Injury 2024 Injury Thread

[pK75]

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Liam Reidy also had some hamstring issues it seems. Wonder if doing a full match sim in 40 degree heat was a mistake lol.

Surely after kicking 4 goals in this intraclub game Voss is going to be picked up!

 

[Vintage]

VERY disappointing news re Chappy. He’s the player looking most likely to never reach anywhere near his potential due to recurring injuries.

really hope I’m wrong, but right now I’m very pessimistic and won’t be surprised if he only plays another 10 to 20 games before retiring / being delisted at the end of 2026.

 

[Mesc]

VERY disappointing news re Chappy. He’s the player looking most likely to never reach anywhere near his potential due to recurring injuries.

really hope I’m wrong, but right now I’m very pessimistic and won’t be surprised if he only plays another 10 to 20 games before retiring / being delisted at the end of 2026.

Whoah settle down man !

 

[Docker82]

Whoah settle down man !

I’ve seen absolute rubbish like this posted about so many players on this board.

There’s no way of telling how Chapman goes injury wise for the rest of his career.

People were saying the same about Alex Pearce and now he’s captain and has barely missed a game in two years. I was saying he was worth persisting with.

I’m only worried if a player keeps doing the same injury over and over again like Morabito, Apeness, Bennell etc. Pearce and Chapman both have had different types of injuries.

There is about as much chance Chapman retires in 2026 or being delisted as there is of me becoming Prime Minister. The guy has never missed a full season and has performed well when available. Say 10 games a year isn’t ideal but there’s a reason you have 44 players on your list and not 25 - injuries happen. Ten games a year from Chapman gets us closer to a flag than those ten games being given to some hack player just because they get injured less. And there’s the potential to have good whole seasons out of the guy - like 2022.

Good clubs don’t give up on talented players - they get them right. Giving up on Chapman after 3-4 injuries is borderline pathetic imo.

 

[The Feeder Club]

Is Chapman's hammy the same side as the prior "complex" hammy he had?
The guy is not overrated, he's a potential gun, need him fit

 

[FreoRicci]

Pearce, Morabito were both structural/bone related injuries.

Chapman’s is soft tissue. Can be rehabbed. Plenty of players got it right in the end. Must be frustrating for him seeing the young guys develop ahead of him.

 

[Paracleet]

We shouldn't be writing Chapman off. It also would be wrong not to acknowledge that someone with his injury history at such a young age often have their career cruelled. It's possible.
We should remain positive that he will work hard, get the right treatment and advice and get through it however.

 

[wakojako]

We shouldn't be writing Chapman off. It also would be wrong not to acknowledge that someone with his injury history at such a young age often have their career cruelled. It's possible.
We should remain positive that he will work hard, get the right treatment and advice and get through it however.

Probably needs to go overseas to get the best Hammy treatment.

 

[Docker82]

We shouldn't be writing Chapman off. It also would be wrong not to acknowledge that someone with his injury history at such a young age often have their career cruelled. It's possible.
We should remain positive that he will work hard, get the right treatment and advice and get through it however.

What I didn’t say yesterday is he has been on our list for three whole seasons - this year is his fourth.

Whilst I don’t know what to expect, this injury could be a sub 8 week injury and we see Chapman early into the season.

Given what I said yesterday it’s obvious I agree that we shouldn’t be writing him off. The strength and conditioning staff reviewing Chapman’s program might be worth some consideration though. It’s clear that some players do more and/or different things to others at training for example.

 

[Docker82]

Pearce, Morabito were both structural/bone related injuries.

Chapman’s is soft tissue. Can be rehabbed. Plenty of players got it right in the end. Must be frustrating for him seeing the young guys develop ahead of him.

Pearce’s leg injuries were mostly impact injuries and then botched surgery/recovery. Maybe one of his injuries didn’t fall into either category - that was why I was reasonably confident we could get some decent footy from him. I was actually less confident in Hamling getting back but it sort of looks like he has.

It was very different to Morabito. Anyway touchwood that’s all in the past for Pearce now.

 

[Carnthedockers]

 

[s_wd6]

Poor kid can’t catch a break.

 

[Vintage]

What does moderate mean? 4 to 6 weeks? And then need a game or 2 at Peel so he’s maybe 8 weeks away?

 

[Dockeroo]

Moderate would be maybe 5 or 6 weeks? To be honest that’s not a bad result considering what it could have been. He should be back playing by 25th March or so, maybe WAFL first for a game or two.

 

[freo_leo29]

Can we get that with Harvard referencing thanks

 

[Docker82]

What does moderate mean? 4 to 6 weeks? And then need a game or 2 at Peel so he’s maybe 8 weeks away?

Brierty saying ‘it’s unlikely at this stage he’s available for round one’.

That pretty much aligns with your estimate imo but I’d expect the club to do anything they can to get him 100% before he plays AFL. If that means a month playing pre-season/H&A WAFL games then it’s better than him doing the injury again.

 

[Docker82]

Moderate would be maybe 5 or 6 weeks? To be honest that’s not a bad result considering what it could have been. He should be back playing by 25th March or so, maybe WAFL first for a game or two.

Even if he’s back sometime in April, he could potentially play 18+ H&A games this year.

Isn’t ideal but he’s not going to miss too much of the season tbh.

 

[Dockeroo]

Even if he’s back sometime in April, he could potentially play 18+ H&A games this year.

Isn’t ideal but he’s not going to miss too much of the season tbh.

Yeah he seems to have gotten away without huge damage this time.

