List Mgmt. 2025 AFL Draft - The Final Countdown

[THE_GUN]

speed?

Not too dissimilar to Smillie & Jagga and better than Cripps , Dunley , Libba , Neal

3.17 20mtr
6.33 2klm

 

[Damo80]

speed?

He didn’t test at this years combine, and it’s hard to find any definitive data on a potential 20m sprint time… but I did find reference to an older u18 agility test where he scored better than Duursma did in the most recent combine (Sharp 8.14s in 2023 vs Duursma 8.58s in 2025). Grain of salt, I guess!

 

[Wrenny]

speed?

Good Movie

 

[Danog]

His kicking speed and position are not really a problem
* Speed looks fine without being elite but i wouldnt knock back Bont , Dunkley , Libba , Neal , Brayshaw , Cripps because of their speed

* Kicking as seen in his clip his kicking just about every time either hits his target or advantages his team mate
Penetration wouldnt be the best but still capable of kicking a goal from 50mtrs out

*Position , He has rested foward and played foward as well as HB at times but is just so dominant in the midfield that its way too hard to keep him out similar to the players mentioned above

That video is highlights. You could make a highlight video of bloody Castagna nailing kicks under 0 pressure.

 

[THE_GUN]

That video is highlights. You could make a highlight video of bloody Castagna nailing kicks under 0 pressure.

That video is exactly how he plays and probably the closest to a players normal game as you will get

 

[THE_GUN]

Good Movie

Yeah but some people just snort it

 

[Danog]

That video is exactly how he plays and probably the closest to a players normal game as you will get

Im not saying he's a shit kick under pressure for no reason. Go and actually watch a game of his.

 

[THE_GUN]

Im not saying he's a shit kick under pressure for no reason. Go and actually watch a game of his.

I have watched probably 5-6 games atleast in the last 2 years
He is a GUN

 

[cairo tiger]

He didn’t test at this years combine, and it’s hard to find any definitive data on a potential 20m sprint time… but I did find reference to an older u18 agility test where he scored better than Duursma did in the most recent combine (Sharp 8.14s in 2023 vs Duursma 8.58s in 2025). Grain of salt, I guess!

ok but oersonally dont rate dursma

 

[cairo tiger]

Good Movie

fast and furious

 

[Grrr]

Correct

Our recruiters will be looking at our teams make up in the midfield 2029 and beyond
Hopper 33 and finished
Taranto 32 and finishing up
Prestia already gone
Sonsie , Dow , Green good chance of not being on the list

With the current batch of mids on the list
Lalor , Hotton , Smillie , McAuliffe , Campbell just 5 mids all with speed (smillie exception)
Sharp just fits right in there along with Cummings more than any other 2 players rated in the top 10 of this years draft

Hopper and Taranto will be long gone by those ages, if they are playing at 33 god help us.

 

[db26]

Jack Graham won the Larke medal and slid to 53.

Was Graham the best junior in his age bracket for his last 2 years performance wise ?

 

[THE_GUN]

Hopper and Taranto will be long gone by those ages, if they are playing at 33 god help us.

Taranto will be around but Hopper i doubt will play past 31

 

[richoplzbreed]

Im gonna go early and tip Duursma will end up being in contention for one of the worst No. 1 picks ever. I personally don't rate him and think he's been way overhyped. He'll be a flop just like his brothers. This 2025 draft seriously sux arse... > 1/2 the top 10 are linked to other clubs. No way Oscar Allens compo was worth pick 2. If we dont trade I hope we bid Uwland, Annabelle, Dean and ruin a few clubs nights. Realistically I hope some teams desperate and gives us a motze for one of our early picks, so we can load up next year.

 

[4tune8]

But doesnt that also apply to outside runners and half backs ?

Just about every mock draft or supposed expert has Grlj high on the mock with Richmond taking him due to our supposed desperation for speed in our 2nd year of a rebuild

Not the top end HBF's that can be effective around stoppages as well, see NWM, Rioli and to a degree Houston.

It's a bit like an inside mid with no other string to their bow, a HBF who can only lock down a small forward can be found late and cheap, a HBF that is effective by foot, has impact around stoppages combined with speed and a good defensive mindset are highly sought after. Likewise a mid with positional versatility, speed, inside/outside capabilities are also highly sought after. A pure inside mid can be found later in the draft or traded for cheaply if that's what we need.

Hartley is on record saying that we'll assess our needs over the next 2 seasons and trade accordingly. What we don't need for the foreseeable future is too many inside mids that don't have that positional flexibility, Hopper, Taranto, McAulliffe and probably Kellaway are more than enough, too many some would say.

What we do need are the players that can be involved in both attacking transitional plays and defensive transition/intercepting and we have to recruit the best available with the picks we have. Hartley has also mentioned on a number of occasions that this is a highly compromised draft, which by extrapolation means that we don't have access to the highest rated juniors that we normally would have in a less compromised draft. Therefore, drafting for best available on a needs basis comes to the fore.

I assess our needs being outside run, excellent distributors and line breakers off half back, wingers, ruck and a medium forward. Inside mids come well down the order particularly with the likelihood of Kellaway coming on board.

 

[db26]

The 2 players with the most chance of making 200+ game players inside the top 5 open draft are
Sharp & Cummings and for the life of me cannot see why we would over look them and considering Kellaway is on the cards later in the draft then the Trifecta of the 3 x SA boys just makes so much sense

What about if we split one pick and add Phillipou to that mix , but maybe Cummings might be gone. I would take Farrow them.

