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vidwhal said:
I think you're kinda echoing Ppljss but from a different angle but I think Ppljss is more on the money in that I don't think JL was even trying to be creative, where as you're saying JL CHOSE not to be creative, correct me if I'm wrong. In the end, you're likely right that JL wanted to maintain structure more than anything, and that just fine for a young team. My angle is just suggesting that moving AP could have been perceived as a good move, if he was able to perform. I think the overall quality of the team on the day, didn't help him play well. Whether it was Cox or Pearce, well, that's always debatable.
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It actually wasn't my comment about Longmuir keeping the forward structure by playing a 200cm player, but it does look like that was the plan. Walkingwounded from memory. And my singular point in terms of this discussion is that it is a conservative move designed to stick to the existing structure.

Walkingwounded said:
If I recall, the thought process was around keeping the game plan as similar to what they had been training. Ie a >200cm marking forward in goal square with Tabs roaming at CHF.
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And it also wasn't my comment that he was trying to be creative playing Pearce forward. That was Scham. I am disagreeing with it being creative and as you and Walkingwounded indicate quite likely not intended to be creative, more a practical solution.

Scham said:
Playing Pearce at FF last year was a big surprise for me. I think JL is plenty creative enough.
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My only real criticism of the move was that Pearce is injury prone so I didn't like the idea of playing him in an unfamiliar role. As a defender you can straight line contests much more than you can as a forward. Forwards also get physically targeted by defenders way more than the other way round, and I'd keep Pearce away from that until has re-established himself.

Anyway... How about Boland eh!
 

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theGav56 said:
Be really interesting to see if he has an impact pre-season. Probably lacking the run Longmuir wants, but still could be handy depth.
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Will has good hands though, looking at the midfield the run should come from Brayshaw, Serong.
Fyfe, Mundy will play their way, I hope to see Brodie as an accumulator, defensive side.
With Sean using his bulk, rucking skills to create clean ball.
Under Lyon we created stoppages, dirty ball forward, under JLo I expect our run to be better from HB and the wings.
Create space for the forwards, and honour leads.
Lyon had a problem with outside run, skilled based gameplan.
Jlo will have the opposite, and that’s why it’s nice to see Brodie,
Erasmus, Benning added to the squad.






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freo99 said:
Is that Karl Worner behind Joel Hamling

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Due to Victoria being an extreme risk rating for some time I would be betting that Karl Worner has not made the trip over yet. Probably unable to travel until Feb 5th but this is just my guess.

On the very positive side, notice that Erasmus is right next to Brayshaw in the picture and I can assure you he has been following him around as well before Chrissy. He wants to debut round one no doubt. How exciting!
 
freoextra said:
Due to Victoria being an extreme risk rating for some time I would be betting that Karl Worner has not made the trip over yet. Probably unable to travel until Feb 5th but this is just my guess.

On the very positive side, notice that Erasmus is right next to Brayshaw in the picture and I can assure you he has been following him around as well before Chrissy. He wants to debut round one no doubt. How exciting!
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Chesser joined WC yesterday, but he is from Albury/Wodonga, so may actually be nsw.
 
theGav56 said:
It actually wasn't my comment about Longmuir keeping the forward structure by playing a 200cm player, but it does look like that was the plan. Walkingwounded from memory. And my singular point in terms of this discussion is that it is a conservative move designed to stick to the existing structure.



And it also wasn't my comment that he was trying to be creative playing Pearce forward. That was Scham. I am disagreeing with it being creative and as you and Walkingwounded indicate quite likely not intended to be creative, more a practical solution.



My only real criticism of the move was that Pearce is injury prone so I didn't like the idea of playing him in an unfamiliar role. As a defender you can straight line contests much more than you can as a forward. Forwards also get physically targeted by defenders way more than the other way round, and I'd keep Pearce away from that until has re-established himself.

Anyway... How about Boland eh!
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What can I say, my memory's shot lol
I guess if JLs gameplan ends up being a real winner via a strong structure/method, we'll probably only need to make conservative changes [emoji106]
 

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vidwhal said:
What can I say, my memory's shot lol
I guess if JLs gameplan ends up being a real winner via a strong structure/method, we'll probably only need to make conservative changes [emoji106]
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The basis of winning football is conservative. Most players want clarity about what they should be doing. Harvey confused the players. I think a conservative coach with a group of good football brains around him, especially forward coach and midfield, is a good combination. But football throws up new ways to win and lose every season.
 
theGav56 said:
The basis of winning football is conservative. Most players want clarity about what they should be doing. Harvey confused the players. I think a conservative coach with a group of good football brains around him, especially forward coach and midfield, is a good combination. But football throws up new ways to win and lose every season.
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So true. If Ross hadn't been such a pig head and was brave enough to have tolerated and listened to creative assistants it would have been a lethal coaching setup
 
freoextra said:
On the very positive side, notice that Erasmus is right next to Brayshaw in the picture and I can assure you he has been following him around as well before Chrissy. He wants to debut round one no doubt. How exciting!
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This great to see. Our list management has handled the availability of on field mentors beautifully over the past few years. There seems to be a transition happening right now from the old guard to the new especially in the area of mentoring.

Certainly doesn't hurt having Brayshaw and Serong both of whom exude leadership, but they have been encouraged to show it.
 

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Enjoyed reading this. A little surprised that Brayshaw, Serong and Young are heavily profiled but Darcy omitted. There's at least some chance he breaks into the AA ahead of all of them and is probably our most important individual player, and performing well ahead of where he should be at his age.

The aspect that I think drives our optimism is that there is a development layer underneath those players which is deep, talented and focused. Most critical, that includes Logue, Chapman, Treacy and Amiss who may provide the basis of a spine, or support for the incumbent KPPs.

The other characteristics that drives optimism in the purple ranks relates to speed and character, both of which are facets of almost all recruiting. They present points of difference from the past, represent a defining game style which so far has been in search of clarity, and speaks to a longer vision and a stronger ambition of a club. We can see where we are headed, and we can see the progress.
 
theGav56 said:
Fyfe to the hbf. NOW we're talking creativity!
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I wouldn't mind he does a Walters and rotates between HBF and mid. Especially if we can fast track the development of the new kids. Only problem with that is I actually believe Fyfe has another brownlow in him so playing him at HBF may prevent him from achieving that.
 
wakojako said:
I wouldn't mind he does a Walters and rotates between HBF and mid. Especially if we can fast track the development of the new kids. Only problem with that is I actually believe Fyfe has another brownlow in him so playing him at HBF may prevent him from achieving that.
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Agree. Needs to push his average beyond 1 again.
 
wakojako said:
I wouldn't mind he does a Walters and rotates between HBF and mid. Especially if we can fast track the development of the new kids. Only problem with that is I actually believe Fyfe has another brownlow in him so playing him at HBF may prevent him from achieving that.
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Leave him in the middle to maximise his impact, when he’s not in the middle he should be on the bench having a breather. He gave up valuable time to fast track Brayshaw and Cerra and look how that turned out. With Fyfe, Mundy, Brayshaw and Serong we have a fantastic foursome that would match most midfields in the comp. This is the year to unleash it and see how far we can go.
 
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