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JustOneTime
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You cant outplay a player.
No one noticed when Weitering got taken away from the contest that McGovern sat in the pocket leaving the undersized Kemp isolated time and time again as our 3rd defensive tall.
Conditional with a capital c. You want him rewarded - that type of culture is what kills Carlton.
Of course he will try when it suits him. He will ghost after that period of time. And if he does put in a huge season which is possible it would be the basis of a move elsewhere.
He had a good stretch as a defensive forward with high tackle count.
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I hate to be brutal but primarily because he is a terrible kick. The club (rightly or wrongly) believe that he is not going to make it as an AFL footballer and with list spots at a premium have elected to keep others before him. And also they believe that Lucas Camporeale and Chesser are a better chance to hold down the wing position in the long term. And we have some salary cap relief that we can use to pay for it.
Expecting a political style timing for Elijah.
4-5.00pm Friday.
Maybe with a White signing to mask.
4-5.00pm Friday.
Maybe with a White signing to mask.
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Very lucky to imo.
Luckily, wright has come in and already put a big print on straightening it all out and giving Austin some pointers on how it’s all done.
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Clearly you are. Need 4 open primary list spots.
At the moment we only have 3 with binns being cut
Wright has said it will take him 2 years to get list balance right. No doubt they wanted Khamis to replace him.
I assume he is now on one year deal at minimum cost. At 30 he could play for another 3-4 years. He just needs to be on tight leash and adhere to standards that are hopefully being set
If (and it’s a big if) he can play to his ability he is a very good player. Maybe this is the shake up he needs?
I still believe we need another KPD though
I would have rather cut Fog.
Think Binns has the improvement & we haven’t seen the best of him, hoping he gets on a list & shows he can play.
Fog, we’ve seen what he can do & he’s now so far down the pecking order it’s ridiculous.
We’ve seen his ceiling and it’s not high, if we see he named in the team this year something has gone horribly wrong &/or Voss is back to having NFI about how we should play.
I think Wright saw support by Lloyd as poor. Lloyd would have had to sign off on all contracts etc
Bit like Voss. Didn’t have support so being given a chance under new direction
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Binns can run but not sure what else he brings....need to move past vanilla Binns types to move forward, Chesser is an immediate upgrade
Blues trash Binns. 
Blues & Jaxon Binns have parted ways.
Blues & Jaxon Binns have parted ways.
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Stoked we kept Flynn on, I think there's real potential there.
Nice kid. Good footballer but small with average disposal. Really doesn’t have any weapons and we have Chesser Acres Ollie Florent Walsh Ison Wilson Lucas Flynn Cottrell that can all play that role.
List balance is very important
Jeez the knives are out for Gov, if we are fit & structured well the bloke can play.
When we fall down he looks shit, when we are solid he can be a damaging player.
He’s a hell of a field kick and can open up space & solid mark (apart from the occasional WTF fumble)
Seems to me that he’s getting scape goated & blamed when it’s the lack of run, spread & coverage in the back line.
When our mids aren’t gassed and getting sucked way to deep ie we have some structure, there’s no issue with him.
Gov isn’t the problem, he’s actually a weapon if structure & play a free flowing game style.
It’s the same with Saad, we don’t use him to his strengths then call him a liability.
The issues all stem further up the ground, you can’t blame defenders when the mid pressure is shit or when there’s no movement or leads coming further up the ground.
If we actually learn to manage our players & evolve to something that resembles a modern game style someone like Gov becomes an actual asset.
By all reports he’s busting his ass to be fit, let’s hope we use & manage him well.
When we fall down he looks shit, when we are solid he can be a damaging player.
He’s a hell of a field kick and can open up space & solid mark (apart from the occasional WTF fumble)
Seems to me that he’s getting scape goated & blamed when it’s the lack of run, spread & coverage in the back line.
When our mids aren’t gassed and getting sucked way to deep ie we have some structure, there’s no issue with him.
Gov isn’t the problem, he’s actually a weapon if structure & play a free flowing game style.
It’s the same with Saad, we don’t use him to his strengths then call him a liability.
The issues all stem further up the ground, you can’t blame defenders when the mid pressure is shit or when there’s no movement or leads coming further up the ground.
If we actually learn to manage our players & evolve to something that resembles a modern game style someone like Gov becomes an actual asset.
By all reports he’s busting his ass to be fit, let’s hope we use & manage him well.
Sorry Harry but disagree. He is lazy and conditional. Been on big money and hasn’t stood up when needed
Ability wise he has it all but McGovern is a classic example of why we have been poor for so long. The fact we offered him free to anyone and no one took him up says it all to me
I’ve already answered this multiple times. Can you really not count into the 40s, or are you trolling?
After this post I’m going to assume the latter.
We currently have 2 list spots with Binns cut.
Lij would make 3.
And we can open another Senior list spot by cutting the uncontracted Rookie White.
Yep, he can be, he does also go beast mode occasionally (to rarely) & savages the pack & chase people down/crunches tackles.
He needs positive attitude around him to be at his best, soon as we drop our heads his drops lower than most
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Just counted everyone. By my calculations we have 2 spots at the moment.
if we remove Elijah and White we will have 4 spots available which is my expectations
Only question is then do we need one more?
I don’t disagree, I do wonder if management & competition for his spot will actually keep him more engaged & locked into providing a constant effort
You just summed up the issue. I am tired of it being someone else’s fault.
He took the big money and then turned up overweight. Not good enough
As a 30 year old with nearly 150 games when things get tough you stand up. Simple. Anything else is a weak excuse
I don’t disagree, I do wonder if management & competition for his spot will actually keep him more engaged & locked into providing a constant effort
That’s the hope
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No one really gets 1-year deals unless you're over 30, you have massive injury history or your career is hanging by a thread.
If you are best 30 or so and playing some senior games, you're getting a two-year extension.
Sometimes this will come back to bite you. Cost of doing business.
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Wonder if this is motivated by having 54 as a live pick for points?
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