List Mgmt. 2025 List Management

[serial_thrilla]

 

[Purple Suit]

gonna sleep soundly tonight laughing about how hawks chased H.Reid, Trac and ZM so hard and fumbled on all three, such a shame...

They did it all publicly too. Must be very embarrassing for them.

 

[Lach72]

The Merrett chase probably cost them Worpel too

Worpel is not a Mitchell type player. More blunt object than stiletto

 

[Eski3]

Worpel is not a Mitchell type player. More blunt object than stiletto

Still handy centre bounce depth - they lost him and didn't replace him with anyone. They're already a bit thin on the ground for inside mids

 

[Lach72]

The other thing in the Merrett stuff is it’ll take a couple more of these and we may see a swing back to 3 year deals…once Tassie has passed through the system

 

[Docker82]

Yeah, I’d say bottom 3 for them this year and when butters goes, they’ll hit rock bottom

Which two out of West Coast, Richmond, North and Essendon do you have them finishing below?

Personally think Port will be in the next group of teams up and they'll be a big gap between the top groups.

 

[sumavich]

Meh, pass for Freo. Don't really see McVee being the unicorn to take us to a flag.
No offence to Judd, he's a good player.
Happy to have him, but the oppo got stronger, and we've got a little bit better.
Reckon Walls gets the Kool Aid treatment around here, if he was that good, we'd have a flag by now

 

[s_wd6]

Each finals teams significant ins and outs excluding the draft

Adelaide
In: Ah Chee
Out: -

Brisbane
In: Allen, Draper
Out: Starcevich, OMac, Ah Chee

Collingwood
In: Buller
Out: Mihocek

Fremantle
In: McVee
Out: -

Geelong
In: Worpel
Out: -

Gold Coast
In: Trac, JUH
Out: Flanders, Ainsworth, Fiorini, Budarick

GWS
In: Oliver
Out: -

Hawthorn
In: -
Out: Worpel, Jiath

+ Sydney
In: Curnow, Serong, Rosa
Out: Florent, Hayward

I think people going all doom and gloom about other teams improving are seeing what they want to see. Gold Coast will be dangerous with Trac and JUH if they can get him right. Lost plenty of guys who played 20+ games this season but also getting two top 5 gifts to make up for it. They're the ones that I think will really improve after this trade perieod but that's almost entirely from AFL handouts.

A lot has been said about Brisbane getting better but they've lost two dual premiership players and their premiership ruck. In terms of ins/outs I think they're pretty neutral. Of course with another gifted top 5 pick from the AFL.

Sydney adressed a major need with Curnow an were good with a healthy list last year so they'll improve too.

Collingwood and Hawthorn are worse off after than before. And I'd say Geelong, GWS, Adelaide and Freo are marginally better - adding a b22 player and losing no one of note.

 

[Lach72]

Which two out of West Coast, Richmond, North and Essendon do you have them finishing below?

Personally think Port will be in the next group of teams up and they'll be a big gap between the top groups.

All except West Coast, maybe Essendon

 

[Purple Jesus]

Collingwood and Hawthorn are worse off after than before. And I'd say Geelong, GWS, Adelaide and Freo are marginally better - adding a b22 player and losing no one of note.

Great breakdown.

I think with this part, and all other things being equal, Freo and Adelaide's list profile demographically will see the biggest improvements. I'd argue Freo would have the most improvement. Geelong could even decline. They won't have Danger able to do Danger things again as much next year I don't reckon. GWS with Clarry is an interesting proposition. Gold Coast peaking might **** us completely during our window, hopefully it's a long one and hopefully their list unbalances enough to make enough of a difference. 2026 should be interesting either way.

 

[s_wd6]

Great breakdown.

I think with this part, and all other things being equal, Freo and Adelaide's list profile demographically will see the biggest improvements. I'd argue Freo would have the most improvement. Geelong could even decline. They won't have Danger able to do Danger things again as much next year I don't reckon. GWS with Clarry is an interesting proposition. Gold Coast peaking might **** us completely during our window, hopefully it's a long one and hopefully their list unbalances enough to make enough of a difference. 2026 should be interesting either way.

I do think Gold Coasts list is due to be unbalanced with all the Academy players. Feel obliged to bring them in but in doing so pushing out a lot of their best 22 players. Four this year. Humphreys really wants out. I imagine there will be more to come.

 

[Docker82]

I do think Gold Coasts list is due to be unbalanced with all the Academy players. Feel obliged to bring them in but in doing so pushing out a lot of their best 22 players. Four this year. Humphreys really wants out. I imagine there will be more to come.

Possibly got to strike in the next two years IMO if we don't want Gold Coast to be a major threat.

Like you said I think they've cut a few too many best 23 players and even a medium sized injury list will see the readiness of what's of the park decrease significantly.

 

[pK75]

Has King signed a new contract or still a free agent next year? Feel like the JUH gamble may be because King is already fielding offers.

 

[Alfonz]

Has King signed a new contract or still a free agent next year? Feel like the JUH gamble may be because King is already fielding offers.

Free agent. Clubs will go hard at him.

Humphries is as good as gone. Hope it isn't Hawthorn. They've got Weddle and Dear coming out of contract end of 2026, then Day RFA end of 2027, so hopefully monster offers come and Hawks have their hands full and can't bring anyone else in.

Rogers and Walter were agitating and I reckon one or both leave if they stay on the outer. Both out of contract end of 2026.

