List Mgmt. 2025 List Management Discussion - Part IV

[Hubnester]

2025 List Management Discussion - Part 4

Now that our season is over, and news is starting to break - it's time for a fresh thread.

This thread is to discuss all things list management - trades, draft, free agency, delistings and more.
As we are now officially in our off-season, we'll be wanting to keep this thread more strictly on-topic than the previous iterations.
Be respectful. You are allowed to disagree with someone - but play the ball, not the man. Repeat offenders will have their posting rights revoked.

Thanks to Lore once again for this incredibly useful spreadsheet.

2025 KEY DATES
Free Agency Period: Friday, October 3rd - Friday, October 10th
Trade Period: Monday, October 6th - Wednesday, October 15th
AFL Draft: Wednesday, November 19th - Thursday, November 20th

See Also:
2025 Year in Review Rumours & Confirmed Movements 2025 Draft Discussion
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[SaintsofSteel]

Rowan asked for a trade during his exit interview.

Ross actually shut him down multiple times. Told him he can explore Geelong but we will see you day 1 of pre season. To atleast give next year a crack.

So it’s been made clear he IS wanted - spitting the dummy out because it’s not the role he wanted is disappointing.

Whereas Steele admits he will look because of the situation but wants to stay.

That's very disappointing and fair enough. I can't believe he has been so petulant, it's not like he wouldn't be playing.

What have Geelong offered him, perhaps he is getting a few extra $$$ or other sweeteners on what we would have been paying?

 

[snails13]

Was it Andrew Mackie

Andrew Mackie

Age

41

Ht

193cm

Wt

82kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

19.2

5star

K

12.6

5star

HB

6.6

4star

M

5.7

5star

T

2.1

4star

MG

346.7

5star

No current season stats available

D

9.0

3star

K

6.2

3star

HB

2.8

3star

M

2.6

3star

T

2.2

4star

that held up all the trades in the last hour of last seasons trade and then 4 or 5 deals got done in the last couple of minutes

 

[BrutThough]

I want Ro the person at the club, but Ro the footballer has done more harm than good in the ruck since he took the number one job.

That's an extremely dramatic statement

 

[stavro#4]

That's very disappointing and fair enough. I can't believe he has been so petulant, it's not like he wouldn't be playing.

What have Geelong offered him, perhaps he is getting a few extra $$$ or other sweeteners on what we would have been paying?

The role he wants. No idea on coin.

 

[Sir Owens]

Wish Marshall all the best at the cats. That's a great opportunity for him.

Sad to see him go but it's the right call. Hopefully it will help us retain Dodson long-term.

 

[Diehard Saint]

Ro has nominated a club.

Prepare to be disappointed with whatever deal we get for him.

That's footy.

That’s nonsense. He’s contracted, probably been front-loaded and we can refuse.
Jack Steven and many other players refused trades can attest to this.

 

[LongParker]

The irony of trading Steele to the Blues, for there pick 19 combo for JSOS. Won't happen. But imagine!

 

[#1_pigeonracer]

Keep Moose. In Moose we trust.

A moose is a creature of mystery and wonder, a symbol of untamed beauty.

J. Muir

To catch a glimpse of a moose in its natural habitat is to witness a fleeting moment of pure magic, a connection to the wild that stays with you forever.

D. Chadwick.

 

[stavro#4]

Anyway.

I know nothing concrete.

But on Monday I heard a rumour we could be keen on Ben Ainsworth

12

Ben Ainsworth

Age

27

Ht

178cm

Wt

77kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.1

4star

K

8.1

3star

HB

6.1

4star

M

3.5

4star

T

2.7

4star

G

0.7

4star

D

12.8

3star

K

8.3

3star

HB

4.5

3star

M

4.0

4star

T

2.3

3star

G

1.0

4star

D

13.6

4star

K

6.8

3star

HB

6.8

5star

M

3.8

4star

T

3.4

5star

G

0.6

3star

.

