Racing 2024 G1 Melbourne Cup Day (3200m)no after timing posts.

[Areyoufireal]

Race order fore those on the same race multi places..

Winner: Knight's Choice
2: Warp Speed
3: Okita Soushi
4: Zardozi
5: Absurde
6: Circle of Fire
7: Fancy Man
8: Land Legend
9: Buckaroo
10: Kovalica
11: Vauban
12: Onesmoothoperator
13: Valiant King
14: Sea King
15: Interpretation
16: Sharp 'N' Smart
17: Trust In You
18: Mostly Cloudy
19: Manzoice
20: Positivity
21: The Map
22: Saint George
23: Just Fine

 

[Jugada]

Berkshire Breeze into the same price as Middle Earth after winning the spud stayers final…

 

[TBellicious]

Berkshire Breeze into the same price as Middle Earth after winning the spud stayers final…

Looks the standard winter form that we know is not good enough. Happens every year.

Have we definitely ruled out Isle of Jura coming? Is there any mention of it in the news? Owner said he was keen pre-Hardwicke but has drifted sharply on Betfair. Full brother to mighty Cascadian!

edit: ah yes can see now it has been shelved.

 

[TBellicious]

Looking fairly thin at the top of markets (as it usually does this time of year) but even more so with all of the "locals" below prominent and who are not good enough.

Berkshire Breeze
The Map
Warmonger
Bear On The Loose
Mark Twain

 

[Lunchtime]

Aidan O’Brien suggests Tower Of London and Grosvenor Square could both be Melbourne Cup-bound.

The Curragh Cup was won by Vintage Crop (1993), Rekindling (2017) and Twilight Payment (2020) the same year as their Melbourne Cup victories. Vintage Crop (1995) and Red Cadeaux (2011) won and then placed down under.

 

[Jugada]

Tower of London all going to come down to the weight he gets and at a guess it will be a bit much

 

[Jugada]

Update

SEVENNA'S KNIGHT pretty much confirmed not coming after being lapped last start.

Ozzie Kheir supposedly circling BIRDMAN as a potential purchase to bring out for the Cup. NH 3yo on the rise a proven type out here and he looked reasonable closing for 3rd in the Queens Vase behind Illinois who will be one of the favourites heading to the Leger.

Would be leaving VAUBAN at home if he was mine after he was shown up in the Curragh Cup. Legit 50s on the day type.

MIDDLE EARTH runs in the King George this weekend against the likes of Auguste Rodin and Rebels Romance. Wont be winning but if he was strong through the line in 4th or 5th you would be happy.

 

[TBellicious]

Update

SEVENNA'S KNIGHT pretty much confirmed not coming after being lapped last start.

Ozzie Kheir supposedly circling BIRDMAN as a potential purchase to bring out for the Cup. NH 3yo on the rise a proven type out here and he looked reasonable closing for 3rd in the Queens Vase behind Illinois who will be one of the favourites heading to the Leger.

Would be leaving VAUBAN at home if he was mine after he was shown up in the Curragh Cup. Legit 50s on the day type.

MIDDLE EARTH runs in the King George this weekend against the likes of Auguste Rodin and Rebels Romance. Wont be winning but if he was strong through the line in 4th or 5th you would be happy.

Birdman interests me a bit as still a reasonable price on Betfair.

Birdman set for Leopardstown assignment > Australia and International Horse Racing news updated daily

Australia and International Horse Racing news updated daily, www.thoroughbrednews.com.au

www.thoroughbrednews.com.au

This article mentions Leopardstown on the way to the Irish Leger.

This profile WAS good, it's getting punished by the handicapper more recently though.

 

[FFB1]

Ozzie Kheir supposedly circling BIRDMAN as a potential purchase to bring out for the Cup.

Correct.

Still a bit of $80 fair, was $120 yesterday.

 

[Jugada]

Birdman interests me a bit as still a reasonable price on Betfair.

Birdman set for Leopardstown assignment > Australia and International Horse Racing news updated daily

Australia and International Horse Racing news updated daily, www.thoroughbrednews.com.au

www.thoroughbrednews.com.au

This article mentions Leopardstown on the way to the Irish Leger.

This profile WAS good, it's getting punished by the handicapper more recently though.

It was in the bin a few years ago but normalised now. Desert Hero was given 51.5 last year and Tower of London 50.5 both much better rated than Birdman currently

 

[Jugada]

Middle Earth about to go around for anyone interested

 

[Jugada]

Middle Earth has to be in the bin after that. Nudged along from a long way out, dropped out gone on the corner, basically pulled up

 

[Jugada]

Bit of salt into the wound for them with the horse he finished alongside last start bolting up

 

[FFB1]

Middle Earth has to be in the bin after that. Nudged along from a long way out, dropped out gone on the corner, basically pulled up

Couple of months ago Cam Luke declared it at least the Caulfield Cup winner.

 

[Jugada]

Couple of months ago Cam Luke declared it at least the Caulfield Cup winner.

To be fair it was the best credentialed horse in the market. A horse going around single figures in a King George should be very short in a CC. I just cannot back anything coming off a 90 length loss at its last start

 

[TBellicious]

Ozzie's bought Birdman

Birdman set to fly this spring

One of Europe's most-promising stayers set for a new home in Australia

www.racing.com

To race in the Ballyroan where he'll need to get his rating up. Joining Chris Waller.

 

[Jugada]

Sayedaty Sedaty Going around tonight in the Gordon Stakes is a big watch. Been talked up more as a Caulfield Cup horse but have to assume will run in both regardless

Jan Brueghal for Aiden also a watch in the race as will likely be amongst the nominations.

Just a field of 5 so not going to be a super guide and would want to be running top 2 I think

 

[Jugada]

Warp Speed looks extremely likely to be coming from Japan. Very similar horse to Breakup. Will run in both Cups if he comes but expect will be too slow to feature at Caulfield

 

[FFB1]

Led to believe a few of the Carlton boys are in Birdman, including the captain.

 

[FFB1]

Sayedaty Sedaty Going around tonight in the Gordon Stakes is a big watch. Been talked up more as a Caulfield Cup horse but have to assume will run in both regardless.

Just a field of 5 so not going to be a super guide and would want to be running top 2 I think

Went OK.

How do you get held up in a 4 horse race

 

[TBellicious]

It looks very slow Sayedaty.

 

[Jugada]

I thought a bit the opposite. Travelled up to them on the bridle but was just outstayed the last furlong after he got crowded

Would have liked to have seen a better run than that though. Looks about Valiant King sort of levels at the moment

 

[Jugada]

Horrifying with dat Melbourne Cup form

 

[FFB1]

No Birdman in Ballyroan (passed first ballot though), Irish St Leg?

 

[Jugada]

No Birdman in Ballyroan (passed first ballot though), Irish St Leg?

Not sure but I would assume the Great Voltigeur would be the go before coming out here

 

[Jugada]

Crystal Black with the complete layup to pass the first ballot in it though going around as an odds on fav in a field of 4