List Mgmt. 2023 Trade & List Management Thread II - Goldy&Bucket➡️✅/'24 EoFR & #44➡️Stephens&#25✅/#21&#25➡️Fisher&#17✅/'24 EoFR➡️#18✅

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Spoiler: Blue Tick Rumours

 

[tazaa]

Not keen on Chol at all. Lazy and will just be like CCJ.

The man kicked 44 goals last year.
If CCJ did that we’d call him the next prime McKernan

 

[Psicosis]

Doesn’t hurt to ask the question - I’d do port pick in a heartbeat

There’s just no way they accept that, they’ll get more next year via band 1 compo

 

[JGreezy]

I will be very very surprised if Darcy ends up a North player without us trading 2 or 3. Pleasantly surprised ofcourse.

If he wasn't a free agent next season then pick 3 for Darcy isn't too bad. He has AA potential next season and is only 25.

However, given that we could get him with no cost in draft capital in 12 months it is a bit too much.

Freo were 2 wins off being 10th and were a finals side in 2022. I think that pick 10 is a fair offer. It is locking in certainty in value for them.

Darcy could get injured or have a down year and not get band 1, or they could finish 5th again and Darcy compo gives them pick 15.

So we can offer them 14 and a PP F1. Or, we can trade for pick 10 and offer them that.

 

[pupstar]

I will be very very surprised if Darcy ends up a North player without us trading 2 or 3. Pleasantly surprised ofcourse.

Yeah well i suppose if it is pick 2 or 3 he will not be a North player that's for sure.

 

[cachepotpro]

Is there any chance we look at Josh Treacy as well or nah

 

[Sheezel2Wardlaw]

Is there any chance we look at Josh Treacy as well or nah

Josh Treacy = The Richard

 

[Daniltchenko You Beauty]

This was nearly a month ago. Very strange.

 

[krakouers]

This was nearly a month ago. Very strange.

Yeah weirdly nothing came of it

 

[Woolly Mammoth]

Is there any chance we look at Josh Treacy as well or nah

Logue, Tucker, Henry, Darcy, Treacy- what are we Northmantle?

 

[Woolly Mammoth]

Don't know what happened to him this year, and for sure that would be a concern, but this was Chol last year- nothing to sneeze at
in 2022 he kicked 3 goals against three of this years prelim finalists, and 2.1 and 7 marks against the fourth

 

[the big lebowski]

Whilst I understand sometimes you need to strike while the irons hot, when there’s as much down side as upside, or even more downside maybe it’s best to wait.

Darcy would require a fair amount of draft capital to get him out of his contract 1 year early.

He’s also just had major surgery on his ankle.

It would be much more prudent to wait until next year, assessing how he’s recovered and getting him for free rather than spending up big this year.

Unless it’s Darcy for our 2 future end of first rounders I’d say wait and try next year.

 

[tiltraise]

Ok whos pumped for trade radio?

 

[FootySmartSimpson]

Chol would be a nice addition because he would be potential depth at KPF, KPD and ruck.

I don't know if I'd want him in our healthy best 22 when we are back in finals but he's pretty good as depth.

We are 3-4 years away from thinking about finals.

Chol is 26 turning 27. Apart from Larkey, we have almost no one over 190cm that has kicked over 40 goals in the last 3 years.

By the time he is finishing up his career in his early 30s, we should have found some younger KP talent.

 

[FootySmartSimpson]

Doesn’t hurt to ask the question - I’d do port pick in a heartbeat

14+19 would be fair.

 

[giantroo]

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/afl-2023-likely-ins-and-outs-at-every-club-this-trade-period/news-story/dac6b1dd574654af27ca50e548dce2bc

NORTH MELBOURNE​

The Kangaroos are going to look even thinner in the backline next year, with key defender Ben McKay

32

Ben Mckay

Age

28

Ht

202cm

Wt

104kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

7.5

2star

K

3.7

1star

HB

3.8

3star

M

2.7

3star

T

1.7

4star

MG

77.2

1star

D

7.5

2star

K

4.5

2star

HB

3.0

2star

M

2.5

3star

T

1.5

2star

MG

88.5

2star

D

7.0

2star

K

3.4

2star

HB

3.6

3star

M

2.4

3star

T

2.0

4star

MG

67.8

1star

poised to depart for Essendon through free agency. Veteran ruckman Todd Goldstein

17

Todd Goldstein

Age

37

Ht

201cm

Wt

101kg

Pos.

Ruck

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.2

3star

K

5.7

2star

HB

7.5

5star

CL

3.1

5star

HO

32.5

5star

D

16.7

4star

K

9.3

4star

HB

7.4

4star

CL

7.0

5star

HO

32.9

5star

D

5.2

2star

K

2.6

1star

HB

2.6

3star

HO

10.0

5star

is also out the door, with Collingwood, Essendon and St Kilda all potential suitors. North Melbourne is firmly in the market for a few experienced players, though, including Sydney’s Dylan Stephens