The much bigger concern is the repeated nature of these injuries on the same player. I’ve read about how Epl players like Ryan Giggs from Man United had to seriously modify their approach to the game to survive a series of hamstring issues, to the point he rarely sprinted flat out from age 23 onwards.
Not sure that’s as easily done in AFL which is a particularly brutal sport physically.

 

[Docker82]

Yeah he seems to have gotten away without huge damage this time.

The much bigger concern is the repeated nature of these injuries on the same player. I’ve read about how Epl players like Ryan Giggs from Man United had to seriously modify their approach to the game to survive a series of hamstring issues, to the point he rarely sprinted flat out from age 23 onwards.
Not sure that’s as easily done in AFL which is a particularly brutal sport physically.

Ryan Giggs was still playing Premier League in his late 30s, maybe even early 40s.

People yesterday were talking about Chapman being done. He’s 21.

 

[Dockeroo]

Ryan Giggs was still playing Premier League in his late 30s, maybe even early 40s.

People yesterday were talking about Chapman being done. He’s 21.

I don’t think Chapman is done at all, but my point was that he could well be affected long term in his mobility due to this spate of injuries. Giggs had to reinvent himself as a footballer from about 27 onwards - instead of dashing up and down wings like the early days when he first burst onto the scene, he became a player that used his smarts and football brain to adapt his style. That was directly because of the hammy issues he had.

 

[Superkoops]

Moderate Grade = Grade 2

Usually 6-8 weeks.

At the Eagles you had Tim Kelly

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Tim Kelly

Age

30

Ht

184cm

Wt

83kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

23.6

5star

K

13.5

5star

HB

10.1

5star

M

3.4

3star

T

4.0

5star

CL

4.9

5star

D

19.9

5star

K

12.3

5star

HB

7.6

4star

M

3.1

3star

T

4.7

5star

CL

3.6

4star

D

21.6

5star

K

10.4

4star

HB

11.2

5star

M

2.8

3star

T

3.8

5star

CL

3.8

5star

with a minor (grade 1) - has just missed 3 weeks and back into things. Then Liam Ryan

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Liam Ryan

Age

28

Ht

181cm

Wt

76kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.3

3star

K

8.6

3star

HB

2.7

2star

M

3.0

3star

T

2.0

4star

G

1.3

5star

D

9.9

3star

K

8.0

3star

HB

1.9

1star

M

3.3

3star

T

1.6

3star

G

1.3

5star

D

11.4

3star

K

9.0

4star

HB

2.4

3star

M

3.8

4star

T

1.8

4star

G

1.6

5star

a major (grade 3 - required surgery and out for 14-16 weeks). Chapman had the major last year with surgery.

This time Chapman in the middle - all going well back in 6-7 weeks and play some WAFL footy.

PS Game 1 South Fremantle vs Peel (09/03/2024)
PS Game 2 Peel vs East Perth (16/03/2024)
PS Game 3 Perth vs Peel (23/03/2024) - 6 weeks post injury
Round 1 WAFL (30/03/2024) - 7 weeks post injury.

Prob best outcome is playing a half for Peel reserves round 1 in 7 weeks.

 

[Vintage]

Moderate Grade = Grade 2

Usually 6-8 weeks.

At the Eagles you had Tim Kelly with a minor (grade 1) - has just missed 3 weeks and back into things. Then Liam Ryan a major (grade 3 - required surgery and out for 14-16 weeks). Chapman had the major last year with surgery.

This time Chapman in the middle - all going well back in 6-7 weeks and play some WAFL footy.

PS Game 1 South Fremantle vs Peel (09/03/2024)
PS Game 2 Peel vs East Perth (16/03/2024)
PS Game 3 Perth vs Peel (23/03/2024) - 6 weeks post injury
Round 1 WAFL (30/03/2024) - 7 weeks post injury.

Prob best outcome is playing a half for Peel reserves round 1 in 7 weeks.

Dang. Still pretty significant in that case. That would have him absolute minimum 9 weeks away from playing AFL, and more likely 10-12 then - that sucks.

 

[Docker82]

I don’t think Chapman is done at all, but my point was that he could well be affected long term in his mobility due to this spate of injuries. Giggs had to reinvent himself as a footballer from about 27 onwards - instead of dashing up and down wings like the early days when he first burst onto the scene, he became a player that used his smarts and football brain to adapt his style. That was directly because of the hammy issues he had.

Highly doubt many players without injuries could play wing that way for a top six Premier League side past their early 30s. It’s a a demanding role and there’s plenty of talent from all over the world that can come in and replace aging players.

Giggs also had plenty of technical ability so was able to play smarter and in different roles more effectively than most. Whilst injuries played their part it was necessary to adapt anyway imo.

 

[Superkoops]

Highly doubt many players without injuries could play wing that way for a top six Premier League side past their early 30s. It’s a a demanding role and there’s plenty of talent from all over the world that can come in and replace aging players.

Giggs also had plenty of technical ability so was able to play smarter and in different roles more effectively than most. Whilst injuries played their part it was necessary to adapt anyway imo.

I reckon we bin the wing idea personally. Especially with him out for all the pre-season games. Settle him off half back. I reckon Johnson has shown a bit on the Wing last year and at times this pre-season.

 

[Taylor]

If we are going to play close to the boundary when controlling the ball through kick mark play then playing one of our inside mids as the skinny side winger is really just playing a fourth stoppage mid starting a few metres back off the contest.

I think Johnson is too good in the contest to have him off it by too far, I think Brayshaw is too good moving inside to outside the same way - but if the ball is close enough to the boundary for stoppages or throw ins then it can work.

At the bounce it's fine having a big guy on the wing who will come in close if there is a follow up. The ball should move out of the middle fast enough in our direction that the opposition wing can't run back to block space.