Prediction 2023 GWS Giants - Predicted best 22, breakout player(s), general player/team discussion & questions

[Giant Gutsache]

Our national broadcaster’s season summary in a couple of paragraphs after round 9. Was surprised that Kelly and Buckley were not mentioned in the list of our players having a good season.

It's been an interesting season so far for the Giants under new coach Adam Kingsley. The team has already won half as many games as they did in 2022, although after winning five quarters out of the first two games, GWS won just 10 quarters in the next seven matches.

Aside from the usual suspects like Toby Greene, Stephen Coniglio, Nick Haynes and Jesse Hogan, Tom Green is having a monster season and Finn Callaghan and recruit Xavier O'Halloran are becoming increasingly important — but making progress up the ladder will be hard.

'They will be hard to stop': Here's where each AFL club stands after nine rounds

Want a quick rundown on where your team is at after nine rounds of the AFL season? From flag favourites Collingwood to potential wooden spooners Hawthorn, Andrew McGarry sums up each side.

www.abc.net.au

Less surprising that Kelly and Buckley were overlooked for mention by a writer who describes XO as a recruit.

 

[Powkid]

Brent Stormy Daniels is now my fav Giant! Massively underrated imho.
Playing higher up the ground in more of a half forward role is working. When he is thrown in the centre later in games has immediate impact. Should Stormy spends more time in the midfield?


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[MelbourneGWS]

Nice article by the club about Toby as he gets ready to become only the second player in our history to play 200 games

Toby Greene: The Player, the Person, the Captain

Ahead of his 200th game, we find out what makes Toby Greene, Toby Greene.

www.gwsgiants.com.au

 

[Giant Strides]

This is from the ABC article on Harry Himmelberg (posted in the media thread, and his player thread). Thought the graphic was interesting, given where you can see Sam Taylor

15

Sam Taylor

Age

26

Ht

198cm

Wt

95kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

10.0

3star

K

4.6

2star

HB

5.4

4star

M

3.3

3star

T

2.1

4star

MG

130.5

2star

D

8.0

2star

K

2.5

1star

HB

5.5

3star

M

2.8

3star

T

2.5

3star

MG

60.8

1star

D

8.6

3star

K

3.0

1star

HB

5.6

4star

M

1.2

2star

T

2.8

5star

MG

110.8

2star

& Isaac Cumming

44

Isaac Cumming

Age

27

Ht

188cm

Wt

84kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.2

3star

K

6.0

2star

HB

5.2

4star

M

2.4

3star

T

2.3

4star

CL

1.0

3star

D

9.5

2star

K

5.0

2star

HB

4.5

3star

M

1.5

2star

T

2.5

3star

CL

0.0

1star

D

10.6

3star

K

5.6

3star

HB

5.0

4star

M

2.8

3star

T

2.6

4star

CL

1.2

4star

:

 

[PaythePerryman]

This is from the ABC article on Harry Himmelberg (posted in the media thread, and his player thread). Thought the graphic was interesting, given where you can see Sam Taylor & Isaac Cumming:

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Wow. Our backline talls are decimated ATM. Any chance we through Ricca back his week and bring in Derksen as a forward? I can't see an issue with that as I have no idea who else takes Hawkins

 

[Orange crush]

Wow. Our backline talls are decimated ATM. Any chance we through Ricca back his week and bring in Derksen as a forward? I can't see an issue with that as I have no idea who else takes Hawkins

Can Keefe take Porky?

 

[Giant Strides]

I haven't watched enough of the VFL games to see how Keeffe is moving at the moment, but he always worries me as not really flexible enough to take someone like Hawkins. Too much of a straight line runner IMHO. But, don't think Fleeton is big enough or experienced enough to combat him, and Haynes isn't really a 1-on-1 defender.

I'm of a view that Riccardi isn't really a great 1-on-1 defender either - when he got a lot of possessions in defence he was more in the Haynes-like intercepting role (IIRC). So, not really any good options for AK IMHO.