 

[db26]

Im gonna go early and tip Duursma will end up being in contention for one of the worst No. 1 picks ever. I personally don't rate him and think he's been way overhyped. He'll be a flop just like his brothers. This 2025 draft seriously sux arse... > 1/2 the top 10 are linked to other clubs. No way Oscar Allens compo was worth pick 2. If we dont trade I hope we bid Uwland, Annabelle, Dean and ruin a few clubs nights. Realistically I hope some teams desperate and gives us a motze for one of our early picks, so we can load up next year.

I won't say a flop , but yes over hyped still to this day what is his position. I'm a beware of players at that age especially so early still without a definite position.

 

[THE_GUN]

Not the top end HBF's that can be effective around stoppages as well, see NWM, Rioli and to a degree Houston.

It's a bit like an inside mid with no other string to their bow, a HBF who can only lock down a small forward can be found late and cheap, a HBF that is effective by foot, has impact around stoppages combined with speed and a good defensive mindset are highly sought after. Likewise a mid with positional versatility, speed, inside/outside capabilities are also highly sought after. A pure inside mid can be found later in the draft or traded for cheaply if that's what we need.

Hartley is on record saying that we'll assess our needs over the next 2 seasons and trade accordingly. What we don't need for the foreseeable future is too many inside mids that don't have that positional flexibility, Hopper, Taranto, McAulliffe and probably Kellaway are more than enough, too many some would say.

What we do need are the players that can be involved in both attacking transitional plays and defensive transition/intercepting and we have to recruit the best available with the picks we have. Hartley has also mentioned on a number of occasions that this is a highly compromised draft, which by extrapolation means that we don't have access to the highest rated juniors that we normally would have in a less compromised draft. Therefore, drafting for best available on a needs basis comes to the fore.

I assess our needs being outside run, excellent distributors and line breakers off half back, wingers, ruck and a medium forward. Inside mids come well down the order particularly with the likelihood of Kellaway coming on board.

Thats fine and if we do decide to go that way then we open up our picks to sliding back
We cant just take best player that suits our needs with the best picks in the draft
as i mentioned in an earlier post if we are looking at players like Grlj , XT , Farrow etc then we should be open to trading back both #3 / #4 to bombers and melbourne and go strategic to fill holes and accumulate assets

But so early in a rebuild we should just take best available talent that builds our midfield depth
players like Rioli , Houli were not HBF in the juniors and most start of as mids

 

[Rubber Hips]

 

[4tune8]

Thats fine and if we do decide to go that way then we open up our picks to sliding back
We cant just take best player that suits our needs with the best picks in the draft
as i mentioned in an earlier post if we are looking at players like Grlj , XT , Farrow etc then we should be open to trading back both #3 / #4 to bombers and melbourne and go strategic to fill holes and accumulate assets

But so early in a rebuild we should just take best available talent that builds our midfield depth
players like Rioli , Houli were not HBF in the juniors and most start of as mids

Trading back one of our picks could very well happen (I hope it does) but I still think that we need to assess our needs in the midfield once we've had a good look at what we have, we really didn't get that opportunity this year.

I'm firmly of the belief that the recruiters don't see our picks as the best in the (weak) draft because it's highly compromised, what would normally have been pick 3 (our 2nd pick) could well be pick 8 (and pick 7 for our 1st) after compo and bids which then puts it in the realm of drafting the best player in a position of need.

I agree that Sharp and Cumming are the best mids available, but I don't think that we should be drafting them to increase our midfield depth. We have other positions that are in desperate need of a talent injection.

Yze, in an interview after the season ended, made comment about our drafting strategy last year, he said that we filled a lot of positional needs. I'm positive that we'll continue on that path.

 

[Danog]

Hurry the **** UP, draft day

 

[THE_GUN]

Trading back one of our picks could very well happen (I hope it does) but I still think that we need to assess our needs in the midfield once we've had a good look at what we have, we really didn't get that opportunity this year.

I'm firmly of the belief that the recruiters don't see our picks as the best in the (weak) draft because it's highly compromised, what would normally have been pick 3 (our 2nd pick) could well be pick 8 (and pick 7 for our 1st) after compo and bids which then puts it in the realm of drafting the best player in a position of need.

I agree that Sharp and Cumming are the best mids available, but I don't think that we should be drafting them to increase our midfield depth. We have other positions that are in desperate need of a talent injection.

Yze, in an interview after the season ended, made comment about our drafting strategy last year, he said that we filled a lot of positional needs. I'm positive that we'll continue on that path.

As you mentioned our picks could be picks #7 + #8
And at these picks then Sharp , Robey , Cummings should be the highest rated players and coincidentally are needs for Richmond along with outside run. Who knows where our clubs rate these players

but they may rate Cummings , Farrow , Grlj , Lindsay around the same range and consider trading a pick with the knowledge 1 is still available at the later selection which is fine.

But for me i would just take 2 of Robey / Cummings / Sharp and sure up our midfield

 

[Profop]

I like McAulliffe but there’s literally zero shown so far to suggest we should be so happy with him that drafting pure mids isn’t required

 

[4tune8]

I like McAulliffe but there’s literally zero shown so far to suggest we should be so happy with him that drafting pure mids isn’t required

He's literally shown zero because he literally hasn't played. 9 games in his 1st year and only 5 this season. I was impressed with the small sample size we got this year and hopefully a full preseason will afford him a proper crack at it next year which will give us a much better understanding of how he fits and performs within the structure.

 

[Punt Road Feral]

He's literally shown zero because he literally hasn't played. 9 games in his 1st year and only 5 this season. I was impressed with the small sample size we got this year and hopefully a full preseason will afford him a proper crack at it next year which will give us a much better understanding of how he fits and performs within the structure.

I think we’re all on the same page with that but we can’t bank on him making it just yet.