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Sneaky way to add another train on player while remaining at the mandated quota of 6, or just a kid looking to set up his 2024 season of VFL to maybe get another opportunity down the track?
 

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Mollythedolly said:
Sneaky way to add another train on player while remaining at the mandated quota of 6, or just a kid looking to set up his 2024 season of VFL to maybe get another opportunity down the track?
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I was talking to Josh about this morning. He thinks we can get an exception from the 6 only given we have an extra spot


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Sneaky way to add another train on player while remaining at the mandated quota of 6, or just a kid looking to set up his 2024 season of VFL to maybe get another opportunity down the track?
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I don't think it's sneaky - He's signed with the VFL team, you can't stop him from training with the rest of the footballers at the club. But then again, if he doesn't count against the quota, then Josh Eyre and Campbell Hustwaite shouldn't count against it either.
 
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I don't think it's sneaky - He's signed with the VFL team, you can't stop him from training with the rest of the footballers at the club. But then again, if he doesn't count against the quota, then Josh Eyre and Campbell Hustwaite shouldn't count against it either.
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I think it is sneaky. I know he can’t be stopped from training with the seniors but we only generally get a few VFL players training with the seniors in any given year. I assume coming from FT at the Hawks he doesn’t yet have a job outside footy so has the free time.

Eyre and Hustwaite have both been registered with the afl as train on players. Means they get paid as train on players.
 
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I was talking to Josh about this morning. He thinks we can get an exception from the 6 only given we have an extra spot


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If Long isn’t registered as a train on player, can he still be signed as a SSP addition? I guess if we’re keen, we could always shuffle 1 of the current 6 out and Long in if it is required.
 
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If Long isn’t registered as a train on player, can he still be signed as a SSP addition? I guess if we’re keen, we could always shuffle 1 of the current 6 out and Long in if it is required.
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You can sign anyone eligible for the draft last year, they don't have to be training with you.

Technically Oleg Markov was training with Carlton when we signed him last year.
 
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If Long isn’t registered as a train on player, can he still be signed as a SSP addition? I guess if we’re keen, we could always shuffle 1 of the current 6 out and Long in if it is required.
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Long is 194cm & 94kg - that's a big midfielder.
When you click on his pic on the Hawthorn website it then says midfielder/forward.
It also says he has good endurance.
He's only 20.
 

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Long is 194cm & 94kg - that's a big midfielder.
When you click on his pic on the Hawthorn website it then says midfielder/forward.
It also says he has good endurance.
He's only 20.
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You wonder why they would delist after less than 18 month even more so when you consider he is only 20, but if you look at their midfield it is easy too understand.

If he is training with the seniors they may well view him as more than VFL relevant.
 
From Extreme B and White and fb Side by Side from annabell

Victoria Park is at the moment the epicentre or our summer ambitions. It was a sultry morning with the sky pregnant with possibility, and the players were out again prior to 8.30 limbering up. It was muggy, and the session was punctuated by transient showers. The only notable absentee was Carmichael who was a casuality with an unknown injury. I asked Andrew McCormack if he could follow this up for Pie fans. Tom Morris and Josh Gabelich were also present and they conversed below the erstwhile members stand. WHE returned to training, while Pendles, Sidey and Howe were again missing as they have a 'pick and choose' card to use prior to the Christmas break.

Identifying players atm, is freighted with multiple headaches as many are travelling incognito, not to mention the bevy of outsiders trialling over summer in the hope of winning a spot on the list. Today for instance, JDG who seems to pick his numbers from a lucky dip bag was wearing #14, Nick donned the #2 in white, while the same number appeared in both white and black, which kept us guessing. Added to the ranks of those jostling for a position on our list, was Ned Long, formerly of the Hawks. We spotted this newbie and it wasn't until the guys shouted outed "Longy" in a drill, that we could ascertain who he was, later confirmed by Gabelich. All this is probably a nightmare for neophyte trackwatchers.

