Training 2024 training updates.

[Kirby]

How much more is there to realistically review, AFL or not? That said, whatever way they lean is opening a can of worms. Not allowing him to play acknowledges concussion is a growing issue and potentially opens the door for legal hassles, allowing him to be play could be deemed negligent later and also opens the door for legal issues.

Do you know if they haven’t completed a review?

It’s a medical issue so their findings are private. We may never know.

 

[Mick F]

I often wondered if he was reported regularly at suburban level after his Pies days. That day suggested he could lose his cool easily. Do you know?

Last I heard, he was assistant coach at Heidelberg in the Northern League (formerly Diamond Valley). An aggressive forward that liked an ale - North Heidelberg, Bundoora and Heidelberg.

 

[Cousin of Daicos]

The list age is skewed by Pendles being 83. Him and Steele were running around like 21yos in the last quarter of the granny

I used to say Pendles and Steele skewed our age profile, but they really don't anymore.

We're a genuinely old team now. Arguably for the first time since the mid-late 90s?

We have a LOT of players 30 or over and right on the cusp of 30. We should be fine if we can fill in the 23-28 segment of the list. We're completely fine in the Under 23 segment.

 

[manicpie]

I often wondered if he was reported regularly at suburban level after his Pies days. That day suggested he could lose his cool easily. Do you know?

No I doubt it. This was something out of the blue. It's not his nature really, he was really good and didn't harp on it. I really don't know what happened that day and I don't think he knew why either. Shame really, because he could kick goals standing on his head. Him and Shane Hellas kicked about 200 between them one season.

 

[JuniorB]

I used to say Pendles and Steele skewed our age profile, but they really don't anymore.

We're a genuinely old team now. Arguably for the first time since the mid-late 90s?

We have a LOT of players 30 or over and right on the cusp of 30. We should be fine if we can fill in the 23-28 segment of the list. We're completely fine in the Under 23 segment.

That's another good reason to look at the SSP rather than the draft.

 

[Jen2310]

It was the walking wounded this morning.

Dean, Carmichael didn't complete the session. Dean was seen in the polo and casual clothes after the session
Hill hurt his shoulder in a drill, and had to get it strapped up. Was then running in the rehab group
Sofonidis hurt his ankle in a contest with frampton, and left the track
Eyre and Steene left briefly but both finished the session no issues

 

[BillyElliott]

It was the walking wounded this morning.

Dean, Carmichael didn't complete the session. Dean was seen in the polo and casual clothes after the session
Hill hurt his shoulder in a drill, and had to get it strapped up. Was then running in the rehab group
Sofonidis hurt his ankle in a contest with frampton, and left the track
Eyre and Steene left briefly but both finished the session no issues

Hope they're all minor.. particularly Dean

 

[Vicky Park]

It was the walking wounded this morning.

Dean, Carmichael didn't complete the session. Dean was seen in the polo and casual clothes after the session
Hill hurt his shoulder in a drill, and had to get it strapped up. Was then running in the rehab group
Sofonidis hurt his ankle in a contest with frampton, and left the track
Eyre and Steene left briefly but both finished the session no issues

 

[Abdul_The_Bull]

Any word on Murphy? I'd love to see Dean get a good run at it, particularly if Murphy is in any doubt.

 

[danielnajdek]

It was the walking wounded this morning.

Dean, Carmichael didn't complete the session. Dean was seen in the polo and casual clothes after the session
Hill hurt his shoulder in a drill, and had to get it strapped up. Was then running in the rehab group
Sofonidis hurt his ankle in a contest with frampton, and left the track
Eyre and Steene left briefly but both finished the session no issues

Vic Park seems like bad luck. Gotta get back to AIA asap.

 

[Cousin of Daicos]

It was the walking wounded this morning.

Dean, Carmichael didn't complete the session. Dean was seen in the polo and casual clothes after the session
Hill hurt his shoulder in a drill, and had to get it strapped up. Was then running in the rehab group
Sofonidis hurt his ankle in a contest with frampton, and left the track
Eyre and Steene left briefly but both finished the session no issues

Tell me Dean isn't his bloody foot

 

[Pleasedontfail11]

It was the walking wounded this morning.

