Training 2024 training updates.

[Fat Jesus]

Cool. None of that makes him a remotely good permanent forward prospect though.

Agree, in stints he will be handy though all over the ground.

 

[schmiddi18]

Its really hard to tell, given the match sim is barely that given the small amount of players. But I've seen more of Hustwaite in the match sim than Bytel (who seems to be playing forward- not one of the starting mids that I could see)
Once the seniors are back on Monday, we may get a better idea

I see it as we’ll sign Hustwaite, Eyre and then what we do next is anyone’s guess.

 

[DopeMaster]

Dan only played 14 games in 2023, and whilst he was good, we still found a way to win the flag without him.

Obviously it would be better to have Dan. But with him going down so early, the coaches have plenty of time to work on strategy. Personally, I think this represents a tremendous opportunity for Johnson. He could be the big improver.

Whilst I agree Johnson has potential, I don’t really see them as like for like in playing style.

McStay big body, hit packs, brings the ball to ground etc. Johnson more the traditional 3rd tall with a leap who takes floating grabs across pack rather than splitting them.

I think Krueger is the closest like for like we have for McStay. Whilst his overhead isn’t as good, he doesn’t mind doing a kamikaze into a pack and getting ball to ground.

Given pack-marks are such a rarity these days, that’s sufficient for the gameplan to be workable.

 

[BillyElliott]

Whilst I agree Johnson has potential, I don’t really see them as like for like in playing style.

McStay big body, hit packs, brings the ball to ground etc. Johnson more the traditional 3rd tall with a leap who takes floating grabs across pack rather than splitting them.

I think Krueger is the closest like for like we have for McStay. Whilst his overhead isn’t as good, he doesn’t mind doing a kamikaze into a pack and getting ball to ground.

Given pack-marks are such a rarity these days, that’s sufficient for the gameplan to be workable.

The reality is we don't have a like for like for Dan.

Fly & the coaches will be working on other options.

Just like they successfully did for the GF.

 

[live fast pieyoung]

please keep in mind we dont have to replace dans role
mihocek will replace dans role
the question is who do we replace in mihoceks role

 

[JuniorB]

The reality is we don't have a like for like for Dan.

Fly & the coaches will be working on other options.

Just like they successfully did for the GF.

Yep. The reason we got Dan is exactly that we didn't have a player like him.

 

[DopeMaster]

The reality is we don't have a like for like for Dan.

Fly & the coaches will be working on other options.

Just like they successfully did for the GF.

Yes but the conversation has moved beyond that, and is now working out who’s best placed stylistically to play that role.

 

[BillyElliott]

Yes but the conversation has moved beyond that, and is now working out who’s best placed stylistically to play that role.

It's still the same conversation. Lol.

We still don't even know who else we may be looking at for more SSP's to trial post Xmas.

The only thing we know for certain is that we currently don't have anyone on our current list who can play like Dan. I wouldn't trust Krueger to get through a half of footy uninjured.

 

[dalkin47]

Good things do come from adversity and while it is tragic ( in a sporting sense) that McStay has sustained a season ending injury, the opportunity to list another player and without any qualification whatsoever having the knowledge that we possess the most astute coaching panel in the AFL, I feel we can overcome this setback to be successful in '24. We won't have the services of someone in the mould of Jeremy Cameron

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, but with a mix of the best small forwards ( even better with the addition of Schultz) and tall~ish forwards, headed by Checkers and AJ, with back~up from Reef and Krueger and ???? (a currently listed player or SSP selection) augurs well for continued success.

 

[manicpie]

Don't tell me we have to bring in Liam Mcbean

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[sr36]

McStay is destined to spend the rest of his career in the odd position of being one bad game away from being a spud and one injury away from being an irreplaceable gun.

 

[schmiddi18]

Don't tell me we have to bring in Liam Mcbean

Read this as Liam McMahon, who currently is running around for Carlton’s VFL team.

 

[manicpie]

Read this as Liam McMahon, who currently is running around for Carlton’s VFL team.

Liam McBean in the SANFL

 

[manicpie]

McStay is destined to spend the rest of his career in the odd position of being one bad game away from being a spud and one injury away from being an irreplaceable gun.

Pretty good when you consider he missed half the year

 

[Vinnie Vegas]

Don't tell me we have to bring in Liam Mcbean

We could do worse. He's big enough to bring the ball to ground, and he's been kicking goals like it's going out of style in state leagues for ages.

