Preview 2024 AFL Draft General Discussion

[Mutineer]

RMC's scouting notes from the weekend's SA vs NSW Academies trial game:

Scouting Notes: South Australia vs. Giants/Swans Academies

South Australia overcame a combined Giants and Swans Academy side in the first of its two Under 18 trials. We took note of the top prospects.

central.rookieme.com

Pretty much in line with my thoughts re better players...

 

[navybluesince75]

Does anybody know if the national champs games will be available on Kayo please ?

 

[Mutineer]

Does anybody know if the national champs games will be available on Kayo please ?

Looking at the Foxtel program guide for the 26th May no mention on there at the 10.05AM ACST Thebarton Oval fixture SA vs Allies game so likely not.

Streamed on the AFL app and website would look the most likely going on that.

 

[Adnico26Parker]

Allies squad

#	NAME	SURNAME	HT	STATE	STATE LEAGUE CLUB	COMMUNITY CLUB
1	Nicholas	Andreacchio	178	NSW/ACT	Sydney Swans Academy	Sydney University
2	Zeke	Uwland	178	QLD	GC Suns Academy	Burleigh
4	Ricky	Mentha	178	NT	NT Academy Gippsland Power	Morwell
8	Leo	Lombard	178	QLD	GC Suns Academy	Broadbeach
9	Joe	Harrison	182	NSW/ACT	Sydney Swans Academy	Warners Bay
10	Lachlan	Carmichael	183	NSW/ACT	Sydney Swans Academy	Mosman
11	Josaia	Delana	176	NSW/ACT	GWS Giants Academy	Willoughby
12	Taj	Stanley	177	NT	NT Academy Perth	Southern Districts
13	Oliver	Depaoli-Kubank	178	TAS	Tasmania Devils	North Launceston
14	Geordie	Payne	184	TAS	Tasmania Devils	North Launceston
16	Sam	Marshall	185	QLD	Brisbane Lions Academy Sandringham Dragons	Old Melburnians
20	Daniel	Annable	183	QLD	Brisbane Lions Academy	Redland-Victoria Point
21	Lenny	Douglas	179	TAS	Tasmania Devils	North Launceston
24	Taj	Murray	199	NT	NT Academy North Adelaide	Nightcliff
25	Fergus	McFadyen	189	QLD	Brisbane Lions Academy	Wilston Grange
26	Zai	Millane	188	QLD	GC Suns Academy	Surfers Paradise
27	Waylon	Davey-Motlop	171	NT	NT Academy Oakleigh Chargers	Palmerston
28	Joel	Cochran	195	NSW/ACT	Sydney Swans Academy	UNSW Eastern Suburbs
29	Caleb	Nancarrow	190	QLD	GC Suns Academy	Cairns City
30	Noah	Chamberlain	192	NSW/ACT	Sydney Swans Academy	East Sydney
31	Ryan	Gilder	191	QLD	Brisbane Lions Academy	Sherwood Districts
32	Jobe	Shanahan	194	NSW/ACT	Bendigo Pioneers	Moama
33	Ty	Gallop	194	QLD	Brisbane Lions Academy	Maroochydore
34	Nathaniel	Sulzberger	187	TAS	Tasmania Devils Sandringham Dragons	North Hobart
36	Ben	Kennedy	186	NSW/ACT	Murray Bushrangers	Yarrawonga
37	Josh	Murphy	190	NSW/ACT	Murray Bushrangers	North Albury
38	Oliver	Dean	201	TAS	Tasmania Devils	North Launceston
39	Billy	Richardson	195	QLD	Brisbane Lions Academy	Wilston Grange
40	Logan	Smith	204	NSW/ACT	GWS Giants Academy	Queanbeyan
41	Cooper	Bell	198	NSW/ACT	GWS Giants Academy	Belconnen
42	Kalani	White	198	QLD	GC Suns Academy	Broadbeach

 

[Titch3Votes0MooreAA]

I watched the second half of the Bendigo Pioneers vs Northern Knights on Sunday. It was the first time I've been able to watch a Coates Talent League game this season. The Pioneers well and truly got run over in a game that could have gone either way halfway through.

Tobie Travaglia. He stood out when I watched Bendigo play last season. But the way he played on the weekend has proven to me that he is one of the best in the class. Travaglia had as good a game as a halfback could on the weekend. He kicked 2 goals, and he racked up a ton of the ball (31 disposals). His run and carry from halfback are as good as I have seen. He tried his best where others faltered (namely, Archer-Day Wicks). He didn't necessarily show it on the weekend, but his defensive abilities might be just as good. He can certainly lockdown an opponent. If he plays like he did on the weekend at the National Championships, I don't think it would be a stretch for a team in the top 10 to pick him. He should become a very important player in the AFL, wherever he goes.