Dean, Carmichael didn't complete the session. Dean was seen in the polo and casual clothes after the session
Hill hurt his shoulder in a drill, and had to get it strapped up. Was then running in the rehab group
Sofonidis hurt his ankle in a contest with frampton, and left the track
Eyre and Steene left briefly but both finished the session no issues

Fremantle give this post a triple thumbs up.

 

[Jen2310]

Any word on Murphy? I'd love to see Dean get a good run at it, particularly if Murphy is in any doubt.

Murphy looks okay, but was in the modified group

 

[danielnajdek]

Fremantle give this post a triple thumbs up.

I can imagine Freo fans punching the air every time they hear a injury rumour about one of our players.

 

[Markfs]

I can imagine Freo fans punching the air every time they hear a injury rumour about one of our players.

i went into freo this morning and there was a parade down the main drag celebrating the injury rumour....at one point, there was an annoucement about the injury rumour and everyone punched the air... it was quite emotional.

 

[Fat Jesus]

Tell me Dean isn't his bloody foot

I will be really upset for him if it is.

 

[Sea fog]

Here is a report from Facebook put up by Annabel G.

Under a desolate sky, the players were already going through their paces at 8.30 at our spiritual home – Victoria Park. Before training proper, groups of around six or seven emerged to undertake a warm-up, participate in some desultory kicking and some handball drills. My best guess regarding this variation from normal practice is that there isn’t the space to limber up that there is at the more capacious AIA centre.



The only absentees were WHE and Pendles, Howe and Sidey who have permission to attend in a way which is tailored to how their body is feeling. There were some more casualties during the session today. Carmichael who is looking fit came off worse for wear after a particularly vigorous tackling drill in which many were thrown to the carpet. He was led to the sanctuary of the rooms with possibly a shoulder, or maybe even a rib injury. Bobby also came a cropper in this drill and spent some time on the sidelines before having his shoulder strapped. Later Steene wandered off with what looked like a leg issue after the match simulation.



All the Supplementary Selection candidates were in attendance with Eyre catching the eye. He moves well and kicks the ball with precision. Both he and Teakle took some nice grabs during activities and match simulation Bytel looked strong at the contest. Tew is a smooth mover and Harry ensured he was involved when the ball was in his propinquity. His kicking looked neat and he tackled enthusiastically. His lateral movement also appears to be good as he bobbed from side to side in some of the agility-based activities wherein evasion was required to achieve the objective. Sullivan’s kicking passed muster during the drills where this was a core part of the routine.



When training started after the long whistle, with Wade clearly commanding proceedings, another protracted warm-up regimen commenced with the resistance tapes being front and centre. Players alternated between this and running between cones.



After some close-in handballing drills a pseudo beep test took place. All bar Jamie, Cameron and Moore who ran on the members side of the ground were participants. Maynard who rode a stationary bike inside the Ryder Stand also watched on. This went on for quite some time. It was soon clear that some of the taller, more weighty players began dragging their feet as fatigue set in. Checkers and Frampton found the pace hard going but last place was Hill who was lapped by the leaders. Beau was near the front with the usual suspects like Lippa, Crisp and Nick Pleasingly Ash and Reef looked much more comfortable during this arduous exercise. Eyre also demonstrated some pretty decent endurance here.



The players took a well-earned rehydration break following this and then broke into four groups, rotating between four stations over half an hour. Moore and Jamie joined in here.



The groups took part again in close-in handball drills, with more evasive work, while one group had a nominated full back and back pocket as the ‘get out of jail’ outlet before kicking to the rest who competed for marks and ground balls. Maynard loudly applauded Teakle for taking a strong mark and lent his support to others who shone in the contested situations. Shultz who looks very nuggety showed he has good hands in these drills. Reef took a spectacular mark at one point.

