List Mgmt. 2024 Trade & List Management Thread - Part 3

[giantroo]

Spoiler: 2024 Draft Picks

 

[Disco Dew]

Think you'd want an ironclad agreement that they won't take who we want at 11 at 10

Maybe, but I would think we’d have our eyes on a few players around that mark

 

[the big lebowski]

So we’re getting 6,10 and 11?

 

[roos 10]

So we’re getting 6,10 and 11?

I would do that for 2 / 2025 1st rounder

 

[the big lebowski]

I would do that for 2 / 2025 1st rounder

So we’re getting 6,10,11 and their F1?

 

[Supa_Nova]

I see the benefit in this for both clubs.

If I'm Richmond I want to do this having seen the excitement and synergy of sheezel/wardlaw, anderson/Rowell, rozzee/butters (different picks I know)

Pick 1 and 2 just elevates this. I'd be wrapt if we had their hand and did this trade even with our current list tbh.

Conversely, it suits us for positional needs.

 

[Colby Cheer Squad]

I see the benefit in this for both clubs.

If I'm Richmond I want to do this having seen the excitement and synergy of sheezel/wardlaw, anderson/Rowell, rozzee/butters (different picks I know)

Pick 1 and 2 just elevates this. I'd be wrapt if we had their hand and did this trade even with our current list tbh.

Conversely, it suits us for positional needs.

I would reluctantly accept this offer of 6 and 10 for 2 along the hand that I bit off when the offer was made.

 

[Pravda Roo]

We can't get rid of both Teakle and CCJ until if/when Goad is ready. Unless we trade in someone else to ruck when X gets injured. So I could see Teakle staying on the books for a couple years yet. Every team needs low-cost depth options.

Good points and I agreed that we have struck gold with these talls

 

[Pravda Roo]

Think you'd want an ironclad agreement that they won't take who we want at 11 at 10

Mite as well just give us 10 then ?

 

[Pravda Roo]

I would do that for 2 / 2025 1st rounder

Yeah our first pick rounder could be 12 or 14 so let's hope Richmond takes our call or mms

 

[DocSholl]

Surely we'd be biting hands off for either?

It's okay to expect a premium price for a premium asset.

The attitude regarding pick value is interesting. When we first went down the bottom, I think anyone on here would have said 6/10 is a minimum requirement for 2 and maybe even not enough. Now that we've been down the bottom for a while and have basically been expectant of top picks. Its like daring to ask for a high price is impolite and we should just settle for 6/18.

 

[King Corey]

So we’re getting 6,10,11 and their F1?

+1 Dutch Tulip

 

[Sticksphat]

Think you'd want an ironclad agreement that they won't take who we want at 11 at 10

or they agree to take CCJ back.

 

[Makeshift Park]

It's okay to expect a premium price for a premium asset.

The attitude regarding pick value is interesting. When we first went down the bottom, I think anyone on here would have said 6/10 is a minimum requirement for 2 and maybe even not enough. Now that we've been down the bottom for a while and have basically been expectant of top picks. Its like daring to ask for a high price is impolite and we should just settle for 6/18.

It depends in part on how well you tolerate disappointment I think.

By contrast, I could say that since we've been rebuilding since about 2017 its okay to expect that we'll play finals next year.

 

[the big lebowski]

+1 Dutch Tulip

I don’t know what that is

But I want it

 

[Roodus]

Both sides need to remember those picks of 6, 10 an 11 and more like 9, 13 and 14 after bidding. However obviously this draft has depth.

 

[King Corey]

I don’t know what that is

But I want it

Fun fact: Adrian Dodoro was paid exclusively in Dutch Tulips for 20 years

 

[perplexed]

We can't get rid of both Teakle and CCJ until if/when Goad is ready. Unless we trade in someone else to ruck when X gets injured. So I could see Teakle staying on the books for a couple years yet. Every team needs low-cost depth options.

The problem with that is neither CJ or Teakle can ruck. We would be better off ditching both and getting a proper ruck, like Crossley, as a back-up.

 

[LB2Snake]

I don't mind 6,10+18 for 2 and our F1.......Gives Tiges and us a bit of an each way bet on the death ride too

 

[Sphynx]

Both sides need to remember those picks of 6, 10 an 11 and more like 9, 13 and 14 after bidding. However obviously this draft has depth.

It's a good point that needs to be repeated.

Just because it's the same pool, doesn't mean you get a player of comparable quality.

Pick 2 might only move for Ashcroft.

6 could move that same single pick, but 10 could move 3-4 spots.

It's really going to be 3 for 7 & 13-14

 

[hoffseason gains 01]

Both sides need to remember those picks of 6, 10 an 11 and more like 9, 13 and 14 after bidding. However obviously this draft has depth.

Doubt all 3 get bid on before 6 so that’s probably 7 and then only a small chance kako& lombard get bid on before 10&11. Either way you know what bracket of player will be available there vs. @ 2

 

[sregit]

I don't mind 6,10+18 for 2 and our F1.......Gives Tiges and us a bit of an each way bet on the death ride too

Only sensible trade scenario I’ve seen on either Richmond or North boards. Both sides desperately trying to win here. Personally I’m hoping nothing gets done.

 

[The Dingrel]

Yep that could be an option if we don't split 2, but I'll actually correct what I said in that we shouldn't trade anything before the draft. In thinking more about it more we should wait until pick 1 called out by Tigers and then we know what the options are before moving future picks.

If FOS gets called at 1, that might have Blues and Crows making offers for 2 to get Draper ahead of each other.
Demons, Saints and Tigers will have some sort of offer. But if we don't move the F1 or split 2, then we could certainly move the F2 for pick 28 off Bombres.

Yeah that's a good call. But wonder if we're a little compromised by signalling we looking to split and slide. Eg, say Carlton want FOS, and tiges take Smith at 1, kind of signals the player we really wan't isn't FOS....the slide a bit but not too far could be Tauru, Armstrong, Smillie, even,,,,but most likely not FOS, Draper, Smith, or possibly Langford or Lalor who most seem to think are #1 contenders (maybe not Draper but most would suggest ahead of the 6ish spot we're prepared to slide to). That then signals to say Melbourne a handful of players we are indeed after and they get in ahead of us at 5. Im kind of for holding 2, unless for a godfather offer, and just take the player we want and try to trade futures into the draft. Against that though is if there are a few players available around there where we are genuinely indifferent between! Dunno, will be intriguing, but I sure as hell hope Caleb Daniel is best on ground every week, and is a genuine bnf contender.

 

[Shinboner1]

The problem with that is neither CJ or Teakle can ruck. We would be better off ditching both and getting a proper ruck, like Crossley, as a back-up.

Teakle can ruck

 

[King Corey]

I don't mind 6,10+18 for 2 and our F1.......Gives Tiges and us a bit of an each way bet on the death ride too

That's potentially trading 1+2 for 6, 10, 18.

Return doesn't match the risk.

Both teams would be better off abstaining. Fwiw I'd want 6, 10, 11, 23 minimum and they'd say no.

 

[Passmore]

Tommy getting a bit bored and setting the cat amongst the pigeons.

If it keeps him away from the group Whatsapp, I guess it's for the best.

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