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That the games at the end of this year are meaningless.
We were rubbish when the heat was on earlier in the year. Shown to be miles off the elite in the comp.
Both in skill and speed.
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I’m trying to look at everything through the lens of points rather than picks at this stage. Whatever we’re given will likely move a fair bit during the trade period.
In many ways, the compo picks are bonuses that we can look to get creative with. Austin knew what he was doing last year trading our first rounder out. I presume the strategy was that we knew that we’re getting a good player in Dean regardless and we’re happy for that to be our main draft piece.
TDK was always going to either sign with us on our terms, or get an offer big enough for first round compo. Probably couldn’t have foreseen our ladder position, so the compo pick has gone up, but Dean has probably exceeded expectations too, and his value has risen.
We could use the two compo picks to try and move up in the draft, with some later points back. Or we bring in a solid citizen or two along with some surplus points for matching Dean and Ison.
I don’t think we target a really big name. We’ve worked to massively reset the cap on the last two years, so I don’t think we go and squander the dividend on someone like Zac Butters, and to be honest, we’re unlikely to be that attractive as a destination right now.
By the end of next season, with Saad and Williams big dollars off the books, and another first rounder to match, and hopefully a better season, then we can chase some free agents.
We will get Cody. I don’t think that Father Son rules change next year - ludicrous to do it when there will be big compromises around Tassie being introduced as well. At worst, they remove the discount, but I reckon you’ll still be able to match.
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lukep_86
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Is there any explanation on what that would look like? Wouldn't that mean we'd need less points to get Cody? I'm sure list managers will get creative and find ways to work around it. I guess the hard part would come if teams have to pick a player in the first round and we're forced to use a pick they'd planned for a father son or academy player
Fair enough!
I agree but thought it looked much better towards the end of the year meaningless or not. The skill level wasn’t there but the mix with younger quicker options showed more promise.
With TDK and Jack leaving we actually have a few options to address this instead of just rolling up with the same same again and expecting it to change.
What they're saying is that clubs would have no ability to match players taken in the first round. Whoever drafts them gets them regardless of any father/son or academy ties.
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That would be a ridiculous "solution"...
How many sons will play like shit at junior level so they can get to their father's club in the 3rd round...
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Or leave as soon as their contract is over
Would a player just then not opt out of being drafted via the ND. It doesn't make sense that it would be as simple as that. And it would have to be grandfathered in over 3 years or so. Clubs will already have list builds in place taking into consideration father son / academy picks. There would be legal recourse readily available if it wasn't. Would want to be well thought out changes. Dillon will be out of the role in the next 12 months. He is so out if his depth is my call.
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I really can't see a drastic F/S change happening next year...
They might remove the discount, come up with a way that makes it more expensive... but removing F/S from first round...
That would be a ridiculous thing to do... can just imagine players being picked at the "end of the first round" to prevent clubs from getting them under F/S...
They might remove the discount, come up with a way that makes it more expensive... but removing F/S from first round...
That would be a ridiculous thing to do... can just imagine players being picked at the "end of the first round" to prevent clubs from getting them under F/S...
lukep_86
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Well that's a massive load of b.s! And of course it happens when we're about to benefit, but the Lions and Pies were both able get a pair of gun brothers each for next to nothing. How's the equalisation looking?
It’s massive pendulum swing from “ clubs get them for way to cheap” to “ you can’t have them at all”. If it were three or years out then ok, but with effectively no warning, that just is indicative of a very poor administration. It really is a bush league
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Or have extended time away from footy in their draft year due to whatever reason they choose
lukep_86
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This is the most frustrating part, all clubs and not just us plan for drafts literally years in advance and trade picks in or out accordingly.
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Spot on, and that goes for Alt accounts or new troll accounts from banned users like the below as well. Very opinionated for someone who's been here all of 2 weeks!
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I hope it’s not us wasting time in these discussions. We should be telling Charlie’s agent what we’d demand in a trade from Sydney/GC and make him go and do the work. If we don’t hear back from him by x date, deals off.
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Didn't JSOS have a pec injury during his junior year?
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The big issue with a sudden change to F/S picks is teenagers have spent the last few years maturing and growing up with a decent understanding that they'll land at their fathers club, Walker an obvious example.
Now inside of a year he's going to be staring at the possibility of being shipped off to the WCE? It's not really fair on them mentally in my opinion.
Seems more obvious to make changes in 4-5 years so kids are aware as they develop what the first couple of years of their career will look like.
It obviously also opens up huge potential for tampering, both from clubs and players who want the same outcome. Would Cody seriously tell WCE he's happy to come over to them? Or is he more likely to sit in his interviews and honestly say "I've only ever imagined playing for Carlton." Puts all parties in a terrible spot.
Now inside of a year he's going to be staring at the possibility of being shipped off to the WCE? It's not really fair on them mentally in my opinion.
Seems more obvious to make changes in 4-5 years so kids are aware as they develop what the first couple of years of their career will look like.
It obviously also opens up huge potential for tampering, both from clubs and players who want the same outcome. Would Cody seriously tell WCE he's happy to come over to them? Or is he more likely to sit in his interviews and honestly say "I've only ever imagined playing for Carlton." Puts all parties in a terrible spot.
If he's that keen on moving, why should we be limited to Sydney? GC is where the money & picks are.
Training F/T with our VFL team (but also the AFL squad as well).
Scratch matches only for the year…
Where’s Cody?
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