The ruckmen – Cox, Steene and Begg partook of some rucking tuition in front of the ghost of the R.T. Rush stand. Maynard worked incredibly hard. He was marinating in sweat by the end of the session, being spurred on by a trainer who set targets for him. He looks ripped. Macrae also appears more lean this summer.





After this the players had to navigate a robust tackling drill which they loved judging by the raucous vocal soundtrack but it did claim some as they threw each other around with gay abandon. Naturally Elliott, another shoulder victim, did not partake of this. Nick, Harry, Tew and Moore also engaged in a separate tackling activity.



The final part of the main fare was the match simulation. Frampton played forward on Moore, while most others enjoyed their customary roles. The emphasis appeared to be on ball movement with lots running to position with alacrity. Reef marked and goaled in a fluent manner and looks like he may be tried in the forward zone again, though could have some cameos in the middle. The newbies had a bit of a run here and Tew certainly looks athletic. Markov again used his speed to advantage, running to spoil and intercept a la the game-changing move against the Giants in the prelim. Allan played on a wing, while it was reassuring to see Murphy marking strongly.



Elliott, Moore and Cameron all looked very fit running on the sidelines when not involved in the activities with the rest of the group. It was interesting to note that early on, Moore was smashing them for speed, but as they tired, Elliott was prominent at the front.



On balance it was a taxing session that featured some drizzle. They were kept constantly on the move, and after sapping running would have to go and switch their emphasis to the footy skills which can only augur well in terms of simulation what is demanded of match conditions.



On the terraces the quidnuncs were reacquainted and it was pleasing to be able to converse knowing that the premiership is now safely in our vault, even though in reality it is continuing its peripatetic journey. Let’s hope the casualties turn out to be minor ailments.



After Wednesday and Friday’s sessions, they have their community camp in the Gippsland region before their break for the festive season.

 

[Sea fog]

How bad are these injuries being talked about?

 

[The Magnificent Seven]

I now have 'quidnuncs' and 'propinquity' in my vocabulary, although not quite sure what to do with them.

 

[BillyElliott]

How bad are these injuries being talked about?

It would be breaking news by now if they were serious.

In fact, I'm surprised it's not making the headlines regardless.

Strange that Annabel didn't mention Dean.

 

[sideswipe]

I now have 'quidnuncs' and 'propinquity' in my vocabulary, although not quite sure what to do with them.

quidnunc a newy for me. Think I will start greeting my mother-in-law, "Hi quidnunc!".

 

[anshell]

I now have 'quidnuncs' and 'propinquity' in my vocabulary, although not quite sure what to do with them.

Annabel is quite the wordsmith,isn’t she?She doesn’t like using simple words like area,but something more literate like propinquity,which most people don’t use these days or have never heard of.

 

[BillyElliott]

Annabel is quite the wordsmith,isn’t she?She doesn’t like using simple words like area,but something more literate like propinquity,which most people don’t use these days or have never heard of.

I think the least she can do is put the pronunciation & definition in brackets after each of these words that she knows damn well most of us have never heard of ..

 

[Eric Shin]

I thought Macrae looked a bit lean this preseason.

Maybe it's to help a bit with covering the ground, although I thought he already excelled in that.

Or maybe he's easing on putting on too much muscle too quickly, which might've had to do with his back injury last preseason.


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[loki04]

Thank you! Yes, I agree. For every Dane Swan or Josh Daicos taken at Pick 50+, you get a Sam Dwyer who's delisted fairly promptly. You have to wonder what the point of investing in those players with time and resources is if they never show much at even VFL level, particularly when they're put next to a VFL talent that looks like they could break through. Moneyball is all about tying strengths to needs when undervalued by clubs and we're doing that. Clearly for us, we're after players who are speedy and have another attribute we like. It's flag winning list management.

So long as qw don't neglect the draft in doing so.
Many gun VFL players never make the step up at AFL level.

Bit like Hine all but putting a line through any KPF in every draft for nearly a decade and a half.