List Mgmt. 2025 List Management II 📃

[Aphrodite]

 

[GT619]

We need to have faith in the CEO and the coach. For way too long, as a club, we've allowed the players and the coteries control the club. I have faith that Wright will crack the whip and put the coteries in their place and get the players under control.

I hate to say this, but JSOS's attitude is emblematic of the issues the club has with the players. "I felt unloved by the club"... WTAF does that mean? The supporter base loved you because of your surname. The club wouldn't give you what you thought you were worth? FFS grow up you ****ing prat. You're a professional sportsperson... not a son/father/daughter/mother to the supporter base. If you want love, go see your dad. He wouldn't even show up for your 100th game celebration where you got your name on the locker below his and your grandfather. The supporters and the club gave you more love than your father did.

Some of our players would run through brick walls to play. Doc was a great example... after 2 bouts of cancer, and 3 ACL injuries... he still got up and came in to play. TDK, this year, couldn't run through a piece of tissue paper for the club. I can sort of understand him, 1.7 million is a big ****ing deal. But still, show some spirit next year sunshine or the Aint's supporters will realise what we did this year. You're there for the money.

We need to support Voss and the CEO... because if we keep letting the tail wag the dog, we won't have a dog in the game any more.

the place needed a shake up I think Wright has got it underway. he's trying to get the club back. reset the culture, like a reboot. if davies is our new hof be interesting to see his input from afar

 

[gab213]

I know TDK has been gone most of the year, and we will speculate and pick apart the the other two and find ways to lay the blame on the individual...but this club. This ****ing derelict, aimless, clueless, spineless, sham of a club.

Why are you still 'supporting' the club if this is how you feel? Go and meditate or something, you need to chill out.

 

[gab213]

THe players don't believe in Voss and the club didn't sack him after the worst year imagineable. The player do not believe we are going anywhere. This decision to retain Voss is going to set the club back yet another 5 years.

Nonsense. The Club, for once, did the right thing when faced with outside noise. It's well past time for the tail to stop wagging the dog at Carlton. If players are 'unhappy', they can go. We only need players who are fully committed. Starting with Voss's confirmation, I'm pretty excited to see what the club is doing. It will be to our benefit. I can't wait to see how things develop next season.

 

[The Blue Weirdo]

Nonsense. The Club, for once, did the right thing when faced with outside noise. It's well past time for the tail to stop wagging the dog at Carlton. If players are 'unhappy', they can go. We only need players who are fully committed. Starting with Voss's reappointment, I'm pretty excited to see what the club is doing. It will be to our benefit. I can't wait to see how things develop next season.

You want Voss to be reappointed/extended NOW????

I think he needs to show his face considering the volcanic unrest currently happening.

 

[Jacks Seething Rage]

Why are you still 'supporting' the club if this is how you feel? Go and meditate or something, you need to chill out.

My support of the club isn't yours to question.

But FWIW supporting the club and blindly accepting incompetence don't need to go hand in hand.

 

[gab213]

My support of the club isn't yours to question.

But FWIW supporting the club and blindly accepting incompetence don't need to go hand in hand.

I'm just pointing out that language isn't the language of a supporter, sorry, it just isn't. I don't 'blindly' accept anything. I've said before there have obviously been issues at the club, but what I'm seeing now are the most positive signs I've seen in a while.

 

[gab213]

You want Voss to be reappointed/extended NOW????

I think he needs to show his face considering the volcanic unrest currently happening.

I'm sorry, I meant his tenure for 2026 is confirmed, not suggesting he be reappointed at this stage

 

[4flagsin5yrs]

I'm sorry, I meant his tenure for 2026 is confirmed, not suggesting he be reappointed at this stage

No, it is not "confirmed".

If the season starts poorly ie another weak, soft loss to the Tigers, he'll be gone within weeks.

 

[Red Bull]

I'm sorry, I meant his tenure for 2026 is confirmed, not suggesting he be reappointed at this stage

Tactical

 

[Jacks Seething Rage]

I'm just pointing out that language isn't the language of a supporter, sorry, it just isn't. I don't 'blindly' accept anything. I've said before there have obviously been issues at the club, but what I'm senow are the most positive signs I've seen in a while.

I'll support my club how I choose to.

I don't have to blindly follow incompetence.

 

[gab213]

I'll support my club how I choose to.

I don't have to blindly follow incompetence.

Do as you please, obviously, blindly following incompetence isn't the opposite of what you're doing, you can be critical without using the language you did.

 

[Jacks Seething Rage]

Do as you please, obviously, blindly following incompetence isn't the opposite of what you're doing, you can be critical without using the language you did.

Stand by every one of them.

 

[gab213]

Stand by every one of them.

That's fine, and I'll stand by my opinion that what you posted is the most disgusting anti-Carlton diatribe that I can remember reading on this board in 12 years.

 

[Jacks Seething Rage]

That's fine, and I'll stand by my opinion that what you posted is the most disgusting anti-Carlton diatribe that I can remember reading on this board in 12 years.

You only been here 12?

Casual.

 

[Pixelshooter]

No, it is not "confirmed".

Of course he's confirmed...in every sense of the word.

He's our current coach. He's contracted until the end of the 2026 season.

Confirmed.

Of course the club has the right to sack him at any time...as all clubs do at all times.

 

[gab213]

No, it is not "confirmed".

If the season starts poorly ie another weak, soft loss to the Tigers, he'll be gone within weeks.

