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Am I the only one that thinks if we are to give up multiple first round picks its better off trying to get Patracca or Sdk rather than another hbf that can easily found elsewhere
That’s a fair point, and I agree with the first part of the sentence.

However, attracting players isn’t easy—we can’t just pick and choose whoever we want. There are plenty of players who would rather go to other clubs instead of coming to Carlton. So, when the opportunity comes to recruit an All-Australian medium defender wo is beautiful kick, you’ve got to take it.

Plus, we don’t always know who the club has been targeting behind the scenes. We likely only hear a fraction of the efforts being made so I trust the club is doing their best to secure the best available to them.
 
I’d offer Gary Rohan a 1 year contract on 2 points.

1. We up our list from 0 to 1 of players named Gary.
2. So Kelly Underwood can call ā€œCripps passes it to Gary from the Orange Teamā€
 
Thinking about the draft.

Currently the Academy or F/S players who you would expect to attract a bid in the first 30 or so based on Rookie Me's rankings

2. Levi Ashcroft (BL)
11. Leonardo Lombard (GC)
13. Isaac Kako (Ess)
24. Sam Marshall (BL)

If the bids came at those picks on current draft positions they would pay:

Ashcroft = Pick 17, Pick 55, Pick 69 and a 550 point deficit in 2025 First Round

Lombard = Pick 12, getting Pick 56 back

Kako = Pick 28 and a 292 point deficit in 2025 first round

Marshall is moot, Lions can't even cover Ashcroft with current hand

Lions and Essendon will be wanting to trade around to get more points. Gold Coast to get better value for pick 12 given the chance that Lombard gets bid on early.

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As an aside, I think the Suns have done well to dampen Lombards draft stock. Played in a VFL Grand Final as a 16 yr old last year and for all money was looking like the best academy prospect they've had (including of last yrs crop) then this year we've barely heard of him.

Only knock on him is height, but he'll be a star.
 

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I’d offer Gary Rohan a 1 year contract on 2 points.

1. We up our list from 0 to 1 of players named Gary.
2. So Kelly Underwood can call ā€œCripps passes it to Gary from the Orange Teamā€
He fractured his skull, didn't he?


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Brandon Parfitt gets too many possessions and makes too many tackles to not find a spot on another list. He'd be handy depth at least for a few teams.
 
Brandon Parfitt gets too many possessions and makes too many tackles to not find a spot on another list. He'd be handy depth at least for a few teams.
Good sort of player to protect kids.

Richmond, North, West Coast should look.

I think he's not the sort for a contender, even though every premiership team has a few like him

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Brandon Parfitt gets too many possessions and makes too many tackles to not find a spot on another list. He'd be handy depth at least for a few teams.

He would definitely be worth the punt imo

Not for us. Kid is not composed, hurries disposal and particularly blindly kicks forward... we should keep away, let Norf offer him a deal.
 
As an aside, I think the Suns have done well to dampen Lombards draft stock. Played in a VFL Grand Final as a 16 yr old last year and for all money was looking like the best academy prospect they've had (including of last yrs crop) then this year we've barely heard of him.

Only knock on him is height, but he'll be a star.

100%. I would personally take him number 1.

Though I think we gave done the same with the Campos. It's not a coincidence that they pretty much haven't played the back half of the season and only played 1 game at sanfl reserve level this year.
 

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Re-generating on the go. That is what they do well. They will go to the draft and get another 2 or 3 mature recruits.
They are a Patrick Dangerfield and Jeremy Cameron away from finishing 12th which they did last year when they had interrupted seasons. In the last 10 years they have traded in Cameron and Dangerfield who were known stars who wanted to live down there. We gave them Tuohey which was a big win for them.

Apart from those 3 they have traded in Mitch Clark, Rhys Stanley, Lachie Henderson, zac Smith, Aaron Black, Nathan Kreuger, Gary Rohan, Jack Steven, Josh Jenkins, Jonathon Ceglar Tanner Bruhn, Jack Bowes, Oliver Henry and traded Ablett back when he was about finished. There is some average footballers on that list.

