Training 2022 Training Reports

[ilikepotatoes]

Why’s that?

Because of how fit the squad looks this year.

I think it's a trend over the whole league fwiw.

 

[theGav56]

Noddy looks like he needs to trim the body fat a bit more next pre season. That Clayton Oliver build haha

As Taylor pointed out it is his first pre-season. He's going to be good. I like his kamikaze style.

 

[FreoRicci]

Not quite sure where to put this. But thought was apt for the thread.
Quite a few players have mentioned this in the off season a bit.
Kept exactly what Jlo was checking when seeing the headline

'Every time you open the AFL app': The reminder that burns Longmuir

 

[blue shark]

Not quite sure where to put this. But thought was apt for the thread.
Quite a few players have mentioned this in the off season a bit.
Kept exactly what Jlo was checking when seeing the headline

'Every time you open the AFL app': The reminder that burns Longmuir

That’s because we got out muscled, no pressure acts. Cerra didn’t play so it had nothing to do with him.
I still think we are one of the quickest teams around, but without the manic pressure acts, even if we make finals it will be Essendon like, out in straight sets.
The players drafted, traded suggest we are learning.

 

[FreoRicci]

That’s because we got out muscled, no pressure acts. Cerra didn’t play so it had nothing to do with him.
I still think we are one of the quickest teams around, but without the manic pressure acts, even if we make finals it will be Essendon like, out in straight sets.
The players drafted, traded suggest we are learning.

No question. Times like those games really wish Jlo had a tagger or run-with. Steele domianted and coaches refuse to play a man on him. I’d imagine in the future it’ll be different. But having Fyfe on Steele, for example, isn’t going to be ideal to win games. Have Serong, Bradshaw, Fyfe do their thing and add a Banfield type to protect the space.
Even throughout the season the midfield got dominated early and leaked clearances. Most games were over by the first quarter/half

 

[Hazelsnuts]

I think not. But I am biased and like players to get a decent grounding in the wafl. O'Driscoll arguably has that but wasn't bashing the door down last year, and there are several other wing options. Aish and Tucker locked in too.

I don’t know about Aish, has he done enough this pre-season or are we playing him on previous performances and coaching relationships?
May be unpopular but I don’t see Aish as best 22 come mid-season, he has been good, serviceable and fits the requirement of experience for the developing player group when we got him. At times he was very average.
IMO he shouldn’t be and won’t be part of our best 18 or 22 as the likes of O’Driscoll, Henry, Erasmus and later on Johnson progress quickly.

 

[ubiquitous226]

I don’t know about Aish, has he done enough this pre-season or are we playing him on previous performances and coaching relationships?
May be unpopular but I don’t see Aish as best 22 come mid-season, he has been good, serviceable and fits the requirement of experience for the developing player group when we got him. At times he was very average.
IMO he shouldn’t be and won’t be part of our best 18 or 22 as the likes of O’Driscoll, Henry, Erasmus and later on Johnson progress quickly.

I think he's the type that gets under-appreciated, he's a mature bodied player who understands the game and offers a lot of versatility.
He is isn't going to be a star in a particular role but I think he can hold down a few pretty decently.
There were a couple of games where he played the half back style role due to injuries where he did quite well though.

Longmuir referencing celebrating the selfless players immediately made me think of Aish and a couple of others.
It's all about the team at the end of the day, while the natural tendency for us on the sidelines (or TV) is to watch individual players.

Some of the players referenced might be more flashy but IMO are a long way off Aish in terms of the AFL package.
I sure don't mind if he gets pushed out though, because it means others have progressed significantly.

 

[E Shed]

Aish has got good game sense and footy IQ. He does everything well and stepped up at times in times of pressure last year.
He may not be flashy but he's very reliable.

 

[Spirit Level]

I remember someone posting a while ago that Aish wouldn't be in the top 10 of any club, but would be in the bottom 10 of the 22 for all of them.

Seems a pretty apt description

 

[theGav56]

I don’t know about Aish, has he done enough this pre-season or are we playing him on previous performances and coaching relationships?
May be unpopular but I don’t see Aish as best 22 come mid-season, he has been good, serviceable and fits the requirement of experience for the developing player group when we got him. At times he was very average.
IMO he shouldn’t be and won’t be part of our best 18 or 22 as the likes of O’Driscoll, Henry, Erasmus and later on Johnson progress quickly.

I'm not suggesting Aish has a job for life but none of the 4 you mentioned would be close to replacing him at the start of the year, and it's questionable if wing is their best position anyway.

Henry is the only one who has debuted for starters, and while I agree Aish had some ordinary games last year, Henry was less impressive, only managing to show glimpses of his potential.

 

[Vintage]

That’s because we got out muscled, no pressure acts. Cerra didn’t play so it had nothing to do with him.
I still think we are one of the quickest teams around, but without the manic pressure acts, even if we make finals it will be Essendon like, out in straight sets.
The players drafted, traded suggest we are learning.

its about mental attitude though, which is what JLo talks about in the article. Every team is capable of applying pressure when they are switched on mentally; it’s about making sure the team are doing that more of the time in more games - and yes part of that is drafting players with the right attitude, and moving on those who don’t have it.