Archer-Day Wicks was a non-factor on Sunday. Really disappointing compared to the player I saw last season. I was hoping to see Jobe Shahanan dominate, considering how much his name has been mentioned recently, but I hardly saw him. It seems he faded out big time from the first half, where he kicked 3 goals. He clearly has the traits of a top talent based on what he has exemplified thus far, but he needs a lot more compelling, consistent performances like the round prior for me to consider him among the best.

 

[memoryofmchale]

Allies squad

#	NAME	SURNAME	HT	STATE	STATE LEAGUE CLUB	COMMUNITY CLUB
1	Nicholas	Andreacchio	178	NSW/ACT	Sydney Swans Academy	Sydney University
2	Zeke	Uwland	178	QLD	GC Suns Academy	Burleigh
4	Ricky	Mentha	178	NT	NT Academy Gippsland Power	Morwell
8	Leo	Lombard	178	QLD	GC Suns Academy	Broadbeach
9	Joe	Harrison	182	NSW/ACT	Sydney Swans Academy	Warners Bay
10	Lachlan	Carmichael	183	NSW/ACT	Sydney Swans Academy	Mosman
11	Josaia	Delana	176	NSW/ACT	GWS Giants Academy	Willoughby
12	Taj	Stanley	177	NT	NT Academy Perth	Southern Districts
13	Oliver	Depaoli-Kubank	178	TAS	Tasmania Devils	North Launceston
14	Geordie	Payne	184	TAS	Tasmania Devils	North Launceston
16	Sam	Marshall	185	QLD	Brisbane Lions Academy Sandringham Dragons	Old Melburnians
20	Daniel	Annable	183	QLD	Brisbane Lions Academy	Redland-Victoria Point
21	Lenny	Douglas	179	TAS	Tasmania Devils	North Launceston
24	Taj	Murray	199	NT	NT Academy North Adelaide	Nightcliff
25	Fergus	McFadyen	189	QLD	Brisbane Lions Academy	Wilston Grange
26	Zai	Millane	188	QLD	GC Suns Academy	Surfers Paradise
27	Waylon	Davey-Motlop	171	NT	NT Academy Oakleigh Chargers	Palmerston
28	Joel	Cochran	195	NSW/ACT	Sydney Swans Academy	UNSW Eastern Suburbs
29	Caleb	Nancarrow	190	QLD	GC Suns Academy	Cairns City
30	Noah	Chamberlain	192	NSW/ACT	Sydney Swans Academy	East Sydney
31	Ryan	Gilder	191	QLD	Brisbane Lions Academy	Sherwood Districts
32	Jobe	Shanahan	194	NSW/ACT	Bendigo Pioneers	Moama
33	Ty	Gallop	194	QLD	Brisbane Lions Academy	Maroochydore
34	Nathaniel	Sulzberger	187	TAS	Tasmania Devils Sandringham Dragons	North Hobart
36	Ben	Kennedy	186	NSW/ACT	Murray Bushrangers	Yarrawonga
37	Josh	Murphy	190	NSW/ACT	Murray Bushrangers	North Albury
38	Oliver	Dean	201	TAS	Tasmania Devils	North Launceston
39	Billy	Richardson	195	QLD	Brisbane Lions Academy	Wilston Grange
40	Logan	Smith	204	NSW/ACT	GWS Giants Academy	Queanbeyan
41	Cooper	Bell	198	NSW/ACT	GWS Giants Academy	Belconnen
42	Kalani	White	198	QLD	GC Suns Academy	Broadbeach

North Launceston has done very well with four players represented.

I don't think we'll see a full campaign from Geordie Payne. He'll be an AFL play by May 30 provided no scandal emerges and his body remains healthy.

 

[Dewyyyyy]

North Launceston has done very well with four players represented.

I don't think we'll see a full campaign from Geordie Payne. He'll be an AFL play by May 30 provided no scandal emerges and his body remains healthy.

Whats the notes on him from others? I have my own opinions but I also played a lot of sport with him so unsure.

 

[Dewyyyyy]

I will also add that Lenny Douglas (another I played against) will likely be an option. Playing as a fwd who can push up the ground with footy iq, skill and pace.

 

[memoryofmchale]

Whats the notes on him from others? I have my own opinions but I also played a lot of sport with him so unsure.