In pleasing news, Josh Eyre again impressed. He kicks the ball precisely over a range of distances, moves quite well and appears to have good hands. Likewise Teakle marks solidly, has an imposing frame and appears to have fitted into the group seamlessly. Bytel caught the eye a few times today, while Sullivan who blended in so well he was hard to keep track of, moved strongly and appears to have good hands in close. Interestingly, the regular players reward these guys with reassuring affirmation after they do something well. In particular Maynard bored with his stationary cycling ululates from the sidelines. On Monday he was inside the Ryder Stand; today he was positioned on the boundary line, sweating profusely in the humid conditions. At one point he told the trainer he was knacked but he had to work his way through this arduous routine. He is notably finer by dint of him being forced to eschew the weights post his shoulder operation.

The only players constrained in a major way today, were Bobby and IQ who ran laps. The former hurt is shoulder on Monday during the brutal tackling session, which was later strapped, though he was sans any medical tape for the running session. IQ appeared to feel discomfort in the glute/hammy area. It was amusing to watch Bobbly struggle to match it with super fit IQ as their running regimen wore on.


Elliott did not take part in some of the drills the aforementioned McCormack was chatting to him. He remarked that Ash was looking fit and perhaps a bit leaner and Jamie observed that Johnson had worked hard over the break.

Once Wade commanded that training proper commenced, players wound up their sporadic kicking among mates and there was some extra resistance work and running between cones. The mini-hurdles were negotiated with some emulating kangaroos as they jumped and hopped to work the leg muscles. Groups of players with arms extended like giant tentacles, or if one is Jack Dyer (testicles), while holding relatively heavy looking weights.

Following this, there was an activity I hadn't previously witnessed. All players bar the boundary runners, assembled at one end, and they had to sprint solo over the distance of forty metres while their teammates urged them on. There were certainly comments from their peers reverberating around the arena as they poured their energy into this high octane activity. Speedsters like Noble stood out, while Cox ran a bit like an awkward giraffe and Begg looked sluggish. Tew and Eyre were long striders, while the likes of Richards pumped their legs like fast rotating pistons. Nick, Moore, Jordy and Cameron who appear to be on a mildly modified program refrained from running.


It was heartening to see Dean striding out at full pace after he left the track prematurely on Monday and appeared shortly thereafter in his civvies.

There were then four different stations which players rotated through followed an activity whereby most of those in the main group sprinted between strategically placed cones, while the big guys - Begg, Cox, Teakle Steene, who appears to have taken ownership of Truscoe's old number, worked together. Harry, Tew, Nick, Moore, Cameron and Jamie trained separately at this juncture.

What was pleasing about the running activity was that both Beau and Reef again stood out in terms of showcasing improved endurance, with both maintaining their extra speed throughout. Reef was leading them as they completed their run throughs.

It was also good to see Nick offering Brayden and encouraging pat on the back as he struggled through his taxing bike pedalling.

Following a hydration break, Andy Ottens addressed the group explaining that they had to redress the errors they made during Monday's session and he held up a whiteboard which they all stared at intently.

This precipitated different activities in four stations with players rotating through each. There was some contested work, some close in handball but another drill in which players had to jump the hurdles, receive the ball and then shoot for goal from different positions. The contesting work took place adjacent to the ghost of the Rush stand, while the drill in front of the Ryder which saw half of the players sporting lime green vests appeared to have the objective of moving the ball swiftly, evading opponents and then heading forward, avoiding the circuitous route with some players calling out 'corridor'. In this drill both Kreuger and Bytel effected good one-handed pick-ups from the deck.




Selwood said that the emphasis was to be on the scenario in which the players had to win the ball back after losing it. This was connected to the turnover game to hone our skills in maximising the results from this. Several drills were performed in relation to this. Schultz certainly has some toe; he wove his way through congestion with celerity on occasions.

Lyndon Dunn surfaced at training and shook hands with Crisp who came to the fence ringing the Ryder stand. His wobbly walking appears to be the legacy of his wretched knee injuries and the toll a footy career can take.

Thereafter the players engaged in some whole ground ball movement.

They head off to Gippsland for a brief camp on Sunday.
 
Sea fog said:
From Extreme B and White and fb Side by Side from annabell

Victoria Park is at the moment the epicentre or our summer ambitions. It was a sultry morning with the sky pregnant with possibility, and the players were out again prior to 8.30 limbering up. It was muggy, and the session was punctuated by transient showers. The only notable absentee was Carmichael who was a casuality with an unknown injury. I asked Andrew McCormack if he could follow this up for Pie fans. Tom Morris and Josh Gabelich were also present and they conversed below the erstwhile members stand. WHE returned to training, while Pendles, Sidey and Howe were again missing as they have a 'pick and choose' card to use prior to the Christmas break.

