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List Mgmt. 2022 Trade Thread - Part III

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stavro#4 said:
Adelaide Crows veteran Matt Crouch is reportedly pondering whether to request a trade in the next few days, with interest from three clubs.

Yeah… I’m sweating

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The other Crow who has come up is Elliott Himmelberg who has fallen behind a couple at the crows. 24yo and 200cm forward who can ruck would be a reasonable choice.
 
stavro#4 said:
Adelaide Crows veteran Matt Crouch is reportedly pondering whether to request a trade in the next few days, with interest from three clubs.

Yeah… I’m sweating

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Pray Oh No GIF by The Tonight Show Starring Jimmy Fallon
 
saint66au said:
Bringing in established players in 2019/2020 was an admission that our drafting over the previous decade or more had been a fustercluck. If Acres, Dunstan, Billings, and McCartin had 10AA's and B&Fs between them now. we'd not have needed to go down that path. It was a calculated gamble that, like most we try, had very limited success.

The Club seem to now have now acknowledged that by publicly changing tack and concentrating on the draft. The only players weve seriously looked at this Trade period have been FA's.

The same people who scream "WE NEED TO BRING IN ELITE TALENT!" would be the same people who grizzle we don't have a draft pick until 10pm on Night 2.
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So you're saying we keep ****ing shit up, so what. Just stop whinging? Honestly the best thing about this trade period is a few crap staff are being shown up and should get pushed out. If you keep making mistakes and not fixing the structural issues you are not serious about wanting success.

We let a sacked media manger review our list and be the architect of a new one. Completely botched it so we have promoted him to a spot where he can't break as much stuff. We kept the 2IC in our recruiting department even after we realised that they'd botched 10 years worth of drafts.

You don't have to draft elite talent, you can trade for it as well. On top of that we should be trying to constantly upgrade the weak links with better players through trades and free agency at the same time.

We are king to have to rely on coaching improvements and internal growth to move forward next year because it looks like we haven't been able to make any obvious list improvements.
 

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billings2paddy said:
This trade period will be an F so far possibly and E at best
We will need to do something amazing like get hopper to get to a B level
If we don't next season will be disappointing
2020 6th
2021 2022 10th
Port,Gold Coast perhaps even Essendon will improve next year
We could easily finish 12th to 16th 2023 depending on the draw given to us by the afl due to our irrelevancy to the rest of the afl competition
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How do we get these payers to Saints if we are concentrating on the Draft.
 
MordySaint said:
Where we place ourselves on the "ladder of lifestyle options".

What I am portraying is the club needs to make playing and life in the SE suburbs of Melbourne more attractive. It's becoming completely obvious to everyone that throwing a huge amount of money at players is not working.

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That statement is going to go down well with inner northern hipster elites like ScrappyDo
 
kernelT said:
It doesn't add up does it? Same as Carltons list.

Cameron, Danger, Selwood, Hawkins, Duncan, Guthrie, Tuohy, Higgins, Smith, Stewart.

Then these guys wouldn't be on peanuts - Stanley, Parfitt, Ceglar, Menegola, Dahlhaus, Blicsavs, Henry

Carlton has massive deals for Cerra, Wiliams, Cripps, McGovern, Docherty, Walsh, Martin, Weitering, Curnow, Saad. then a host of medium range salary players.
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Cameron is 50 acres 15 minutes from training.. Probably got a great deal from a connection at the club.. I'm guessing there's a lot of that kinda thing going on..
 
billings2paddy said:
This trade period will be an F so far possibly and E at best
We will need to do something amazing like get hopper to get to a B level
If we don't next season will be disappointing
2020 6th
2021 2022 10th
Port,Gold Coast perhaps even Essendon will improve next year
We could easily finish 12th to 16th 2023 depending on the draw given to us by the afl due to our irrelevancy to the rest of the afl competition
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Why do we need to land a big trade to have a successful trade period? Couldn't it be seen as a success that we didn't make a trade for the sake of a trade? We could offer dumb money to a GWS mid and probably land one, but does it make sense?
saint66au said:
The Club seem to now have now acknowledged that by publicly changing tack and concentrating on the draft. The only players weve seriously looked at this Trade period have been FA's.
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Or perhaps the club may recognize that our days of poor development might be behind us, and now is the time to hit the draft to develop from within. I don't care enough to look into it, but I suspect most Premiership winning teams have homegrown stars leading the charge rather than hired mercenaries.
 

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stavro#4 said:
Adelaide Crows veteran Matt Crouch is reportedly pondering whether to request a trade in the next few days, with interest from three clubs.

Yeah… I’m sweating

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No chance of us getting him unless the Crows delist him. Even then there's probably no chance. We definitely won't be giving up a pick for him.
 
As much as he would have fit a need, Esava's stats are insanely average. Seem to remember Cats fans absolutely hating him. Don't think it's a big miss.
 
austinnn said:
Only one reason a professional AFL trade has a tradie van with no windows in back.

Homemade meth lab.

Dan Butler is Heisenberg.
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He is the Danger. Danger Danger. Butler Butler Butler.
 
