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That is all over the calendar.
SainterinSydney
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If you were Nas' manager, what would you be telling your client right now knowing the situation? You've got a cashed up Saints and the pull back to SA where both SA teams will do whatever is required to get him over the line. Let's not forget the media pressure and storm surrounding it at the moment.
You'd be telling your client there is no benefit in running to sign on the dotted line and better to keep playing really well and keep St Kilda hanging with the massive cap.
You'd be telling your client there is no benefit in running to sign on the dotted line and better to keep playing really well and keep St Kilda hanging with the massive cap.
Joff - I believe there is a bit more to it than just the moula - i think his family are saints fans so believe it is both the money AND the opportunity as far as I know. Don't think he would pull on a saints jumper and just go through the motions..too good a player and he would want it to be a success.
But if he leaves we can’t control his decision to nominate a particular club or both clubs.
We can only do the best we can. Competition would assist in negotiating any future trade.
It’s all speculation of course. He could re-sign with us today. I’m sure we are firing in our best offer to convince the lad that we offer the best environment for BOTH his football and his life.
Going back to Adelaide will not necessarily provide the quality of life the lad craves. He will be living in a fishbowl. The media in Adelaide are a shit show.
But we can only control what we can control.
I must admit I’m sick of the speculation and am starting to wonder why NWM hasn’t re-signed with us if he wants to stay. But it’s his decision and his life. He is entitled to take his time.
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I don't disagree with any of that and am not mad at NWM or likely to be.
But if he leaves, the system will work against us getting fair value. The Crows and Power can't trade a player back against their will. Neither have a draft pick this year commensurate with NWM's on field value, and any future pick would likely be lower due to NWM's presence at that club. All the leverage is with the parties not named St Kilda if NWM decides to leave. We would be forced to take unders and go backwards as a consequence.
It is why we must continue to be loud and public about the structural issues with the system, because they are unarguably a contributing factor to our lack of success.
SainterinSydney
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We should get in Butters ear. If Butters' says yeh I could go to the Saints, then I reckon that will be the deal.
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Some said it would be Tuesday. However as others have noticed it's now Wednesday, maybe not this Tuesday.
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No chance he comes here. It'll either be the Dogs or Geelong.
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It always seemed a strange move to recruit both on that money
Let's not forget that in 1913 we actually defeated the Lions in the Prelim only for them to challenge us to a rematch!
Where was that in 04 and 05?
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All you need to ask yourself is:
If the money was the EXACT same at both clubs. Would he be leaving?
The answer is no.
There is a substantial difference in guaranteed money and it’s big enough to make this move happen.
These guys have limited careers. It’s absolutely a risk to turn down the rumoured money on offer.
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I am not winding anybody up. It takes half a million dollars a year for 7 years for us to get him.
Try offering 1.3 compared to Carltons 1.2 and see if it works for you.
Absolutely hilarious to say well he supported the Saints and Riewoldt is back like he is a 12 y.o fanboi.
He is coming for no other reason but the huge overpay.
And this is no reflection on TDK, Carlton or the Saints.
TDK, would be foolish to turn down life changing money considering he could do a career finishing injury at any time.
Carlton, basically can't afford to match, and Swan is looking to salary dump someone like Walsh as they have stuffed their SC.
Saints, as has been pointed out before, because of the constraints of the AFL, not attracting big stars etc, has to offer outrageous money to a very good but not great ruckman.
Make no mistake, TDK is more than required to play to his absolute best. And he will, he is a professional footballer, you take the big $$$, you perform.
I also expect he will settle into a very good football environment at the Saints and will en up loving the place. The Saints have improved off field dramatically.
But to convince yourself he will come to the Saints for reasons other than the money is a bit laughable to be frank.
We tried two years ago when he was a reserve player for Carlton and he wasn't interested.
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All of Goddard's family were massive Carlton supporters, he has never been near the place.
If he was so keen on the Saints he would have come two years ago.
He won't dial it in, he will get around his team and team-mates and will end up loving the club as it is now well run.
However we have had to overpay and still apparently he was wavering. Can't blame him, has played at Carlton his whole career and probably loves the place.
People think I am knocking the Saints by saying he is only coming for the money.
Could not be further from the truth. We are a well run club, severely hamstrung by the corruption of the AFL. We can't rebuild through the draft because of FS,and NGA corruption, we can't attract a grade recruits because we get shit timeslots and draws and never get a blockbuster while others less successful in the past 20 years get two or three a year.
We have one avenue and that is saving on the SC. We have done that brilliantly and now can offer huge money for a player who could be a star. The choice is debatable although the club targetted this player two years ago.
The player in my view will come for money only. But that's the start, he will settle, fit in, grow with the list and become a Saint.
Do you think a bit of hubris maybe? The hok ball stuff, theoretically media blowing smoke up Mitchell's arse about how great he was at luring players etc?
I thought it was curious to get both Battle and Barris.
You can get on a high, just pipped in a PF, two backline recruits would look like the topping required.
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TONY74 saying on SS that Ro and Nas will stay!
Ok, close the thread.
99% of what has been said in the media is all piss and wind.
The way Nas has spoken, particularly when he got bailed up at the airport leads me to believe he's staying. He's made it really clear he's happy at the Saints, and wants to be part of building something special here. It's been a different way of phrasing things to the likes of whippy battle etc. I could be wrong... I don't have any magical inside knowledge fairy dust that I wish to state as fact. Just logic and reading what has been presented.
Of course he wants more money. At some stage though, it's time to bite the bullet.
There's only two things that worry me. 1. How embarrassing losses to the likes of West Coast shake his belief, and 2. He hates me.... which I've put down to the fact that my girlfriend is so hot and I own so many guitars.
The way Nas has spoken, particularly when he got bailed up at the airport leads me to believe he's staying. He's made it really clear he's happy at the Saints, and wants to be part of building something special here. It's been a different way of phrasing things to the likes of whippy battle etc. I could be wrong... I don't have any magical inside knowledge fairy dust that I wish to state as fact. Just logic and reading what has been presented.
Of course he wants more money. At some stage though, it's time to bite the bullet.
There's only two things that worry me. 1. How embarrassing losses to the likes of West Coast shake his belief, and 2. He hates me.... which I've put down to the fact that my girlfriend is so hot and I own so many guitars.
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If we throw stupid money at him, he may consider. Cats cant just get everybody, and are the Dogs really that much different to us?
Yes they have a better list, but they continue to waste it, they also play in front of crap crowds.
If he wants the big club vibe, then his options are Pies, Carlton, Richmond, Essendon or Hawks. Carlton and Bombers are cooked. Richmond will take another 3+ years, and Pies wont be able to pay heaps, and have SFA draft capital.
I wouldn't put us as a front runner but if we lose NAS, and throw 1.5m a year at him surely he considers that.
I think we keep NAS anyway, but we are not NO chance of getting Butters.
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They still need a gun tall forward, and probably 1 more elite mid off being a real contender IMO.
That'll do it !!!
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If Nas were to nominate the Crows, what do we even get from them?
Soligo? Worrell? Charlie Edwards + a F1st?
Port seem to have more currency with Bergman and obvious option to come to the Saints, but yeah... Slim pickings ATM...
Soligo? Worrell? Charlie Edwards + a F1st?
Port seem to have more currency with Bergman and obvious option to come to the Saints, but yeah... Slim pickings ATM...
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