Identifying players atm, is freighted with multiple headaches as many are travelling incognito, not to mention the bevy of outsiders trialling over summer in the hope of winning a spot on the list. Today for instance, JDG who seems to pick his numbers from a lucky dip bag was wearing #14, Nick donned the #2 in white, while the same number appeared in both white and black, which kept us guessing. Added to the ranks of those jostling for a position on our list, was Ned Long, formerly of the Hawks. We spotted this newbie and it wasn't until the guys shouted outed "Longy" in a drill, that we could ascertain who he was, later confirmed by Gabelich. All this is probably a nightmare for neophyte trackwatchers.

In pleasing news, Josh Eyre again impressed. He kicks the ball precisely over a range of distances, moves quite well and appears to have good hands. Likewise Teakle marks solidly, has an imposing frame and appears to have fitted into the group seamlessly. Bytel caught the eye a few times today, while Sullivan who blended in so well he was hard to keep track of, moved strongly and appears to have good hands in close. Interestingly, the regular players reward these guys with reassuring affirmation after they do something well. In particular Maynard bored with his stationary cycling ululates from the sidelines. On Monday he was inside the Ryder Stand; today he was positioned on the boundary line, sweating profusely in the humid conditions. At one point he told the trainer he was knacked but he had to work his way through this arduous routine. He is notably finer by dint of him being forced to eschew the weights post his shoulder operation.

The only players constrained in a major way today, were Bobby and IQ who ran laps. The former hurt is shoulder on Monday during the brutal tackling session, which was later strapped, though he was sans any medical tape for the running session. IQ appeared to feel discomfort in the glute/hammy area. It was amusing to watch Bobbly struggle to match it with super fit IQ as their running regimen wore on.


Elliott did not take part in some of the drills the aforementioned McCormack was chatting to him. He remarked that Ash was looking fit and perhaps a bit leaner and Jamie observed that Johnson had worked hard over the break.

Once Wade commanded that training proper commenced, players wound up their sporadic kicking among mates and there was some extra resistance work and running between cones. The mini-hurdles were negotiated with some emulating kangaroos as they jumped and hopped to work the leg muscles. Groups of players with arms extended like giant tentacles, or if one is Jack Dyer (testicles), while holding relatively heavy looking weights.

Following this, there was an activity I hadn't previously witnessed. All players bar the boundary runners, assembled at one end, and they had to sprint solo over the distance of forty metres while their teammates urged them on. There were certainly comments from their peers reverberating around the arena as they poured their energy into this high octane activity. Speedsters like Noble stood out, while Cox ran a bit like an awkward giraffe and Begg looked sluggish. Tew and Eyre were long striders, while the likes of Richards pumped their legs like fast rotating pistons. Nick, Moore, Jordy and Cameron who appear to be on a mildly modified program refrained from running.


It was heartening to see Dean striding out at full pace after he left the track prematurely on Monday and appeared shortly thereafter in his civvies.

There were then four different stations which players rotated through followed an activity whereby most of those in the main group sprinted between strategically placed cones, while the big guys - Begg, Cox, Teakle Steene, who appears to have taken ownership of Truscoe's old number, worked together. Harry, Tew, Nick, Moore, Cameron and Jamie trained separately at this juncture.

What was pleasing about the running activity was that both Beau and Reef again stood out in terms of showcasing improved endurance, with both maintaining their extra speed throughout. Reef was leading them as they completed their run throughs.

It was also good to see Nick offering Brayden and encouraging pat on the back as he struggled through his taxing bike pedalling.

Following a hydration break, Andy Ottens addressed the group explaining that they had to redress the errors they made during Monday's session and he held up a whiteboard which they all stared at intently.

This precipitated different activities in four stations with players rotating through each. There was some contested work, some close in handball but another drill in which players had to jump the hurdles, receive the ball and then shoot for goal from different positions. The contesting work took place adjacent to the ghost of the Rush stand, while the drill in front of the Ryder which saw half of the players sporting lime green vests appeared to have the objective of moving the ball swiftly, evading opponents and then heading forward, avoiding the circuitous route with some players calling out 'corridor'. In this drill both Kreuger and Bytel effected good one-handed pick-ups from the deck.