He’s a talented player to a degree. He suits the Devils’ focus on pressure. In early games, he was the one standing up when others weren’t. He was unlucky not to be drafted last year.

But he needs to work on accuracy and efficiency because it’s holding him back. Not much point having 30 touches if you’re also giving it to the opposition 40% of the time.

I’d almost say he’s a certainty to be picked up now.

 

[memoryofmchale]

I will also add that Lenny Douglas (another I played against) will likely be an option. Playing as a fwd who can push up the ground with footy iq, skill and pace.

His development has come on really well and he’s had some big games. Efficiency still lower but it seems to be a Tasmania-wide issue. Most of their top prospects aren’t great kicks this year. It happens. He’ll gain interest for sure.

Depaoli-Kubank an option, Ollie Dean, not so much.

Max Roney might be a rookie but not playing Allies hurts his chances given almost all Tasmanian draft prospects have played Allies in recent years.

 

[Dewyyyyy]

He’s a talented player to a degree. He suits the Devils’ focus on pressure. In early games, he was the one standing up when others weren’t. He was unlucky not to be drafted last year.

But he needs to work on accuracy and efficiency because it’s holding him back. Not much point having 30 touches if you’re also giving it to the opposition 40% of the time.

I’d almost say he’s a certainty to be picked up now.

Yep, when I played with him he was always willing to take it on but his ineffectiveness did shine through, albeit he would win a lot of the ball and kicks goals so it wasn’t as noticeable. Footy iq is good, and inside game is good, athletically aswell.

He use to always try play like Fyfe which is probably the best comparison with his inefficient disposal and accuracy but his dominance and ability on the inside. Loves to fly around the ground for marks.

Good to get another opinion. Will be good to see how he develops.

 

[Dewyyyyy]

His development has come on really well and he’s had some big games. Efficiency still lower but it seems to be a Tasmania-wide issue. Most of their top prospects aren’t great kicks this year. It happens. He’ll gain interest for sure.

Depaoli-Kubank an option, Ollie Dean, not so much.

Max Roney might be a rookie but not playing Allies hurts his chances given almost all Tasmanian draft prospects have played Allies in recent years.

He use to always dominate when I played before I moved, was always just super mercurial. Better around goals as it’s a “bread and butter” type. His foot skills in play are fine it’s just he always takes the hardest options even if it isn’t the best.

But Depaoli was always pretty good and the rest I’ve heard about.

 

[Jen2310]

Unsure why but Oliver Warburton trained with the pies VFL wed night

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[GoTigers2015]

Shifter's top 75 players

Alex Dodson
Archer Day-Wicks
Bailey McKenzie
Ben Camporeale
Ben Kennedy

Ben Kennedy

Age

31

Ht

175cm

Wt

78kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.8

4star

K

7.0

3star

HB

6.8

4star

M

2.2

2star

T

2.1

4star

G

0.7

4star

No current season stats available

D

10.8

3star

K

5.2

2star

HB

5.6

4star

M

1.6

2star

T

2.0

4star

G

0.6

3star

Bo Allan
Charlie Nicholls
Charlie Richardson
Christian Moraes
Cody Angove
Cooper Bell
Cooper Hynes
Deian Roberts
Finn O'Sullivan
Flynn Penry
Hamish Davis
Harrison Oliver
Harry Armstrong
Harry O'Farrell
Harvey Langford
Isaac Kako
Jack Whitlock
Jagga Smith
Jayden Nguyen
Jesse Dattoli
Jobe Shanahan
Joe Berry
Joe Harrison
Joel Cochran
Jonty Faull
Josaia Delana
Josh Murphy
Josh Smillie
Kade Herbert
Kayle Gerreyn
Lachie Jaques
Lachlan Gulbin
Lenny Douglas
Leonardo Lombard
Levi Ashcroft
Logan Smith
Louie Montgomery
Luca Grego
Lucas Camporeale
Luke Trainor
Luke Urquhart
Malakai Champion
Matt Whitlock
Murphy Reid
Nash King
Nathaniel Sulzberger
Ned Bowman
Nicholas Andreacchio
Noah Mraz
Oliver Dean
Oliver Depaoli-Kubank
Oliver Warburton
Phoenix Hargrave
Ricky Mentha
Rome Burgoyne
Ryan Gilder
Sam Lalor
Sam Marshall
Sid Draper
Taj Hotton
Tate Delmenico
Thomas Sims
Tobie Travaglia
Tom Gross
Ty Gallop
Tyler Welsh
William Hayes
Xavier Ivisic
Xavier Lindsay
Zak Johnson

 

[roos_fanatic08]

