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List Mgmt. 2025 List Management Discussion
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Does that mean they will take the other picks off us?
Leaving us with only 3 to take to the draft?
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ZoBlitz
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Nah, it's already confirmed that we'll have the option of five live picks in the draft by Callum Twomey (we might not take them all). The rookie upgrades he lists happened prior to the final draft order.
We're going into the draft with 33 players on our primary list, following the rookie upgrades. As final primary list totals can vary between 36-38 depending on how many rookie list spots you have, that gives us five free spots on the primary list and no free rookie list spots.
Edit: Although with having to add Ben Murphy, I assume we end using four picks at a draft and one rookie pick?
We're going into the draft with 33 players on our primary list, following the rookie upgrades. As final primary list totals can vary between 36-38 depending on how many rookie list spots you have, that gives us five free spots on the primary list and no free rookie list spots.
Edit: Although with having to add Ben Murphy, I assume we end using four picks at a draft and one rookie pick?
No.
Rookie upgrades are completed after the National Draft, just not listed by the AFL.
We will take 5 picks to the draft, with the final 2 picks, after they have been used for points, committed to rookie upgrades.
Numpty question I know, but is there a minimum number of picks clubs must take to the draft?
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I have been trying to work out where we might get additional points from in trades. Do we think that the Bombers might want to trade up to one of the Carlton early picks? If so, they might be interested in a swap with us- 27 (533) and 30 (454) (total of 987) for 17 (879). That would give the Bombers 17 and 21 (1675) to trade with Carlton for one of 9 (probably) or 11. The Suns 15 doesn't work. They'd have to use 21 and 30 giving the Suns an extra 200 points. And 15 and 27 (1506) are less attractive to Carlton I would have thought. The Suns 18 is not (quite) as valuable our 17. Nets us 100 points, nets Carlton 300, gives the Bombers a third top 10 pick. Struggling to find trades for us to up the points.
Jeez this is confusing - thankfully you understand this stuff Briztoon!
donkeypuncher69
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whats the latests with cal archchee?
Which bit? That a 33 year old, 231 gamer, two-time premiership players can be on the rookie list?
Uncontracted player. Free to nominate for the national or preseason draft on the financial terms he wants.
No. That we didn't nominate the two players on our Cat B rookie list to upgrade.Which bit? That a 33 year old, 231 gamer, two-time premiership players can be on the rookie list?
Twomey did say rookie list to primary list. So, we could still move Brain and/or Reville to the Cat A list
ZoBlitz
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Nah, they don't allocate picks for rookie upgrades any more (last time that happened was 2013) and the list spots needed for the rookie upgrades aren't included as draft picks in the final draft order as the upgrades are done prior to the draft.
For example last year Melbourne went to the draft with three live picks (5, 9, 79) as well as moving two rookies to the primary list prior to the draft. They ended up using all three picks at the draft and didn't have to use any of the picks for their rookie upgrades.
Jeezus that does it - I am completely confused now!
I’m not sure that is correct, because I remember Gil in his predraft ramble actual say that rookie upgrades will occur after the draft, but won’t be listed on the night.
And if they didn’t allocate picks for rookie upgrades, then we would only have three picks to take in to this years draft.
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ZoBlitz
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That being the case, can you explain what happened with Melbourne last year? I did check the final draft order.
Also if you take into consideration the upgrades we've made, we'd have 33 players on the senior list which would allow five picks in the draft as we'll have two less rookie players. The senior list numbers can be between 36-38 depending on whether you have 4-6 category A rookies. Just the final total has to be the same.
And I guess since we don't officially sign Murphy until the rookie, that counts as a spare senior spot as well.
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My bad on that. It was a quick google search at work.
Honestly I don't have an answer other than watching Gils speech at the beginning of the draft, mentioning rookie upgrades, and that if upgrades were allocated before the draft, we'd be losing our last two current picks before the draft this year.