Selwood said that the emphasis was to be on the scenario in which the players had to win the ball back after losing it. This was connected to the turnover game to hone our skills in maximising the results from this. Several drills were performed in relation to this. Schultz certainly has some toe; he wove his way through congestion with celerity on occasions.

Lyndon Dunn surfaced at training and shook hands with Crisp who came to the fence ringing the Ryder stand. His wobbly walking appears to be the legacy of his wretched knee injuries and the toll a footy career can take.

Thereafter the players engaged in some whole ground ball movement.

They head off to Gippsland for a brief camp on Sunday.
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Good to hear Dean was back out there today.

Carmichael seems to have had a few concussions now hasn't he?

It's looking like Eyre, Teakle, Bytel & Sullivan the most likely as SSP's at this stage.. no mention of Sof there today, I think there was an ankle injury on Monday?
 
ElliottsMaggies said:
Good to hear Dean was back out there today.

Carmichael seems to have had a few concussions now hasn't he?

It's looking like Eyre, Teakle, Bytel & Sullivan the most likely as SSP's at this stage.. no mention of Sof there today, I think there was an ankle injury on Monday?
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Sof was there. You just don’t really notice him. Doesn’t stand out.


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Pre-Season Training
Wednesday 13th December

Warm and humid with an occasional lightning flash High 20s

Quaynor and Bobby ran laps and were supervised for about an hour.

I'm glad I wasn't training out there this morning; it was oppressive enough just watching.
I won't go through the drills, but will say that in the sprints, some players were consistently near the front of the pack: Lippa, Bytel, Lachie Shultz and McInnes.

I couldn't place a new guy wearing No.11; WHE told me his name was Ned Long who played for Box Hill last season. If he doesn't make it as a footballer, there's a career as a Versace model awaiting - those cheek bones!

Jack Bytel: great mover, non-stop runner, endurance and pretty quick. He's obviously worked on his pace - this was a issue early according to a report I read. Uses the ball very neatly. He's a strong, mobile mid.
Reef McInnes: worked hard. Used the ball very well and worked mostly with the mids. I've always hoped he could be a big midfielder, but he hasn't always taken his chances.
Ash Johnson: Trained well. Mr Apples says he's the McStay replacement, but I'm not convinced. He has every skill needed
to cement a spot, except the defensive work ethic. At least, that's been my impression to date. Can he seize the opportunity? I think this is one of the very big questions for Collingwood in 2024.
Harry DiMattia: Pace to burn, good user and footy IQ. I've only watched him twice, but this bloke has leadership written all over him. This is going to be a great ride.
Fin Macrae: Strong performer today - he's efficient and competent - he never catches the eye. I made a point of watching him through binoculars for a fair time, as I did with all of the above players. He's not inspiring, but he may turn out to be a good soldier.
Josh Eyre: the second time I've seen him and he looks OK. Decent ball user and hard worker. Looks pretty green.
Brynn Teakle: is an imposing figure, and Mr Apples says he's the type we need. He could certainly play as a back-up ruck, but he may also be a KPP.
Sam Sofronidis: I kept trying to find him. He just seemed to blend in and become invisible, but that may not be such a bad thing and anyway, it's hard to focus on all the new boys. He's a good size, is lean and mobile. In his mid twenties and having faced many AFL disappointments, we know he will be very keen for a place on our list. I'm reserving judgement.

A few other observations:
Maynard is working extremely hard on the stationary bike. It's not just endurance work he's doing, but also interval work-outs closely monitored by a trainer. At times today during his break, he wandered among the players giving encouragement. He even gave Nick a shoulder massage. What a guy!
Nick & Josh: Nick's new facial hair is going to cause some problems for commentators this year; hard to pick them now.

The final training session for the year is on Friday.

I'll add a few snaps below. Isaac.png Moore:Ned Long.png Nick massage.png Slim Maynard.JPG
 
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Apples said:
Pre-Season Training
Wednesday 13th December

Warm and humid with an occasional lightning flash High 20s

Quaynor and Bobby ran laps and were supervised for about an hour.

