List Mgmt. 2025 List Management

[serial_thrilla]

 

[freo84]

(GW) Sydney won’t know what hit it with Oliver, stringer and hogan together.

 

[2big2strom]

was kinda hoping I just fever dreamt the past 50 pages

 

[Dayts]

David Walls >>> Nico Harrison

 

[Lach72]

 

[go_the_dockers]

 

[Cobbler]

Well I’ve had a good sleep. Cup of coffee.

Now that I’m rested.

I stil think…

What the hell are we doing!?

 

[freo84]

Theres still time for Walls to get more done. This may look bad now but imagine how much worse it could get? Shiiiit we could downgrade 19 for Simpkin!

 

[swanny1234]

Walls shouldn’t get involved until draft week.
Need someone else doing the trade side of things.

 

[Tonga Bob]

Theres still time for Walls to get more done. This may look bad now but imagine how much worse it could get? Shiiiit we could downgrade 19 for Simpkin!

Where's this Simpkin stuff coming from?

 

[go_the_dockers]

Haha Lach72

 

[go_the_dockers]

Where's this Simpkin stuff coming from?

He has half asked for a trade, so people are talking about him.

No link to freo.

 

[serial_thrilla]

Walls shouldn’t get involved until draft week.
Need someone else doing the trade side of things.

Somehow, Peter Bell returned

 

[CaseySibosadoHOF]

Where's this Simpkin stuff coming from?

Him and Caleb followed each other on instagram relatively recently. Fwiw, Caleb also recently followed McVee. Could be adding 2 and 2 and getting 4 or getting 65.

 

[Wee Jessies]

If we had downgraded 33 to get 37 instead of 44 to get 46 would that have made the trade more ok?

 

[Hazelsnuts]

Ok all you ‘chicken littles’ out there…

With such a piss poor draft where the quality has evaporated in the top 5 picks and add the academies and fs’s - throwing late shit picks isn’t the end of the world.

All of the clubs looking to acknowledge that the late second rounder picks and potential draftees and onwards have f... all value.
Players we have on the list already like Murph, Simpson and Nicholls and playing 3 years before a shiny new toy that is big average. Develop what we have and don’t go speculating on crappola.

I may be wrong, but essentially what we are saying by doing that trade is that we rate McVee as a now pick and he has way more value than any player outside of top 10.
Ironically a half back flanker.

Biggest issue I see moving forward is our talent development- players like McVee and Humphries getting developed at other clubs…
Taken from right under both WA clubs noses.

 

[pK75]

If we had downgraded 33 to get 37 instead of 44 to get 46 would that have made the trade more ok?

Better, but we also threw in 50 for nothing as well.

 

[Taylor]

Ok all you ‘chicken littles’ out there…

With such a piss poor draft where the quality has evaporated in the top 5 picks and add the academies and fs’s - throwing late shit picks isn’t the end of the world.

All of the clubs looking to acknowledge that the late second rounder picks and potential draftees and onwards have f... all value.
Players we have on the list already like Murph, Simpson and Nicholls and playing 3 years before a shiny new toy that is big average. Develop what we have and don’t go speculating on crappola.

I may be wrong, but essentially what we are saying by doing that trade is that we rate McVee as a now pick and he has way more value than any player outside of top 10.
Ironically a half back flanker.

Biggest issue I see moving forward is our talent development- players like McVee and Humphries getting developed at other clubs…
Taken from right under both WA clubs noses.

Freo is objectively in the window. We need players to impact. The likelihood of a player coming into the team from outside the first round is not high at all, let alone deep in the second round - and not in a shallow draft.

But I look forward to the rookie or pick 50 we take this year being a pivotal player for us in 2026 just to shove it right up me.

 

[Heave Ho Bro]

Is this for real? Did the big fella trade those extra picks for a sandwich?

 

[2big2strom]

If we had downgraded 33 to get 37 instead of 44 to get 46 would that have made the trade more ok?

it would take the trade from bad to okay. but it would only be okay on the premise we don't lose out, it shouldn't be a good enough incentive for helping two other clubs game the system. if we went 33>37 and 50>46 it starts to look better...

 

[pK75]

Taking solace in the fact that the trade hasn’t appeared on the trade tracker yet, maybe the AFL has reminded all parties we cannot trade 19 + extras back to Brisbane on draft night for pick 16 as that’s not allowed

 

[s_wd6]

The worst part about all this is that I have nothing to look forward to/melt over for the rest of the trade period now

 

[Stinky Lomax]

The worst part about all this is that I have nothing to look forward to/melt over for the rest of the trade period now

Famous last words.

 

[wahooo]

Ok all you ‘chicken littles’ out there…

With such a piss poor draft where the quality has evaporated in the top 5 picks and add the academies and fs’s - throwing late shit picks isn’t the end of the world.

You're right, throwing 'shit late picks' away isn't the end of the world. However, throwing away picks, when multiple teams are chasing points to match academy players is dumb. Many clubs are chasing points this year and we could have and should have extracted some value for that.

I guarantee you a club chasing points wouldn't have traded pick 12 away for less points than it's worth.


Also, the pick we threw away was our second rounder, since when did that become a shit late pick? Many were arguing it and a shit late pick would be enough for Judd McVee.

All of the clubs looking to acknowledge that the late second rounder picks and potential draftees and onwards have f... all value.
Players we have on the list already like Murph, Simpson and Nicholls and playing 3 years before a shiny new toy that is big average. Develop what we have and don’t go speculating on crappola.

I may be wrong, but essentially what we are saying by doing that trade is that we rate McVee as a now pick and he has way more value than any player outside of top 10.
Ironically a half back flanker.

Biggest issue I see moving forward is our talent development- players like McVee and Humphries getting developed at other clubs…
Taken from right under both WA clubs noses.

We can acknoweldge the draft is weak whilst extracting full value from our picks, those two things are not mutually exclusive.

 

[Jezzitizle]

That’s like buying a house in an up and coming suburb that you think is going to have much higher growth in house price value than average over the coming years.
But then paying an extra few hundred thousand dollars up front, over and above market value at the time of sale and then turning around a few years later and saying “look I was right! What great foresight by me”. You still unnecessarily gave more value than you should have to the original seller, for no material reason.

For me in the AFL you can only evaluate trades on the day of the trade. everyone is betting on future performance. No one know what will happen in future.

For example, if collingwood traded Nick Daicos for pick 50 tomorrow and he went on to play only 15 more AFL games because he did his ACL 3 or 4 times, or went off the rails like JUH, they’d look like geniuses in 5 years time.
It’s doesn’t change the fact that it’s still a bad trade by Collingwood because all the info to hand, right here right now indicates he is worth 3 first round picks at least.

Not a great analogy, not a similar market.

A better one may be EPL clubs buying and selling youth team players - which is based mostly on their projected potential.

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

Me waking up: "people are right, the trade made no actual sense, im sure Cal has now revised the trade"

Cal: " The deal is the same and their is something for everyone. Freo turn 12 into 19 and McVee"