So I’m just keeping an eye on that

 

[John2010362340]

Brad Close and future first. And say thank you for your service.

 

[Hayes4PM]

Some sick, twisted part of me wants the deal to fall through and for Ro to come back to the club even if he's disgruntled, even if it is only for the fact I can see Geelong finally not get a player in for unders on some Cotton On, brand ambassadory type bullshit.

Like I'll take nothing and Ro not return to the club in a tantrum if it means Geelong don't get what they want hahahha

 

[Sainter93]

No more clearance dump kicks straight to the opponent’s half backline will be nice

 

[Premium]

Marshall requests a trade and look at all the tin foil hat wearers wet the beds. Geelong need to stump up overs for Marshall or we hold him to his contract. Simple

what is he worth - top 10 draft pick ?

 

[Saints4ever]

Marshall to the Cats.
Flanders to the Saints.
Cats 1st rounder to the suns and we keep pick 7.

Would the Suns accept this?

Buttler as a sweetener if not or is that too much?

 

[Saintos The ITK]

I’m sure they will.

But I’m resigned to him going. I think the club has aswell considering he wasn’t part of their long term plans 2 weeks ago.

I just know Ross really wanted him to give it a crack for a season.

We can still make him do that.
Rtb probably feels Doddy is a better option. Personally I’d be happy for Muzza and Doddy to split it betwwwn them.
Or ….. Hammer may have just got a bit of a reprieve.

 

[Saints4ever]

No more clearance dump kicks straight to the opponent’s half backline will be nice

TDK has a habit of doing this also.

TDK is an upgrade though so lets see how it plays out

 

[Armoooo]

Anyway.

I know nothing concrete.

But on Monday I heard a rumour we could be keen on Ben Ainsworth.

So I’m just keeping an eye on that

Is he any good?

I feel like he's been around for ages and I've literally never noticed him. Him and Fiorini are two blokes that have always just been a name on a teamsheet to me.

 

[SaintersUnite]

Alright fine I’ll be the one to bring it up and ask. Didn’t Tony state Ro was going nowhere? Is this the first ever time he’s been wrong??

Unless we hold Ro to his contract which would be hilarious.

 

[stavro#4]

Marshall to the Cats.
Flanders to the Saints.
Cats 1st rounder to the suns and we keep pick 7.

Would the Suns accept this?

Buttler as a sweetener if not or is that too much?

Nah.
Tell Geelong we want say Carlton’s pick (TDK compo) and we can give pick 7 and slide back 2 spots

 

[_Maximus_12]

That's an extremely dramatic statement

Yes I am having a moment and that was a stretch

 

[Premium]

Some sick, twisted part of me wants the deal to fall through and for Ro to come back to the club even if he's disgruntled, even if it is only for the fact I can see Geelong finally not get a player in for unders on some Cotton On, brand ambassadory type bullshit.

Like I'll take nothing and Ro not return to the club in a tantrum if it means Geelong don't get what they want hahahha

Being contracted he can only go if the Saints let him - if he was to go I expect something good back in return

 

[Saints4ever]

Nah.
Tell Geelong we want say Carlton’s pick (TDK compo) and we can give pick 7 and slide back 2 spots

How do Geelong get Carltons pick?

Some kind of deal involving Curnow?

 

[jwikked]

Alright fine I’ll be the one to bring it up and ask. Didn’t Tony state Ro was going nowhere? Is this the first ever time he’s been wrong??

Unless we hold Ro to his contract which would be hilarious.

It's not really hard to see players changing their minds as more information and more meetings occur. Doesn't really mean much what anyone said, 3 weeks ago Marshall probably expected to stay.

 

[The_Steadier]

No more clearance dump kicks straight to the opponent’s half backline will be nice

Hate to disappoint- but TDK loves plenty of that too.

However TDK is 4 years younger than roma and CAN jump and win a hitout.
So I'm sure TDK will have those dump kicks beaten out of him by rtb.

 

[11men1cup]

Bring him home