you should do it. It's on the club website.

He's not planning retirement at all. Or the SANFL. He's planning to be 100 percent in round 1 and is looking forward to playing forward, midfield and wing next year AND "a couple more years after that hopefully".
Furthermore, on the experience topic, he said that if he and Seed were playing this year, we wouldn't have lost as many games this year. I also detected a flawed and biased outlook when he was asked which ex-crow he would bring back to the club if he could. He chose his mate Danger!
Entitlement? Senior players clique? Very bad answer as Danger is as cooked as any of the Geelong veterans.

The segment is only 15 minutes long and left me feeling that we have a potential problem brewing. His attitude was alarmingly contradictory to the vast majority of us in here.

I'm open minded about whether he captain's or plays next year. I'm worried though he appeared so deluded to his importance to us going forward.

Listen and make your own mind up.
It's worth its own thread actually.
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If a player is actively saying a club wouldn't have won more if they are fit/selected, they're mentally finished.

Good on Sloane for aiming to last as long as he can. I can't see it going anywhere other then a retirement at the end of 2023, but it's a better situation then a lad who knows it's his last season and is just here for the paycheck in the SANFL.
 
NSolis said:
Yeah I think you always have to think about what he could have said as an alternative. Sloane is a 200 game veteran who has been VC of the AA team, he's not going to be thinking of his rehab from a potentially career-ending ACL as being about coming back to play SANFL, so he's not going to be sitting there saying he's probably cooked but he hopes can be good injury cover. His goal will be to get back to his best, where he would obviously be best 22 because he was a great player, and he's going to reflect that goal in any comments he makes. It's up to the club to determine what sort of contribution he can make when he returns.
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By the end of the year he’d have missed 41 of a possible 88 games since his god father contract that made him the 13th highest paid player in the afl despite not being in the best 125 players


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Ok hear me out but if (and I know it’s a big if) Collingwood are desperate to get Grundy’s $1m x5 years contract off their books and we were prepared to pay all of it (which should be possible for us at this stage) would they pay us their first rounder this year (say pick 15 +/-) as salary dump compensation to do the deal? This would allow them to target FAs like McStay and maybe even keep De Goey.

If they were and we could then trade ROB for a second rounder then we could effectively give up $400K pa in salary cap (Grundy $1m less ROB ~$600K) and get a 1st and 2nd round pick in return and have a superior ruckman.

Those picks could make the difference in having trade capital for JHF and or Rankine.

Worth getting creative for I reckon.
 

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Bob Neil said:
Ok hear me out but if (and I know it’s a big if) Collingwood are desperate to get Grundy’s $1m x5 years contract off their books and we were prepared to pay all of it (which should be possible for us at this stage) would they pay us their first rounder this year (say pick 15 +/-) as salary dump compensation to do the deal? This would allow them to target FAs like McStay and maybe even keep De Goey.

If they were and we could then trade ROB for a second rounder then we could effectively give up $400K pa in salary cap (Grundy $1m less ROB ~$600K) and get a 1st and 2nd round pick in return and have a superior ruckman.

Those picks could make the difference in having trade capital for JHF and or Rankine.

Worth getting creative for I reckon.
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I highly doubt ROB is on $600k a year..

and if he is.. we need to shoot the morons running the club.
 
Bearded Clam said:
I highly doubt ROB is on $600k a year..

and if he is.. we need to shoot the morons running the club.
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Probably is considering his contract was out in 2020 and the club was entering a position where it would be struggling to meet the cap floor for the forseeable future.
 
Bob Neil said:
Ok hear me out but if (and I know it’s a big if) Collingwood are desperate to get Grundy’s $1m x5 years contract off their books and we were prepared to pay all of it (which should be possible for us at this stage) would they pay us their first rounder this year (say pick 15 +/-) as salary dump compensation to do the deal? This would allow them to target FAs like McStay and maybe even keep De Goey.
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That’s about what it would cost to dump his contract
 
rubbers0ul said:
By the end of the year he’d have missed 41 of a possible 88 games since his god father contract that made him the 13th highest paid player in the afl despite not being in the best 125 players


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Have you forgotten his 2017 season before he re-signed in 2018 and he is the captain so will be the highest paid player at the club.
 
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