I'm glad I wasn't training out there this morning; it was oppressive enough just watching.
I won't go through the drills, but will say that in the sprints, some players were consistently near the front of the pack: Lippa, Bytel,

I couldn't place a new guy wearing No.11; WHE told me his name was Ned Long who played for Box Hill last season. If he doesn't make it as a footballer, there's a career as a Versace model awaiting - those cheek bones!

Jack Bytel: great mover, non-stop runner, endurance and pretty quick. He's obviously worked on his pace - this was a issue early according to a report I read. Uses the ball very neatly. He's a strong, mobile mid.
Reef McInnes: worked hard. Used the ball very well and worked mostly with the mids. I've always hoped he could be a big midfielder, but he hasn't always taken his chances.
Ash Johnson: Trained well. Mr Apples says he's the McStay replacement, but I'm not convinced. He has every skill needed
to cement a spot, except the defensive work ethic. At least, that's been my impression to date. Can he seize the opportunity? I think this is one of the very big questions for Collingwood in 2024.
Harry DiMattia: Pace to burn, good user and footy IQ. I've only watched him twice, but this bloke has leadership written all over him. This is going to be a great ride.
Fin Macrae: Strong performer today - he's efficient and competent - he never catches the eye. I made a point of watching him through binoculars for a fair time, as I did with all of the above players. He's not inspiring, but he may turn out to be a good soldier.
Josh Eyre: the second time I've seen him and he looks OK. Decent ball user and hard worker. Looks pretty green.
Brynn Teakle: is an imposing figure, and Mr Apples says he's the type we need. He could certainly play as a back-up ruck, but he may also be a KPP.
Sam Sofronidis: I kept trying to find him. He just seemed to blend in and become invisible, but that may not be such a bad thing and anyway, it's hard to focus on all the new boys. He's a good size, is lean and mobile. In his mid twenties and having faced many AFL disappointments, we know he will be very keen for a place on our list. I'm reserving judgement.

A few other observations:
Maynard is working extremely hard on the stationary bike. It's not just endurance work he's doing, but also interval work-outs closely monitored by a trainer. At times today during his break, he wandered among the players giving encouragement. He even gave Nick a shoulder massage. What a guy!
Nick & Josh: Nick's new facial hair is going to cause some problems for commentators this year; hard to pick them now.

The final training session for the year is on Friday.

I'll add a few snaps below. View attachment 1871092View attachment 1871093View attachment 1871094View attachment 1871096
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How did Sullivan go today?

And Dean? How's he looking?
 
Apples said:
Dean was OK actually. I was glad to see him out there to complete a session! I must say I have a soft spot for him after the wretched run he's had. Fingers crossed for Charlie. Others have mentioned Sullivan, but he hasn't crossed my radar.
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I've got high hopes for Dean too. Just needs some luck on his side, can't fault his commitment & resilience.
 
Sea fog said:
From Extreme B and White and fb Side by Side from annabell

Victoria Park is at the moment the epicentre or our summer ambitions. It was a sultry morning with the sky pregnant with possibility, and the players were out again prior to 8.30 limbering up. It was muggy, and the session was punctuated by transient showers. The only notable absentee was Carmichael who was a casuality with an unknown injury. I asked Andrew McCormack if he could follow this up for Pie fans. Tom Morris and Josh Gabelich were also present and they conversed below the erstwhile members stand. WHE returned to training, while Pendles, Sidey and Howe were again missing as they have a 'pick and choose' card to use prior to the Christmas break.

Identifying players atm, is freighted with multiple headaches as many are travelling incognito, not to mention the bevy of outsiders trialling over summer in the hope of winning a spot on the list. Today for instance, JDG who seems to pick his numbers from a lucky dip bag was wearing #14, Nick donned the #2 in white, while the same number appeared in both white and black, which kept us guessing. Added to the ranks of those jostling for a position on our list, was Ned Long, formerly of the Hawks. We spotted this newbie and it wasn't until the guys shouted outed "Longy" in a drill, that we could ascertain who he was, later confirmed by Gabelich. All this is probably a nightmare for neophyte trackwatchers.