Any way you cut the team, though, I'd still like to see Derksen rewarded. He has also provided great secondary ruck service in VFL, so with HH out we can assess how he stands up at AFL level. I know Riccardi performed that role last game ... but I'm equivocal on having both Riccardi and Cadman up forward (even accounting Derksen would be on debut). It's also a case of thinking about longer term - if HH were to leave, can Derksen pick up a similar role?

 

[MelbourneGWS]

Cogs calling Toby our GOAT.

For Coniglio, Cameron is the only player that can challenge Greene for the best the Giants have had.

"Jeremy is the most special talent I've played with, but the best Giant is Toby," he said.

"Whether that be now at the 200-game mark or when he retires, he'll be the greatest Giants player that's ever played for the club."

Why Toby might be 'the greatest Giants player that's ever played'

Stephen Coniglio reflects on the career of fellow inaugural Giant and skipper Toby Greene ahead of his 200th game

www.afl.com.au

 

[Giant Pete]

Keeffe is the best matchup we currently have for Hawkins. Buckley a good matchup for Jez. We need to just have heaps of pressure on the ball and make sure we hit up the short leads when going inside 50… that’s one of the keys to beating Geelong at home.

 

[GWS Goose]

Cogs calling Toby our GOAT.

For Coniglio, Cameron is the only player that can challenge Greene for the best the Giants have had.

"Jeremy is the most special talent I've played with, but the best Giant is Toby," he said.

"Whether that be now at the 200-game mark or when he retires, he'll be the greatest Giants player that's ever played for the club."

Why Toby might be 'the greatest Giants player that's ever played'

Stephen Coniglio reflects on the career of fellow inaugural Giant and skipper Toby Greene ahead of his 200th game

www.afl.com.au

Ward is the other option.
He was top 3 in the first 7 or 8 bnfs

 

[MelbourneGWS]

Ward is the other option.
He was top 3 in the first 7 or 8 bnfs

Whilst I believe Toby is our GOAT, Josh Kelly, who has won our best and fairest an equal highest twice and was an All Australian, is also a contender? And Sam Taylor and Tom Green may also challenge Toby’s GOAT status by the time they retire?

 

[MelbourneGWS]

Showing the effects of injuries and suspensions, we have only had 6 players play all 11 games of the 2023 season: Coniglio, Callaghan, Hogan, Ash, Idun, Buckley.

 

[Brave New World]

Keeffe is the best matchup we currently have for Hawkins. Buckley a good matchup for Jez. We need to just have heaps of pressure on the ball and make sure we hit up the short leads when going inside 50… that’s one of the keys to beating Geelong at home.

Giant Pete the Prophet!

 

[Giant Pete]

Giant Pete the Prophet!

I was at the game and the pressure around the ball was fantastic to see. I could name just about every player but want to point out how good Jack Buckley was. Made Jez really earn his possessions and goals.
One piece of play where he neutralised the contest, swooped back onto the ball, hand balled off and received then hit a player on the wing, was gold.
Him and Taylor, with that kind of pressure from the midfield…. Tantalising from a defensive perspective.

 

[MelbourneGWS]

Callan Ward

8

Callan Ward

Age

35

Ht

187cm

Wt

83kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

22.8

5star

K

11.2

4star

HB

11.5

5star

M

3.8

4star

T

4.3

5star

CL

5.4

5star

D

17.8

4star

K

9.0

4star

HB

8.8

4star

M

2.3

2star

T

2.3

3star

CL

3.3

4star

D

10.0

3star

K

4.4

2star

HB

5.6

4star

M

3.0

3star

T

1.8

4star

who at the start of the season was our only 200 game player, may have more company to join him and Toby in this exclusive 200 game club in 2023.