 

[Vinnie Vegas]

I have no issue with Frampton the defender, or as the fill in ruck. He’s a crap forward though, and it’s bizarre that anyone would think otherwise based off a 0 goal, 2 disposal game where he acted as a decoy for the real forwards to do their work.

This is the exact opposite of what anyone is doing. That game should be ignored in considering him.

I get that he doesn't have a long history of being an effective key forward - That's why we picked him up off the scrap heap for basically nothing instead of paying millions for him. Do you think most teams just have a 30 goal forward they can throw into the lineup when their starting CHF goes down?

If we're going to effectively replace McStay in 2024, it's going to be on the basis of someone doing something they've never done before, regardless of who that ends up being.

Can't let a lack of existent evidence put you off trying things in pre-season, a thing that I didn't realise was so incredibly precious until you came in, clutching your pearls at the idea that we could try some things.

 

[Apex36]

This is the exact opposite of what anyone is doing. That game should be ignored in considering him.

I get that he doesn't have a long history of being an effective key forward - That's why we picked him up off the scrap heap for basically nothing instead of paying millions for him. Do you think most teams just have a 30 goal forward they can throw into the lineup when their starting CHF goes down?

If we're going to effectively replace McStay in 2024, it's going to be on the basis of someone doing something they've never done before, regardless of who that ends up being.

Can't let a lack of existent evidence put you off trying things in pre-season, a thing that I didn't realise was so incredibly precious until you came in, clutching your pearls at the idea that we could try some things.

A lack of existent evidence? Someone doing something they’ve never done before? Are we talking about the same player, because if we are then there’s 8 years of existent evidence in a forward role that he has most definitely played before.
I mean, it kind of feels like you’re ignoring the vast bulk of Billy’s career here. We have several better options that we can try over the preseason, and some of them are going to be things that we haven’t done before. Frampton shouldn’t be one of them. He is a relatively competent defender, and a break glass in the most dire emergency forward. As it stands I’d have AJ, Reef, Kreuger and even Steene ahead of him in the pecking order in terms of options to try over the preseason. Let Billy return to the defensive half of the ground where his best chance of success is and let our other forward options fight for the spot that McStay has vacated, because believe it or not, we do actually have other options.

 

[3066]

Hey Jen2310 What are the training days and times for this week?

 

[ksardog]

It’s Krueger position if he can stay fit, fingers crossed, lessens the physical work that Mihocek will have to do during the year and thats a good thing. The other role will be fought out between AJ and Reef

Hill. Krueger. Elliott
McReery. Mihocek. Schultz.

Reef as the extra option on the bench when others are resting

looks dangerous enough

 

[Jen2310]

Hey Jen2310 What are the training days and times for this week?

Mon. Wed. Friday.
Should be 9am


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[Pleasedontfail11]

Yep, that whole preseason is definitely going to be the difference maker. Just ignore his the fact that he failed in the role at two seperate clubs over the course of 8 years.

He was behind a few solid players at both Port and Adelaide for the forward/ruck position. He would have been competing with Dixon and Westoff at port and an emerging Thilthorpe at adelaide. Im not a fan of him as a forward but he is at least a competitor for the spot against players like Cox and Cameron. I personally think an inform Cameron could fill the McStay role as a crash bash bring it to ground forward, with Frampton being a solid sub option.

 

[3066]

Mon. Wed. Friday.
Should be 9am


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Thx.

And what time do they finish usuallly? i.e when are people allowed on the ground do you know?

 

[schmiddi18]

As much as I can appreciate the optimisim, not one of AJ, McInnes or Kreuger has seen a full year of action in the AFL without an injury. It'll be a task for one to step up and I guess our plan will be to rotate and fill holes.

But post-Christmas, I can almost guarantee we'll be inviting more down to train than the current lot.

 

[BillyElliott]

As much as I can appreciate the optimisim, not one of AJ, McInnes or Kreuger has seen a full year of action in the AFL without an injury. It'll be a task for one to step up and I guess our plan will be to rotate and fill holes.

But post-Christmas, I can almost guarantee we'll be inviting more down to train than the current lot.

It's already been reported we were likely to be inviting up to 2 more to trial post Xmas. (That was prior to Dan's injury)

Source : Josh Gabelich

 

[TradeDraft]

Hey Jen, which one of Hustwaite and Bytel do you think the Pies will take? Either of them impressing in match sim?

Don't really need them.

Hustwaite did not look AFL Calibar in our VFL Team