Live Event 2025 Brownlow Medal [ Murphy Reid Rising Star 🎖️ ]

[malpaso]

Shai Bolton didn’t poll a vote.

I like him but for someone who is paid what he is and was suppose to be the cream and a match winner? Well, so far that hasn’t worked out.

Needs to rip a few games apart. 25 touches, 3 goals type games.

I don't give a rats ass about Brownlow votes. The club is not paying for that.

 

[malpaso]

Great to see our highlights during the year, reminded me of the "leap" we made. BIG things are coming! Well done Bruce.

 

[freo_leo29]

It's not such a scandal when you get a 2 votes instead of 3 votes in the NWM case in the St Kilda vs Melbourne. I didn't watch the game, so have to guess the 4 umpires thought it was a 3/4 vs 1/4 thing where Melbourne were up by 7 goals at 3/4 time.

4 goals though, even if two were at the final siren, they were matchwinners.

It was probably the best individual game this decade

It had to be 3 votes, simply had to

 

[malpaso]

Umpires have no place handing out votes. They actually have other things to do during a game.

Most farcical award ever, I'm not sure of any professional league where umpires/referees award a sport's "highest" award.

 

[stax on the mull]

It was probably the best individual game this decade

It had to be 3 votes, simply had to

Melbourne social media trolling the umps is a telling sign. I'll report back if I find an opinion less emphatic on the St Kilda board.

 

[FreoRicci]

I just love the annual Daicos melts.
What’s that? 3 seasons in a row?

 

[largebus]

The leaderboard here shows how concentrated the votes have become in a few players, which is why you had Ben Cousins winning with 20 votes in 2005 and that won't make the top 10 these days.

 

[Taylor]

Bontempelli with 25 votes from 17 full games is very impressive, he's a quality of player far and above many in his team such that he stands out so much.

Dogs were 12-6 with him playing, 2-3 without him.

He's one I feel might never win a Brownlow medal and won't be remembered as fondly for it, but he's an absolute gun.

It might take the Dogs finishing bottom four with Bontempelli playing every game for him to win one.

 

[purplerunsdeep2]

Jackson with 17 is pretty impressive from a 'ruck'. Will increase with more on ball time if he gets his wish to be a big body mid

 

[freo84]

The issue is you have part time employees responsible for voting on arguably the most prestigious award in the AFL.

 

[pK75]

Brayshaw won’t poll that high again, Young and Reid will start stealing votes more regularly next year.

 

[Docker82]

Umpires have no place handing out votes. They actually have other things to do during a game.

Most farcical award ever, I'm not sure of any professional league where umpires/referees award a sport's "highest" award.

Think the award has it's place tbh. That place is not the most prestigious individual award in footy. As you say umpires have other things to do.

The award voted by the coaches is a far better representation of who the best players were on any given day. Actually brings non-midfielders into the votes too.

The coaches, media and players are the ones actually paid to win or know how to win football matches. Think media might be too bias and there's too many players to give out votes. Coaches clearly work best on a game by game basis.

 

[dropbear101]

i'm gonna spend the year trolling the collingwood fans with the simple comment: rowell> daicos.

 

[Taylor]

Coaches clearly work best on a game by game basis.

If they aren't voting on their own players, ever. If the opposition coach gives the 5,4,3,2,1 for the team then it will work.

You'd have 46 votes for Nick Daicos purely from his coach awarding him 5 votes a game for two brownlow votes every week.

It happened in 2015 with Hannebery.

 

[wakojako]

The way our boys polled last night should be confirmation to the doubters that we have a good midfield. Add in a fully fit Young, Ras and Johnson and it will only get better. Just need to improve the HB position and add a small forward.

 

[Outshined]

The way our boys polled last night should be confirmation to the doubters that we have a good midfield. Add in a fully fit Young, Ras and Johnson and it will only get better. Just need to improve the HB position and add a small forward.

It's a good midfield but there are shortcomings, even with Young hopefully playing more than a handful of games. Erasmus and/or Johnson taking a step up is pretty important now, as is Jackson improving his midfield craft.

We've all made the point ad nauseum but that's because it's valid, our two major consistent ball winners are brilliant but undersized. They're liable to being put on the back foot by bigger contested mids (Hewett's first half, Rowell in the EF). We need more depth and a bit more even contribution across the board rather than relying on Brayshaw and Serong to fix it themselves.

 

[malpaso]

Did Rowell poll in the Rising Star this year?

 

[DQ 4EVER]

Can we **** Goyder off already?

Iodised salt would've been helpful

 

[Nodgey]

Devils advocate, but the Brownlow is an award for the Fairest and best. Maybe there are things going on onfield that us mug punters can't see through the TV or even at the ground? Little things that stay in the mind of the umpires?

That ump who gave Greg Williams zero votes for a great game stats-wise was recently interviewed and he mentioned this saying he had zero regrets. (Gavin Wanganeen won with 18 votes to Diesel's 17, for the youngsters around here.)

 

[DeadEyeJye]

The unpredictability of the votes in comparison to the actual stats is what makes the betting market so strong so the AFL will have zero interest in changing who votes.....

 

[s_wd6]

Rare air​

Gary Ablett Jr never did it. Neither did Chris Judd or Dustin Martin. Until Monday night, only one man had polled 24+ votes in three consecutive seasons: Dane Swan

Dane Swan

Age

41

Ht

185cm

Wt

93kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

26.9

5star

K

16.4

5star

HB

10.4

5star

M

5.9

5star

T

3.1

5star

CL

5.4

5star

No current season stats available

D

12.0

3star

K

7.0

3star

HB

5.0

4star

M

3.0

3star

T

1.0

3star

(who actually did it for four straight seasons between 2010 and 2013). Caleb Serong

3

Caleb Serong

Age

24

Ht

180cm

Wt

87kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.0

3star

K

7.0

3star

HB

6.0

4star

M

1.8

2star

T

3.6

5star

CL

2.6

4star

D

13.0

3star

K

7.0

3star

HB

6.0

3star

M

1.8

2star

T

3.6

4star

CL

2.6

4star

D

13.0

4star

K

7.0

3star

HB

6.0

4star

M

1.8

2star

T

3.6

5star

CL

2.6

5star

and Nick Daicos have now joined the Collingwood great with a hat-trick of 24-plus campaigns, with Serong displaying remarkable consistency to poll 24, 28 and now 25 across his past three years.

 

[DockerDerek]

Who else do you want voting on the Brownlow if not umpires?

The very unbiased (Melbourne) media?

I know, a council of elders from Bigfooty!

 

[pK75]

Rare air​

Gary Ablett Jr never did it. Neither did Chris Judd or Dustin Martin. Until Monday night, only one man had polled 24+ votes in three consecutive seasons: Dane Swan (who actually did it for four straight seasons between 2010 and 2013). Caleb Serong and Nick Daicos have now joined the Collingwood great with a hat-trick of 24-plus campaigns, with Serong displaying remarkable consistency to poll 24, 28 and now 25 across his past three years.

Comparing total votes for players who now play 23 games a year vs those who only played 22 games per year seems somewhat flawed to me.

 

[s_wd6]

Comparing total votes for players who now play 23 games a year vs those who only played 22 games per year seems somewhat flawed to me.

 

[malpaso]

Who else do you want voting on the Brownlow if not umpires?

The very unbiased (Melbourne) media?

I know, a council of elders from Bigfooty!

It's a mix. Sports Journos, Ex-Coaches, Ex-Players, etc.. People who understand and watch the games! Not people that are in the midst of it doing another job..