I assume that they got Stengle as a DFA which was a good get.

People get carried away because of 1 good finals win (over port) . I personally think that their list is in an average state particularly if Bailey Smith doesn't fire for them which is on the cards.

They are well coached but it's just as easy to see them being also runs next year as to see them having some success. I would much prefer our list to theirs.
 
They are a Patrick Dangerfield and Jeremy Cameron away from finishing 12th which they did last year when they had interrupted seasons. In the last 10 years they have traded in Cameron and Dangerfield who were known stars who wanted to live down there. We gave them Tuohey which was a big win for them.

Apart from those 3 they have traded in Mitch Clark, Rhys Stanley, Lachie Henderson, zac Smith, Aaron Black, Nathan Kreuger, Gary Rohan, Jack Steven, Josh Jenkins, Jonathon Ceglar Tanner Bruhn, Jack Bowes, Oliver Henry and traded Ablett back when he was about finished. There is some average footballers on that list.

I assume that they got Stengle as a DFA which was a good get.

People get carried away because of 1 good finals win (over port) . I personally think that their list is in an average state particularly if Bailey Smith doesn't fire for them which is on the cards.

They are well coached but it's just as easy to see them being also runs next year as to see them having some success. I would much prefer our list to theirs.

1 good finals win is a very very narrow view! šŸ˜‚ However, I’d also say that they were a Max Holmes hamstring away from another GF and, every chance, another flag… on top of that I’d say they were nowhere near their best on Saturday night and still got within two goals of the GF.

They also brought in NSM Isaac Smith as a free agent and picked up a top 10 in comp player at pick 40. Close and Dempsey via Rookie and Miers with a very late selection in the draft. They do many things well.

Considering how long we’ve been rebuilding, their performance shits all over us. Their small-medium forwards are miles ahead of us and they have very few players who flinch (unlike our Gov, among others).

Selling Bruhn and O Henry short imo. Both projecting to be guns.

10 years (20+ years?) into a rebuild, we should be smoking the Cats by now and yet, here we are.
 
1 good finals win is a very very narrow view! šŸ˜‚ However, I’d also say that they were a Max Holmes hamstring away from another GF and, every chance, another flag… on top of that I’d say they were nowhere near their best on Saturday night and still got within two goals of the GF.

They also brought in NSM Isaac Smith as a free agent and picked up a top 10 in comp player at pick 40. Close and Dempsey via Rookie and Miers with a very late selection in the draft. They do many things well.

Considering how long we’ve been rebuilding, their performance shits all over us. Their small-medium forwards are miles ahead of us and they have very few players who flinch (unlike our Gov, among others).

Selling Bruhn and O Henry short imo. Both projecting to be guns.

10 years (20+ years?) into a rebuild, we should be smoking the Cats by now and yet, here we are.
We actually flogged them by 10 goals plus the last time that we played them before our pillars turned to salt.

Tanner Bruhn projects to be an o.k. B Grader at best. He's not a kid anymore and had 20 touches or more in only 7 out of 17 games this year as a midfielder. He was terribly disappointing on Saturday night with 10 touches.

Ollie Henry can play but comes across as a fairly self centred individual . Had 13 of 23 games this year where kicked 0 or 1 goals and he doesn't add much more than kick goals.

But Bruhn and Henry were only 2 of 14 names that I listed as trades that weren't world beaters. Happy to concede that they are better than some if the others.
 
I'd be interested in either Jeka or Foster
Either would be a good pick up as a DFA.

I'd be shocked if Foster doesn't get picked up by another club. Cats have a good crop of young talls coming through. They of course picked up Mitch Edwards in last year's draft, so I reckon Foster has been squeezed out. Still only 20yo and looked good at times at VFL level as a forward, but can play forward/ruck.
 
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