15

Dylan Stephens

Age

24

Ht

184cm

Wt

80kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

10.3

3star

K

7.0

3star

HB

3.3

3star

M

3.0

3star

T

1.7

4star

CL

0.0

1star

D

10.3

3star

K

7.0

3star

HB

3.3

2star

M

3.0

3star

T

1.7

3star

CL

0.0

1star

D

10.3

3star

K

7.0

3star

HB

3.3

3star

M

3.0

3star

T

1.7

4star

CL

0.0

1star

and Carlton’s Zac Fisher

16

Zac Fisher

Age

27

Ht

175cm

Wt

76kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

16.2

4star

K

8.3

3star

HB

7.9

5star

M

1.8

2star

T

3.0

5star

MG

384.0

5star

D

17.0

4star

K

10.0

4star

HB

7.0

4star

M

3.0

3star

T

0.0

1star

MG

384.0

5star

D

12.2

3star

K

6.8

3star

HB

5.4

4star

M

1.2

2star

T

3.0

5star

. The club has also been linked to Gold Coast forward Mabior Chol

18

Mabior Chol

Age

28

Ht

200cm

Wt

98kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

7.5

2star

K

5.3

2star

HB

2.2

2star

M

2.3

2star

T

2.7

4star

G

0.8

4star

D

8.0

2star

K

6.0

2star

HB

2.0

1star

M

2.3

2star

T

2.3

3star

G

0.7

4star

D

9.2

3star

K

6.8

3star

HB

2.4

3star

M

3.2

4star

T

1.8

4star

G

1.2

4star

. A big national draft also awaits, with the Kangaroos already holding pick two and likely to receive pick 3 as free agency compensation for McKay.

LIKELY INS: Dylan Stephens, Zac Fisher

16

Zac Fisher

Age

27

Ht

175cm

Wt

76kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

16.2

4star

K

8.3

3star

HB

7.9

5star

M

1.8

2star

T

3.0

5star

MG

384.0

5star

D

17.0

4star

K

10.0

4star

HB

7.0

4star

M

3.0

3star

T

0.0

1star

MG

384.0

5star

D

12.2

3star

K

6.8

3star

HB

5.4

4star

M

1.2

2star

T

3.0

5star

LIKELY OUTS: Ben McKay

32

Ben Mckay

Age

28

Ht

202cm

Wt

104kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

7.5

2star

K

3.7

1star

HB

3.8

3star

M

2.7

3star

T

1.7

4star

MG

77.2

1star

D

7.5

2star

K

4.5

2star

HB

3.0

2star

M

2.5

3star

T

1.5

2star

MG

88.5

2star

D

7.0

2star

K

3.4

2star

HB

3.6

3star

M

2.4

3star

T

2.0

4star

MG

67.8

1star

, Todd Goldstein

17

Todd Goldstein

Age

37

Ht

201cm

Wt

101kg

Pos.

Ruck

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.2

3star

K

5.7

2star

HB

7.5

5star

CL

3.1

5star

HO

32.5

5star

D

16.7

4star

K

9.3

4star

HB

7.4

4star

CL

7.0

5star

HO

32.9

5star

D

5.2

2star

K

2.6

1star

HB

2.6

3star

HO

10.0

5star

 

[Sphynx]

Trading a heap of draft capital for Darcy would be so stupid.

 

[DocSholl]

14+19 would be fair.

Agree but makes little sense for Freo unless they can do something else with those picks.

 

[Disco Dew]

Trading a heap of draft capital for Darcy would be so stupid.

Agreed. Although I’m not against throwing up pick 14 and a future pp 1st as has been suggested in here.
Our ruck options with goldy gone are x and CCJ and that’s just ****ed. Maybe X can take the next step as the main man next year but up to this point he’s been mostly shit.

 

[Merlin007]

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/subscribe/news/1/?sourceCode=HSWEB_WRE170_a_TWT&dest=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.heraldsun.com.au%2Fsport%2Fafl%2Fnews%2Fafl-trade-news-2023-all-the-latest-ahead-of-the-exchange-period%2Fnews-story%2Fcc5f37de5843a737c2a6b0c77050eee8&memtype=anonymous&mode=premium&v21=HIGH-Segment-2-SCORE

Carlton expects utility Zac Fisher to ask for a trade to North Melbourne this week, despite no formal request at last week’s exit interview.
Fisher had been keen to stay but has been made aware his chances will be limited at the Blues, so the 25-year-old is getting his head around a move to Arden Street.
Dylan Stephens is also expected to find his way to the Roos, who have been handed three extra end-of-first-round picks over the 2023 and 2024 national drafts.
A deal of four years, with a fifth-year trigger, would give Fisher financial security after being dropped multiple times by the Blues this season.
Carlton’s list spot crunch was shown last week when Lochie O’Brien was delisted, despite having a contract for 2024, which meant he was paid out by the Blues.

Fisher is a Carlton salary dump - no draft pick that doesn't start with a 5 (and has two digits)

 

[Harvey Manfrenjensenden]

All likely that Fremantle think they're a top 4 to 6 side next year and they think pick 14 with an extra year of development is about right

 

[krakouers]

Ok whos pumped for trade radio?

installed a rheem?

 

[Roos1991]

Agree but makes little sense for Freo unless they can do something else with those picks.

Not if he's injured and his body won't stand up to consistent AFL footy.

 

[krakouers]

Not if he's injured and his body won't stand up to consistent AFL footy.

Only missed a couple of games last year and the year before

 

[giantroo]

'Met with North last week, may have a 4 year deal for him' - Morris on Chol

3min in

 

[New_Roo]

I will be very very surprised if Darcy ends up a North player without us trading 2 or 3. Pleasantly surprised ofcourse.

I'm assuming they are less reluctant now to offload him given that ljack came into his own when Darcy got injured maybe a similar situation to dees.

They also are trying to lure lmac mk2 back too and feel they need to first rders for him which in itself is abit of a joke


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