The next Giant (and third ever for our club) to reach the 200 games milestone this season will probably be Whitfield who is currently on 195 games. With all the usual caveats (no injuries, suspensions, being dropped etc), he should reach this milestone during our round 17 against Hawthorn at Giants Stadium.

There are 2 others who also have a chance to get to 200 games in 2023 - Nick Haynes

26

Nick Haynes

Age

33

Ht

192cm

Wt

88kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

16.4

4star

K

11.4

4star

HB

4.9

4star

M

6.2

5star

T

1.6

4star

MG

326.8

4star

D

17.4

4star

K

13.9

5star

HB

3.5

2star

M

8.0

5star

T

1.5

2star

MG

326.8

5star

D

7.8

2star

K

4.4

2star

HB

3.4

3star

M

2.4

3star

T

2.2

4star

(currently on 193 games) and Stephen Coniglio

3

Stephen Coniglio

Age

32

Ht

182cm

Wt

83kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

24.5

5star

K

13.0

5star

HB

11.5

5star

M

3.8

4star

T

4.7

5star

CL

4.7

5star

D

21.3

5star

K

12.5

5star

HB

8.8

4star

M

2.4

3star

T

3.8

4star

CL

5.4

5star

D

19.2

5star

K

8.2

4star

HB

11.0

5star

M

3.6

4star

T

2.2

4star

CL

3.0

5star

(188 games).

 

[GWS Goose]

Showing the effects of injuries and suspensions, we have only had 6 players play all 11 games of the 2023 season: Coniglio, Callaghan, Hogan, Ash, Idun, Buckley.

4 of them are supposed to be injury concerns.

 

[Ichabod Noodle]

but want to point out how good Jack Buckley was. Made Jez really earn his possessions and goals.
One piece of play where he neutralised the contest, swooped back onto the ball, hand balled off and received then hit a player on the wing, was gold.
Him and Taylor, with that kind of pressure from the midfield…. Tantalising from a defensive perspective.

hard to believe but he hasn’t played 30 games yet - you just assume he’s a lot more experienced than that.

just think - Tanner Bruhn has played more games for the Giants than Jack Buckley has.

and that passage you described was the Moment of the Week with Dunstall singing his praises as Toby slotted the goal at the other end.

 

[Giant Strides]

One piece of play where he neutralised the contest, swooped back onto the ball, hand balled off and received then hit a player on the wing, was gold.

This - so good!

 

[MelbourneGWS]

Cadman is in a battle to get one of the 13 Rising Star nominations left for the year. Callaghan has already got a nomination (round 7), but I think the 2023 Rising Star winner is essentially between Ashcroft and Sheezel.

Who's up? The young guns deserving of a Rising Star nom

Sarah Black takes a look at the players who deserve one of the remaining Rising Star nominations this season

www.afl.com.au

 

[Colonial]

Cadman is in a battle to get one of the 13 Rising Star nominations left for the year. Callaghan has already got a nomination (round 7), but I think the 2023 Rising Star winner is essentially between Ashcroft and Sheezel.

Who's up? The young guns deserving of a Rising Star nom

Sarah Black takes a look at the players who deserve one of the remaining Rising Star nominations this season

www.afl.com.au

Needs to start putting them through the big sticks. No doubt it will come.

 

[MelbourneGWS]

Champion Data’s mid season All Australian team has two Giants. This is supposed to be based only on data and our representatives are Toby and Brent Daniels

16

Brent Daniels

Age

26

Ht

172cm

Wt

75kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.9

3star

K

6.4

3star

HB

6.5

4star

M

2.6

3star

T

2.9

4star

G

0.4

3star

D

10.3

3star

K

4.3

2star

HB

6.0

3star

M

1.9

2star

T

1.9

3star

G

0.0

1star

D

9.0

3star

K

3.6

2star

HB

5.4

4star

M

1.6

2star

T

3.0

5star

G

0.8

4star

. Very pleased for the underrated Brent

Dustin Martin is on one half-forward flank and the other was awarded to Jack Macrae, the highest rated mid-forward in the comp under Champion Data’s ratings.