He's the coach for 2026, regardless of what happens that could change that during the seaon. I'm willing, though, to bet that he's there for the full year and that we'll have a better start to the year.

 

[JustaBattler]

The three players who could have most improved our on field fortunes in 2026 - Tom De Koning, Jack Silvagni and Elijah Hollands.

De Koning as a maturing ruck entering his prime, Silvagni as the smart, competitive CHB to work in tandem with Weltering, and Holland with his damaging use and decision making on the decades old black hole that is our HF line.

Not our best players...but best placed to build on the strengths and weaknesses we have as a team.

I know TDK has been gone most of the year, and we will speculate and pick apart the the other two and find ways to lay the blame on the individual...but this club. This ****ing derelict, aimless, clueless, spineless, sham of a club.

Every time I think we've bottomed out Tim the Demtel guy stirs from deep in my hippocampus to proclaim, but wait there's more.

1. E Hollands hasnt played ALL YEAR - who is that on Voss- and the inside story is that the PLAYERS banned him
2. TDK was gone as soon as the Aints decided to pay him 2X overs - did you want the Club to match ?
3. Silvagni is your AA CHB after a few dead rubber games is he - how much do you want the Cub to pay for his royal services? Which players on the list do you want Silvagni to steal from?

Im interested in the future and silvagni isn't part of it neither is the bloke with blondie hair that won a lottery - all for the silvagni hates Carlton circus gongon down at Frankston.

 

[Pablito]

He's been at the Eagles for 7 years. They weren't rubbish in his first 4 years ... he has shown nothing. I'd only trade him in for the half time sprint, not football.

Thank you for proving my point. So when they were actually decent:

-First year plays 2 games.
-Second year as a 20 year old in a good team still, averages are goal a game and 2 tackles a game.
-Third year plays 6 games - major hamstring tear throughout the year.
-Fourth year - 17 games, 16 goals.

From then on out WC dont win more than 2 games a season.

He's shown plenty more than most small forwards on our list. Instant upgrade on White, Durdin, Fogarty.

Also becomes just about the fastest player on our list which the club has noted as a priority.

He's shown plenty, you just weren't watching.

 

[charred_fate]

Wonder if we could do some back room dealing with the Saints (or Pies, Dogs etc) - take a salary dump (not sure who, if anyone, is available for this) for them to bump their offer up for JSOS to net us a first round compensation pick. Perhaps a sneaky agreement not to bid on H Dean too, though it gives us much more flexibility to work around the H Dean issue regardless - trading up/trading out etc. Win-win. It feels we’re in a position to do this so I can’t see why we wouldn’t.

If the figures reported are accurate, it won’t require much more of an increase for Jack.

 

[Moon]

Charlie is a freak when he's fit and firing, and I’d genuinely love for him to stay. But if it came down to choosing between him and McKay, I’d honestly let Charlie go.

Again, I’d love to keep Charlie. But if the right offer comes in, I’d thank him for everything and back McKay to continue leading our forward line.

Must admit ... I too am wondering whether we would be better off without Charlie..? Scary thought.

Same as the Hawks without Buddy where all the focus was on him rather than developing other forwards as focal points and less reliant on the obvious.

As for Harry .. too Injury prone to just rely on him. We need to do what other teams have done. Have medium and smalls who can do damage and kick Goals for when the Big Boys are not out there or having a bad hair Day.

Making finals and then losing Charlie and Harry due to Injury would sink us.
We need to have that covered seeing these Guys are fragile.

ps. Maybe Charlie would be happier if we had a better forward line and mids delivered better..?
pss. How are Geelong eh ... with their forward line and they are interested in having Charlie as well.
Greedy or what?
psss. AA team ... no Carlton? Surprising ..

 

[HereComesJuddy]

Club needs to go hard at bringing in Gruzewski (although currently contracted for 2026). There is going to be a forward 50 at the Blues with his name all over it.

A Vic boy we definitely should be going after

 

[TheThunderboltKid]

It's a shambles. I've never seen this level of players wanting out.

2 players?

 

[outabounds]

Nonsense. The Club, for once, did the right thing when faced with outside noise. It's well past time for the tail to stop wagging the dog at Carlton. If players are 'unhappy', they can go. We only need players who are fully committed. Starting with Voss's confirmation, I'm pretty excited to see what the club is doing. It will be to our benefit. I can't wait to see how things develop next season.

yep, they are certainly going somewhere and its not up.

 

[Pablito]

Let's not catastrophise.
What system we play is more important than any player we lose or bring in next year.

We're also bringing back a few from injury that will help soften the blow anyway. Kemp, Jagga, Newman, Cottrell.

See Collingwood a few years back on how to bounce back.

 

[outabounds]

Let's not catastrophise.
What system we play is more important than any player we lose or bring in next year.

We're also bringing back a few from injury that will help soften the blow anyway. Kemp, Jagga, Newman, Cottrell.

See Collingwood a few years back on how to bounce back.

I admire your optimism but Our Ruckman, Centre Half Back and Key Forward all are gone or want out. We have been unable to manage an enormous talent in Holland and he is gone. I have seen absolutely nothing from Voss in 4 years to even dream that he understands a sytem suitable to modern Football.if this isnt a catastrophe, Im not sure what is. Ive followed this club through the good and the bad for 50+ years and Im disillusioned with the direction of the club. In that time we have gone from being the most feared club in the game to an actual joke.