Shifter's top 75 players

Alex Dodson
Archer Day-Wicks
Bailey McKenzie
Ben Camporeale
Ben Kennedy
Bo Allan
Charlie Nicholls
Charlie Richardson
Christian Moraes
Cody Angove
Cooper Bell
Cooper Hynes
Deian Roberts
Finn O'Sullivan
Flynn Penry
Hamish Davis
Harrison Oliver
Harry Armstrong
Harry O'Farrell
Harvey Langford
Isaac Kako
Jack Whitlock
Jagga Smith
Jayden Nguyen
Jesse Dattoli
Jobe Shanahan
Joe Berry
Joe Harrison
Joel Cochran
Jonty Faull
Josaia Delana
Josh Murphy
Josh Smillie
Kade Herbert
Kayle Gerreyn
Lachie Jaques
Lachlan Gulbin
Lenny Douglas
Leonardo Lombard
Levi Ashcroft
Logan Smith
Louie Montgomery
Luca Grego
Lucas Camporeale
Luke Trainor
Luke Urquhart
Malakai Champion
Matt Whitlock
Murphy Reid
Nash King
Nathaniel Sulzberger
Ned Bowman
Nicholas Andreacchio
Noah Mraz
Oliver Dean
Oliver Depaoli-Kubank
Oliver Warburton
Phoenix Hargrave
Ricky Mentha
Rome Burgoyne
Ryan Gilder
Sam Lalor
Sam Marshall
Sid Draper
Taj Hotton
Tate Delmenico
Thomas Sims
Tobie Travaglia
Tom Gross
Ty Gallop
Tyler Welsh
William Hayes
Xavier Ivisic
Xavier Lindsay
Zak Johnson

Luke McInerney, Cody Anderson, River Stevens, Gabriel Stumpf, Luke Tovey, Jayden Nguyen, Zak McInnes, Keighton Matofai-Forbes, Zaydyn Lockwood and James Barrat amongst others are all very very stiff not to mentioned on that list.

 

[Mutineer]

Luke McInerney, Cody Anderson, River Stevens, Gabriel Stumpf, Luke Tovey, Jayden Nguyen, Zak McInnes, Keighton Matofai-Forbes, Zaydyn Lockwood and James Barrat amongst others are all very very stiff not to mentioned on that list.

As is small forward/midfielder Rhys Unwin despite his ankle injury, defender/midfielder Jack Ough and small defender/mid Ollie Hannaford, seems Shifter doesn't watch too many GWV Rebels games especially to miss Rhys Unwin.

 

[memoryofmchale]

Unsure why but Oliver Warburton trained with the pies VFL wed night

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Could he feature for the Pies this year?

Or is it due to Oakleigh connection and he’s tagging along given the Chargers have the week off?

 

[Jen2310]

Could he feature for the Pies this year?

Or is it due to Oakleigh connection and he’s tagging along given the Chargers have the week off?

Yeah, not sure really. generally we have NGA aligned kids train with us. Unless its preseason and we have a couple afl academy kids.
This one seemed out of the blue. Not sure the reasoning for it.

Plays for Murray bushrangers not oakleigh , but they have the week off. So prob has a connection that he asked to train.

 

[Jen2310]

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[Tivva29]

Dougie Kerr also badly injured last weekend.

 

[Jen2310]

Dougie Kerr also badly injured last weekend.

Thanks. I’ll enquire what happened there. I know him a little bit.


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[briztoon]

Luke McInerney, Cody Anderson, River Stevens, Gabriel Stumpf, Luke Tovey, Jayden Nguyen, Zak McInnes, Keighton Matofai-Forbes, Zaydyn Lockwood and James Barrat amongst others are all very very stiff not to mentioned on that list.

Jayden Nguyen is on the list.

 

[memoryofmchale]

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He looked a top ten pick. Perhaps not but still should get the chance. Hopefully, he's back at it soon.

 

[Jen2310]

Dougie Kerr also badly injured last weekend.

Just got an update.
Same thing as Hotton.

He confirmed that he did his ACL Poor kid. Was never gonna be a top prospect so he was fighting to get drafted, and so its not ideal for him.
But he seems optimistic, will rehab it and come back better next year.

 

[Tivva29]

Just got an update.
Same thing as Hotton.

He confirmed that he did his ACL Poor kid. Was never gonna be a top prospect so he was fighting to get drafted, and so its not ideal for him.
But he seems optimistic, will rehab it and come back better next year.

If he could clean up his disposal he would be a genuine draft prospect. Hopefully he can get back next year but heard he made a mess of his knee.