MordySaint said:
So you say we paid overs for Hill, and in the next sentence you say you would rather Hill over Acres.

That's contradictory.

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No it's not, they are two separate issues.

I don't count Acres, shown not to be wanted by two clubs. We paid overs in dp's.
A simple comparison between Hill and Acres would show Hill is easily the better player.
 
lewdogs said:
As much as he would have fit a need, Esava's stats are insanely average. Seem to remember Cats fans absolutely hating him. Don't think it's a big miss.
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Port are getting him to play as a key defender to play on the big forwards, time will tell on how he goes I guess.
 

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billings2paddy said:
By maximising the return in trade value of the players we have chosen to trade
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We have traded one and we got overs for him.
Clark and Hill aren't being traded because there was no talk from Hill and we would only accept overs for Clark.
Who else are we trading? Bytel? You expect anything more than a 3rd?
 
Channel Seven’s Mitch Cleary believes GWS could be open to trading Lachie Whitfield.

Whitfield, 28, still has five years left on a bumper seven-year deal with the Giants and shedding his sizeable contract could help the club refresh.
While the outside player hasn’t been officially linked to any move, Cleary believes the length of contract and amount owing to Whitfield could convince the Giants to trade him if a suitor emerges.

“I think deep down the Giants would be open to trading Lachie Whitfield,” Cleary said on SEN Mornings.

“As you say, it’s just a matter of finding a suitor, but things can emerge late in trade periods, clubs get desperate.”

After missing out on free agent Jordan De Goey, Cleary believes a club like St Kilda could emerge as a suitor for Whitfield, particularly as they’ve announced their ambitions to add more top-end talent to their list.

“Look at St Kilda, they started and walked in day one of the trade period on Monday and said, ‘We’re here for more A-grade talent, we’ve got good players, but we need better players’,” Cleary said.

“But right now, all they’ve brought in is Zaine Cordy and they missed on Jordan De Goey.”

Considering St Kilda has the money available that they would’ve spent on De Goey, Cleary feels they have the cap space to take Whitfield’s contract on.

“They obviously had $850,000 – 900,000 sitting in their salary cap for Jordan De Goey and he hasn’t taken that, so would a club like St Kilda get involved for Lachie Whitfield?,” Cleary asked.

“He’s got links there, Gubby (Graeme) Allen spent time with Lachie Whitfield at the Giants, we know what those two have been through together.

“So, I wouldn’t be surprised if a club came late for Lachie Whitfield, I don’t think it’s happened yet.

“But I think the Giants would be open to those conversations if it was to emerge.”

AFL Media’s Cal Twomey believes Whitfield or defender Nick Haynes could be put on the trade table if Richmond aren’t able to land a trade for midfielder Jacob Hopper.

Is gettable Giant the “A-grade” recruit Saints should target?

“Would a club like St Kilda get involved for Lachie Whitfield?”
www.sen.com.au www.sen.com.au
 
SaintWWodonga said:
Channel Seven’s Mitch Cleary believes GWS could be open to trading Lachie Whitfield.

Whitfield, 28, still has five years left on a bumper seven-year deal with the Giants and shedding his sizeable contract could help the club refresh.
While the outside player hasn’t been officially linked to any move, Cleary believes the length of contract and amount owing to Whitfield could convince the Giants to trade him if a suitor emerges.

“I think deep down the Giants would be open to trading Lachie Whitfield,” Cleary said on SEN Mornings.

“As you say, it’s just a matter of finding a suitor, but things can emerge late in trade periods, clubs get desperate.”

After missing out on free agent Jordan De Goey, Cleary believes a club like St Kilda could emerge as a suitor for Whitfield, particularly as they’ve announced their ambitions to add more top-end talent to their list.

“Look at St Kilda, they started and walked in day one of the trade period on Monday and said, ‘We’re here for more A-grade talent, we’ve got good players, but we need better players’,” Cleary said.

“But right now, all they’ve brought in is Zaine Cordy and they missed on Jordan De Goey.”

Considering St Kilda has the money available that they would’ve spent on De Goey, Cleary feels they have the cap space to take Whitfield’s contract on.

“They obviously had $850,000 – 900,000 sitting in their salary cap for Jordan De Goey and he hasn’t taken that, so would a club like St Kilda get involved for Lachie Whitfield?,” Cleary asked.

“He’s got links there, Gubby (Graeme) Allen spent time with Lachie Whitfield at the Giants, we know what those two have been through together.

“So, I wouldn’t be surprised if a club came late for Lachie Whitfield, I don’t think it’s happened yet.

“But I think the Giants would be open to those conversations if it was to emerge.”

AFL Media’s Cal Twomey believes Whitfield or defender Nick Haynes could be put on the trade table if Richmond aren’t able to land a trade for midfielder Jacob Hopper.

Is gettable Giant the “A-grade” recruit Saints should target?

“Would a club like St Kilda get involved for Lachie Whitfield?”
www.sen.com.au www.sen.com.au
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Do not want 5 years of whitfield. He would just become the next Hill and it's hard to imagine him living up to the contract.

Just because we have money does not mean we need to spend it.

2 years of Nick Haynes would be nice though (even if he is older).
 

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