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All it deserved tbh. Nothing in it really.Weitering only fined, who could possibly have predicted that
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All it deserved tbh. Nothing in it really.Weitering only fined, who could possibly have predicted that
No news that I could find on Sonsie from the VFL tribunal - the hearing was due at 5PM today...
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VFL to appeal Tyler Sonsie tribunal decision
The Victorian Football League today notified the VFL Appeal Board and the Richmond Football Club that it would appeal the three-game suspension imposed on Richmond’s Tyler Sonsie for striking in last weekend’s Round 22 VFL match.www.afl.com.au
It's hard to see how anything but the most serious of deliberate acts can be penalised more harshly than this in future.Alright so deliberately going up to an opponent and punching them in the chin will only be 3 weeks
Good to know
There were four week suspensions for far less than an outright premeditated haymaker to the jaw.This will result in further structural / policy changes from the AFL (and down to the VFL) to the MRP system. This result indicates systemic failure.
Yep, Broad got 4 weeks for a sling tackleThere were four week suspensions for far less than an outright premeditated haymaker to the jaw.
Hey GR have you got a gif of this?Lemons not cited for his high round arm to Taylor who was eventually subbed out. Hmmmm, Christian couldn't be bothered
The structural change might need to be a police charge for assault.This will result in further structural / policy changes from the AFL (and down to the VFL) to the MRP system. This result indicates systemic failure.
He does get aroused when a North player causes injury to an opponent.Lemons not cited for his high round arm to Taylor who was eventually subbed out. Hmmmm, Christian couldn't be bothered
Honestly, it was a non-footy act and it deserves a non-footy investigation which may lead to criminal charges in addition to an appropriate football penalty due to the incident taking place within a league sanctioned match.The structural change might need to be a police charge for assault.
Interested in what others think of the Maynard report. I'm a real fence sitter here. Can see why some are calling for at least 3 weeks whilst others see no case to answer. I suppose even if it is an accident if you place yourself in a position where there is a risk then you have to accept responsibility for the outcome. Then again, he just went to spoil. Hmmmmmm.
I posted in another thread I think it is somewhere between this:
and this:
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Hall knocked out after Duncan's smother attempt
Geelong's Mitch Duncan collects Aaron Hall, who subsequently gets ruled out of the gamewww.afl.com.au
Jack doesn't knock Lyons out. It was graded as reckless, low impact, high contact. He copped 2 weeks, under the current system that would have been a fine.
I am not sure if Duncan was even cited.
the difference as I see it is the bracing for contact.
Where Duncan over rotated basically taking Hall out with his back, Maynard braces for contact and hits Brayshaw.
If you take what Jack's was graded and put it in the new system and adjust for impact, careless, high, high he's looking at a couple of weeks. If you up the impact to Severe, he's looking at 3.
If they grade it as an accident then he gets off. the sticking point will be the shoulder brace.
Also on the point about it being a smother. My son raised an interesting point on this, was he actually trying to get to the ball or was he jumping to make sure Brayshaw kicked the ball high making it easier to defend. His in tent has no bearing on the actions but it is an interesting tactical development if defenders are now jumping to force the ball high to make it easier for other defenders. Not something I had considered before.
I posted in another thread I think it is somewhere between this:
and this:
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Hall knocked out after Duncan's smother attempt
Geelong's Mitch Duncan collects Aaron Hall, who subsequently gets ruled out of the gamewww.afl.com.au
Jack doesn't knock Lyons out. It was graded as reckless, low impact, high contact. He copped 2 weeks, under the current system that would have been a fine.
I am not sure if Duncan was even cited.
the difference as I see it is the bracing for contact.
Where Duncan over rotated basically taking Hall out with his back, Maynard braces for contact and hits Brayshaw.
If you take what Jack's was graded and put it in the new system and adjust for impact, careless, high, high he's looking at a couple of weeks. If you up the impact to Severe, he's looking at 3.
If they grade it as an accident then he gets off. the sticking point will be the shoulder brace.
Also on the point about it being a smother. My son raised an interesting point on this, was he actually trying to get to the ball or was he jumping to make sure Brayshaw kicked the ball high making it easier to defend. His in tent has no bearing on the actions but it is an interesting tactical development if defenders are now jumping to force the ball high to make it easier for other defenders. Not something I had considered before.
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Really good post.This is a difficult case that the game has to give some pretty serious thought to. I agree that Maynard attempted a 'footy act' without malice - the problem is that footy acts of that kind are going to end in the game being litigated out of existence. 'Footy acts' of this kind are killing people, not (yet) on the field, but in the long term - the coroner found Danny Frawley took his own life, and the post mortem confirmed his CTS diagnosis, so it's not hard to join the dots. (You might add Shane Tuck to the casualty list, although his case his clouded by his post-footy boxing career, which didn't end well).
I don't have the answer, but some how the 'footy act' that sees a player leave the ground in that manner needs to end, and I think it can be done - players have been able to change tackling techniques to avoid head injury, and we have to find a similar way through this.
I don't quite know how to say this without people coming at me (I understand CTE and needing to protect the head) but I just wonder if it wasn't a player with Bradshaw's history, would people be looking at this slightly differently?This is a difficult case that the game has to give some pretty serious thought to. I agree that Maynard attempted a 'footy act' without malice - the problem is that footy acts of that kind are going to end in the game being litigated out of existence. 'Footy acts' of this kind are killing people, not (yet) on the field, but in the long term - the coroner found Danny Frawley took his own life, and the post mortem confirmed his CTS diagnosis, so it's not hard to join the dots. (You might add Shane Tuck to the casualty list, although his case his clouded by his post-footy boxing career, which didn't end well).
I don't have the answer, but some how the 'footy act' that sees a player leave the ground in that manner needs to end, and I think it can be done - players have been able to change tackling techniques to avoid head injury, and we have to find a similar way through this.
There's a reasonable argument to be had that a mark requires leaving the ground, as does a ruck contest but maybe, just maybe launching yourself towards a player for a marginal chance of a smother that leaves you unable to avoid serious contact isn't an act that needs to remain protected for the benefit of the game long term.This is a difficult case that the game has to give some pretty serious thought to. I agree that Maynard attempted a 'footy act' without malice - the problem is that footy acts of that kind are going to end in the game being litigated out of existence. 'Footy acts' of this kind are killing people, not (yet) on the field, but in the long term - the coroner found Danny Frawley took his own life, and the post mortem confirmed his CTS diagnosis, so it's not hard to join the dots. (You might add Shane Tuck to the casualty list, although his case his clouded by his post-footy boxing career, which didn't end well).
I don't have the answer, but some how the 'footy act' that sees a player leave the ground in that manner needs to end, and I think it can be done - players have been able to change tackling techniques to avoid head injury, and we have to find a similar way through this.