Witts will be finished soon and they have no replacement coming through (I don't really rate Read as a ruckman). Also an UFA end of 2026 if a team wants to poach him for a few more years.

Collins 32 next year and again they have no replacement coming through.

Rowell and Anderson both RFA end of 2027. Clubs will come extremely hard.

GC might have all these academy players coming through, but I think they have a very narrow window in my opinion. Can see why they've gone all in on Petracca. I reckon its just 2026 and 2027 and then there is a very good chance they are gutted and back to square one.

 

[FreoRicci]

Absolutely hilarious watching the Carlton board melt that they got bent over before the actual deal was announced.

That’s massive over

They load up essentially on the wrong players they need.
McKay goes down, which likely happens, they’re absolutely cooked.
Losing TDK and Curnow is significant tall stocks. There’s no replacements at all developing.

Sure, Hayward is a decent forward and Florent is hardworker. But Cerra is literally the same player.

Blues in for short term pain

 

[FreoRicci]

Has King signed a new contract or still a free agent next year? Feel like the JUH gamble may be because King is already fielding offers.

Whatever happened to Walter? That guy is going to be special too.
He didn’t play second half of the season and the final- chose Ethan Read instead. He’s pretty meh.

 

[FreoRicci]

Free agent. Clubs will go hard at him.

Humphries is as good as gone. Hope it isn't Hawthorn. They've got Weddle and Dear coming out of contract end of 2026, then Day RFA end of 2027, so hopefully monster offers come and Hawks have their hands full and can't bring anyone else in.

Rogers and Walter were agitating and I reckon one or both leave if they stay on the outer. Both out of contract end of 2026.

Witts will be finished soon and they have no replacement coming through (I don't really rate Read as a ruckman). Also an UFA end of 2026 if a team wants to poach him for a few more years.

Collins 32 next year and again they have no replacement coming through.

Rowell and Anderson both RFA end of 2027. Clubs will come extremely hard.

GC might have all these academy players coming through, but I think they have a very narrow window in my opinion. Can see why they've gone all in on Petracca. I reckon its just 2026 and 2027 and then there is a very good chance they are gutted and back to square one.

Don’t see where Petracca fits tbh. Davies is their defensive stopper for Rowell and Anderson. He’s their version of Dunkley. It works.
Petracca isn’t a defensive mid at all. They’ll suffer the other way having offensive minded talent in those 3.

 

[blue shark]

Free agent. Clubs will go hard at him.

Humphries is as good as gone. Hope it isn't Hawthorn. They've got Weddle and Dear coming out of contract end of 2026, then Day RFA end of 2027, so hopefully monster offers come and Hawks have their hands full and can't bring anyone else in.

Rogers and Walter were agitating and I reckon one or both leave if they stay on the outer. Both out of contract end of 2026.

Witts will be finished soon and they have no replacement coming through (I don't really rate Read as a ruckman). Also an UFA end of 2026 if a team wants to poach him for a few more years.

Collins 32 next year and again they have no replacement coming through.

Rowell and Anderson both RFA end of 2027. Clubs will come extremely hard.

GC might have all these academy players coming through, but I think they have a very narrow window in my opinion. Can see why they've gone all in on Petracca. I reckon its just 2026 and 2027 and then there is a very good chance they are gutted and back to square one.

They just got a former number 1 draft pick in JUH.
If that kid decides to play, and gets good delivery will be a nightmare with King.

 

[Superkoops]

Going for Warner in contract looks like a no go now. Will have to wait until end of 2027, and even then because of the Tassie bullshit we may not have enough.

These deals were horseshit.

Just thinking what we got for Lachie Neale in this new context makes my head spin around like Linda Blair

Warner is Free agent

 

[freo_leo29]

Logan McDonald is probably at the pies within 3 years

Pies supporter growing up and they've had interest in the past

 

[FreoRicci]

Logan McDonald is probably at the pies within 3 years

Pies supporter growing up and they've had interest in the past

They won’t be top for long. McDonald will attract top picks.

 

[88mph]

They just got a former number 1 draft pick in JUH.
If that kid decides to play, and gets good delivery will be a nightmare with King.

With pick 73 too.

Who said our pick ~30 was worthless

 

[wakojako]

Warner is Free agent

He's a restricted FA. Sydney will match our offer and force a trade. It will be digustingly expensive and we may need to trade out a player.

 

[E Shed]

Meh, pass for Freo. Don't really see McVee being the unicorn to take us to a flag.
No offence to Judd, he's a good player.
Happy to have him, but the oppo got stronger, and we've got a little bit better.
Reckon Walls gets the Kool Aid treatment around here, if he was that good, we'd have a flag by now

Give us a free swing at the Daicos or Ashcroft boys and we would.
It’s not a level playing field.

 

[guidodp15]

Meh, pass for Freo. Don't really see McVee being the unicorn to take us to a flag.
No offence to Judd, he's a good player.
Happy to have him, but the oppo got stronger, and we've got a little bit better.
Reckon Walls gets the Kool Aid treatment around here, if he was that good, we'd have a flag by now

You don't get it, we don't need a top 5 player in Mcvee he just needs to be better in the botoom 6 players on match day that we currently have. That is what lets us down

They won’t be top for long. McDonald will attract top picks.

Mcdonald was genuinely considering coming home before he signed his last extension (this came from his family ) it didn't happen mostly due to us.

 

[Lach72]

Warner is Free agent

Will he be unrestricted?