In pleasing news, Josh Eyre again impressed. He kicks the ball precisely over a range of distances, moves quite well and appears to have good hands. Likewise Teakle marks solidly, has an imposing frame and appears to have fitted into the group seamlessly. Bytel caught the eye a few times today, while Sullivan who blended in so well he was hard to keep track of, moved strongly and appears to have good hands in close. Interestingly, the regular players reward these guys with reassuring affirmation after they do something well. In particular Maynard bored with his stationary cycling ululates from the sidelines. On Monday he was inside the Ryder Stand; today he was positioned on the boundary line, sweating profusely in the humid conditions. At one point he told the trainer he was knacked but he had to work his way through this arduous routine. He is notably finer by dint of him being forced to eschew the weights post his shoulder operation.

The only players constrained in a major way today, were Bobby and IQ who ran laps. The former hurt is shoulder on Monday during the brutal tackling session, which was later strapped, though he was sans any medical tape for the running session. IQ appeared to feel discomfort in the glute/hammy area. It was amusing to watch Bobbly struggle to match it with super fit IQ as their running regimen wore on.


Elliott did not take part in some of the drills the aforementioned McCormack was chatting to him. He remarked that Ash was looking fit and perhaps a bit leaner and Jamie observed that Johnson had worked hard over the break.

Once Wade commanded that training proper commenced, players wound up their sporadic kicking among mates and there was some extra resistance work and running between cones. The mini-hurdles were negotiated with some emulating kangaroos as they jumped and hopped to work the leg muscles. Groups of players with arms extended like giant tentacles, or if one is Jack Dyer (testicles), while holding relatively heavy looking weights.

Following this, there was an activity I hadn't previously witnessed. All players bar the boundary runners, assembled at one end, and they had to sprint solo over the distance of forty metres while their teammates urged them on. There were certainly comments from their peers reverberating around the arena as they poured their energy into this high octane activity. Speedsters like Noble stood out, while Cox ran a bit like an awkward giraffe and Begg looked sluggish. Tew and Eyre were long striders, while the likes of Richards pumped their legs like fast rotating pistons. Nick, Moore, Jordy and Cameron who appear to be on a mildly modified program refrained from running.


It was heartening to see Dean striding out at full pace after he left the track prematurely on Monday and appeared shortly thereafter in his civvies.

There were then four different stations which players rotated through followed an activity whereby most of those in the main group sprinted between strategically placed cones, while the big guys - Begg, Cox, Teakle Steene, who appears to have taken ownership of Truscoe's old number, worked together. Harry, Tew, Nick, Moore, Cameron and Jamie trained separately at this juncture.

What was pleasing about the running activity was that both Beau and Reef again stood out in terms of showcasing improved endurance, with both maintaining their extra speed throughout. Reef was leading them as they completed their run throughs.

It was also good to see Nick offering Brayden and encouraging pat on the back as he struggled through his taxing bike pedalling.

Following a hydration break, Andy Ottens addressed the group explaining that they had to redress the errors they made during Monday's session and he held up a whiteboard which they all stared at intently.

This precipitated different activities in four stations with players rotating through each. There was some contested work, some close in handball but another drill in which players had to jump the hurdles, receive the ball and then shoot for goal from different positions. The contesting work took place adjacent to the ghost of the Rush stand, while the drill in front of the Ryder which saw half of the players sporting lime green vests appeared to have the objective of moving the ball swiftly, evading opponents and then heading forward, avoiding the circuitous route with some players calling out 'corridor'. In this drill both Kreuger and Bytel effected good one-handed pick-ups from the deck.




Selwood said that the emphasis was to be on the scenario in which the players had to win the ball back after losing it. This was connected to the turnover game to hone our skills in maximising the results from this. Several drills were performed in relation to this. Schultz certainly has some toe; he wove his way through congestion with celerity on occasions.

Lyndon Dunn surfaced at training and shook hands with Crisp who came to the fence ringing the Ryder stand. His wobbly walking appears to be the legacy of his wretched knee injuries and the toll a footy career can take.

Thereafter the players engaged in some whole ground ball movement.

They head off to Gippsland for a brief camp on Sunday.
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I could detect merely a sole malapropism, "casuality" for "casualty".
Now Annabel has me doing it! :D
 
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