 

[SupermanCapes]

I think it might end up being a good thing that the punters at Fox insist on us being worse this year than last. That sort of chat filters down to the team, no matter what they say about ignoring outside noise.

Let the boys get fired up that Max Laughton sees Cerra's departure as a bigger negative than the positives being earned by a full preseason for most of our young stars and the addition of a gun, rapid defender.

Optimism is growing on this board, and so it should, but outside we're still seen as perpetual battlers.

Looking forward to proving them wrong.

Injured gun’s key return; Demons’ luck must run out: The over-under call on every AFL club

Injured gun’s return; Demons’ fading luck: Over-under call on every AFL club

www.foxsports.com.au

 

[SHill Shall]

I think it might end up being a good thing that the punters at Fox insist on us being worse this year than last. That sort of chat filters down to the team, no matter what they say about ignoring outside noise.

Let the boys get fired up that Max Laughton sees Cerra's departure as a bigger negative than the positives being earned by a full preseason for most of our young stars and the addition of a gun, rapid defender.

Optimism is growing on this board, and so it should, but outside we're still seen as perpetual battlers.

Looking forward to proving them wrong.

Injured gun’s key return; Demons’ luck must run out: The over-under call on every AFL club

Injured gun’s return; Demons’ fading luck: Over-under call on every AFL club

www.foxsports.com.au

What staggers me is that no-one seems to uncover the fact that our midfield is already top 8 in quality despite us being the second youngest side. Just add a better injury run, more consistency and better forward connection/accuracy and we're monty's for at least 10 wins.

 

[MadDocker]

What staggers me is that no-one seems to uncover the fact that our midfield is already top 8 in quality despite us being the second youngest side. Just add a better injury run, more consistency and better forward connection/accuracy and we're monty's for at least 10 wins.

So if we were better at football we'd finish higher on the ladder? Nice.

 

[wakojako]

What staggers me is that no-one seems to uncover the fact that our midfield is already top 8 in quality despite us being the second youngest side. Just add a better injury run, more consistency and better forward connection/accuracy and we're monty's for at least 10 wins.

Our wings are average at best and our forwardline is not top 8 worthy.

 

[CapitalA]

Our wings are average at best and our forwardline is not top 8 worthy.

So you don't think we make finals?

 

[theGav56]

its about mental attitude though, which is what JLo talks about in the article. Every team is capable of applying pressure when they are switched on mentally; it’s about making sure the team are doing that more of the time in more games - and yes part of that is drafting players with the right attitude, and moving on those who don’t have it.

I think it is coaching.

 

[wakojako]

So you don't think we make finals?

Well this is based on where we left last season. We have a new forwardline coach and a new focus on goal kicking accuracy and pressure. I'm also excited by our new prospects and changes to our b22.

 

[theGav56]

Well this is based on where we left last season. We have a new forwardline coach and a new focus on goal kicking accuracy and pressure. I'm also excited by our new prospects and changes to our b22.

Got a few players coming in from the injury list who will be very handy.

 

[Dockeroo]

I notice from the training photos that Cox is a transformed man physically. He looks as skinny as joel Hamling

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Joel Hamling

Age

33

Ht

194cm

Wt

92kg

Pos.

D/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.6

3star

K

6.2

2star

HB

5.4

4star

M

5.0

5star

T

1.4

3star

No current season stats available

D

11.8

3star

K

7.6

3star

HB

4.2

4star

M

5.8

5star

T

1.0

3star

now!

 

[Hazelsnuts]

I'm not suggesting Aish has a job for life but none of the 4 you mentioned would be close to replacing him at the start of the year, and it's questionable if wing is their best position anyway.

Henry is the only one who has debuted for starters, and while I agree Aish had some ordinary games last year, Henry was less impressive, only managing to show glimpses of his potential.

Didn’t say start of the year, he will get his spot based on the status of the list, by mid to end of the year o expect other options to be better than Aish.
He was brought in as a stop gap - lieutenant type that JLo knew what he would dish up, our list moves past him by the end of the year.

 

[theGav56]

Didn’t say start of the year, he will get his spot based on the status of the list, by mid to end of the year o expect other options to be better than Aish.
He was brought in as a stop gap - lieutenant type that JLo knew what he would dish up, our list moves past him by the end of the year.

The through line for the posts are responding to the question about round 1 selection. Fine if you've diverged from that.

I think Aish is AFL quality. He is in the side on merit. When he gets pushed out by someone better we've moved forward.

 

[Walkingwounded]

Our wings are average at best and our forwardline is not top 8 worthy.

Dude, if you aren’t the most negative person on this board, then you are just a troll incognito.

I’m not going to get in a discussion with you on your points because I don’t think you will listen or understand.

Who do you support FFS,

I had a manger once who said, don’t give me opinions and observations, give me solutions..

Your in the opinions camp.

 

[SHill Shall]

Well this is based on where we left last season. We have a new forwardline coach and a new focus on goal kicking accuracy and pressure. I'm also excited by our new prospects and changes to our b22.

The article in question is attempting (somewhat poorly) to project forward. Your last couple of sentences are capturing the spirit!

 

[SupermanCapes]

Anybody got a screenshot of the article in the West about how our midfield is bottom 4? Wouldn't mind seeing how McGuane works that through before throwing my toys out the cot.