Daniher is flanked by two GWS small forwards, Toby Green and Brent Daniels

16

Brent Daniels

Age

26

Ht

172cm

Wt

75kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.9

3star

K

6.4

3star

HB

6.5

4star

M

2.6

3star

T

2.9

4star

G

0.4

3star

D

10.3

3star

K

4.3

2star

HB

6.0

3star

M

1.9

2star

T

1.9

3star

G

0.0

1star

D

9.0

3star

K

3.6

2star

HB

5.4

4star

M

1.6

2star

T

3.0

5star

G

0.8

4star

, who rates elite for disposals, forward-50 ground balls, score assists and forward-half pressure this season.

https://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/pure-footy-stats-gurus-david-king-and-daniel-hoyne-on-the-big-trends-ahead-of-round-12/news-story/33eaeb19d8355b033c6543966cc78310

 

[MelbourneGWS]

The top 20 standout moments of the AFL season so far from an AFL website - we have 3 of the highlights: Himmelberg’s mark vs Adelaide is number 14; Toby’s winner vs Swans is number 3; and number 2 is Himmelberg’s performance in the last couple of minutes vs Hawthorn.

Top 20 moments of the 2023 AFL season so far (before round 12)

Let's dive into the best goals, marks, plays and performances before the bye rounds in 2023.

www.zerohanger.com

 

[MelbourneGWS]

Nice article on Brent Daniels

16

Brent Daniels

Age

26

Ht

172cm

Wt

75kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.9

3star

K

6.4

3star

HB

6.5

4star

M

2.6

3star

T

2.9

4star

G

0.4

3star

D

10.3

3star

K

4.3

2star

HB

6.0

3star

M

1.9

2star

T

1.9

3star

G

0.0

1star

D

9.0

3star

K

3.6

2star

HB

5.4

4star

M

1.6

2star

T

3.0

5star

G

0.8

4star

in the AFL website. Not many people would have known about Brent at the start of the season, but they are certainly taking notice. And he’s signed with us at least until 2025.

THE ADAM Kingsley

Adam Kingsley

Age

50

Ht

183cm

Wt

83kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

16.9

4star

K

11.5

4star

HB

5.4

4star

M

4.1

4star

T

1.3

3star

No current season stats available

D

16.4

4star

K

10.4

4star

HB

6.0

4star

M

3.0

3star

T

1.0

3star

era may still be in its infancy at GWS but its No.1 player success story to date is the emergence of Brent Daniels

16

Brent Daniels

Age

26

Ht

172cm

Wt

75kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.9

3star

K

6.4

3star

HB

6.5

4star

M

2.6

3star

T

2.9

4star

G

0.4

3star

D

10.3

3star

K

4.3

2star

HB

6.0

3star

M

1.9

2star

T

1.9

3star

G

0.0

1star

D

9.0

3star

K

3.6

2star

HB

5.4

4star

M

1.6

2star

T

3.0

5star

G

0.8

4star

as one of the AFL's premier small forwards.

The pint-sized dynamo may have been a fair way down the list of the Giants' forward threats at the start of the campaign but at the midway point, he has materialised into one of their most menacing.

Simple joy of footy drives comeback Giant's rise to the elite

Brent Daniels spent more than a year on the sidelines, but he's making up for lost time

www.afl.com.au

 

[Giant Strides]

I think most Giants fans understood how good Binga could be if he shook off his injury issues and could get a consistent block of games. So, it's no surprise but immensely satisfying to see how this season has unfolded.

 

[Giant Pete]

I think most Giants fans understood how good Binga could be if he shook off his injury issues and could get a consistent block of games. So, it's no surprise but immensely satisfying to see how this season has unfolded.

A good example also of someone that has struggled to finish off his work at times but appears to have put that behind him.